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He is wrong. You need a plate that is held on by the lugnuts, like you are talking about. But, if you've got wheels with the three metal fingers that hold the dog dish hubcaps one, they will also hold the wires. That's what I did on my '52. But maybe they did away with those fingers for '53.
Paul
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My '63 parts book shows that they used the same front cover gasket from '49 thru '62. GM#560003. Maybe they can cross reference it.
Paul
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That engine is from a '50.
'49 numbers ran from 8A1001 to 8A193864.
'50 numbers ran from 8A194001 to 8A568689. H means it was a Hydra-Matic car.
'51 numbers started with 8C.
Paul
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I've scanned them. Need an address.
Paul
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I've got a list in my showroom album of recommended combinations, and believe they were available with either color on the front or the back. As for non-recommended, I guess if you paid your money up front, they'd probably do whatever you wanted. I was at a show last weekend where they had a '55 88 2door sedan in yellow/brown with a green interior, and we've had another '55 88 2door sedan at our own shows in beige/red with a green interior. I've seen both a '53 Super 88 Holiday and a '54 98 Holiday in red/white with blue/white interior.
And then there's this '58 98 sedan in Rose Mist with green interior!:
http://www.angelfire.com/mb2/olds98/
I don't know what they were thinking when they ordered it, but it can be yours for $60,000...
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Factory tri-power was only available mid-way through '57 and '58, and they were 371 motors. I've been told you can't put a J2 on the newer 394s, but I don't know if you can put it on the older 324s and 303s. I'm guessing not. Maybe you've got a 324 with an aftermarket tri-power setup. There should be numbers on that motor somewhere, but without a book in front of me I can't tell you where to look.
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GM #9835145. Disc. 7-96. I had no luck locating one.
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N is for air conditioning. K7 is chrome door window frames.
At least that's what they were in '62. I believe they used those codes for many years.
Paul
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My '63 parts book only goes back to '41. It's says a '41 3600 series is a 76 or 78 model. Body style 11 is a 2-door sedan. So I'm guessing these parts are off of a 70 2-door. Grille parts probably interchange between all '40 models.
Paul
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Riddle me this, Batman...
A friend and I are having a discussion regarding early '60s VIN number sequences.
He's got a '62 Starfire with VIN 626Cxxxxx (a Southgate car). He spotted a Starfire on eBay the other day and said to me, "This car is 38 Starfires away from mine." I asked him how he knew that, because there was no Fisher Body tag shown in the photos to show the body number. He said he was going by the VIN. I said that I thought there were 38 other Oldsmobiles between the two cars, not 38 Starfires.
He thought that VINs run in series:
622C01001 thru 622Cxxxxx for Dynamic 88s
624C01001 thru 624Cxxxxx for Super 88s
626C01001 thru 626Cxxxxx for Starfires
628C01001 thru 628Cxxxxx for 98s
So, you could (and would) have, say, 622C12345, 624C12345, 626C12345 and 628C12345.
I thought VINs ran consecutive for the whole line:
62*C01001 through 62*Cxxxxx (* being the code for model, which we don't know)
So no 2 cars would have the same last 5 digits.
Then he pointed out something else - A Lansing built Dynamic 88 on eBay right now. VIN is something like 622M55xxx. I looked at the VIN of my own Starfire, also a Lansing built car, and built very late in June of '62 as evidenced by the build date on the body tag, presence of an alternator, and bead molding on the side panels (so it's not a June '61 car). My very late car has a VIN of 626M15xxx, yet that Dynamic is 622M55xxx. Stands to reason that they built more D88s than Starfires.
So they must have used 4 sets of VINs at each plant, different only by the model designation, and had multiple VINs that used the same last 5?
I didn't think they would do something like that.
Thoughts, comments...
Paul
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Don't have them, but here's a hint - if you can find a full length panel out of a non-8 track car, just cut it to fit. That's what the factory did.
Paul
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Well, water inside the car is not good. I thought the evaporator case had a rubber bulb thing on the bottom where the water drained out. There's a slit in it that lets the water out. Sometimes that slit gets slimy and kinda seals itself up. Here's a scan of the '72 Buick parts book. Your 88 should be very similar.
Paul
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Steve,
You're talking about the drain tube? On my '62 the drain tube is attached directly to the core which is tucked down into the kick panel area of the cowl. The tube is not accessible unless the core is removed. Seems to me yours should be right on the bottom of the evaporation case. How big of a hole are you talking about?
What leads you to believe it's plugged? No water dripping? No cooling?
Paul
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My book does not show a 4-speed on the '64 Jetstar I. They show a column mounted 3-speed as standard and Hydra-Matic as optional. But they do show a 4-speed as available in the Jetstar 88 (as well as Cutlasses & F-85s), The key there is that these models only used the 330 engines, not the 394s. 4-speeds only started appearing in Starfires and Jetstar I's in '65. I know Glenn will tell me never to say never, but '62 thru '64 Starfires and Jetstar I's didn't come through as 4-speeds. I think it had something to do with the lack of a separate bell housing, which is why we can't readily convert from Slim Jims to THMs like the Pontiac guys can.
Paul
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So it looks like this...
That darn Glenn, he's always right.
But that's not the part number I get for that part.
Paul
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I thought of that, too. '69 3500, 3600, 4200 exc. SW & VC is an 8700933. Not close. I'm thinking '67 Delta. They had a panel like that, too. Only Delta, not Delmonts and not Delta Customs. No emblem arount the keyhole. Coupe was different from sedan/convertible. But part #s were 4229960/1. Still not close.
I dunno.
A picture would help.
Paul
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">is this car worth 22k???</div></div>
Looking like that under the hood? I don't think so. I could be wrong...
Paul
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#5 looks like '51 Olds Super 88. Maybe 98, but should be larger for 98. Might be '52, but I don't think so. I know it seems to go with #4, but I can't place it. Do these items have numbers cast into them?
That last thing... DeSoto?
Paul
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Yes, they do. Group 7.832, part #230407.
Paul
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OK, here's the deal. Trunk moldings like you describe are in group 12.182. In my '66-'68 book, 7799208 is not listed. '68 molding numbers in this group are in the 7795*** range. '66 & '67s seem to run in the 4229*** range. I checked my GM computer for history and it says that 7799208 was discontinued 12/83. Easy enough, as my pre-'75 book was printed in 4/83. But there is no 7799208 in the 12.182 group in that catalog, either. This book lists '69 and newer numbers in the 8700*** to 8704*** range.
So, I think we either have something that isn't '68, isn't for the trunk lid area, or isn't for an Oldsmobile. Unfortunately GM will only give me history and won't provide me with application or group information.
Paul
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They might call it a channel or a sweeper.
Here's what you should do. Email Dave Jackson at Fusick's directly at dj442c@ix.netcom.com. Tell him exactly what you told us, but don't send the picture. Ask him if you can send him a picture and see what he says. I've sent pictures to their general email account in the past and they don't like that. But if you email Dave and ask first you shouldn't have a problem.
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I'll try to look in my parts book at work on Monday, but without a group number it's gonna be tough.
Paul
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Is this a design change from '61/'62? I don't recall having problems with the pulley when changing water pumps on my '62s.
Paul
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I checked autocolorlibrary.com. Looks like Olds paint codes were only 3 digits, and in the 122-131 range. Pontiac used 4 digits in the 2200s, but not 2221. Ditzler codes were in the 1700s. So I'm at a loss. Trim code could be 3, as I'm sure they didn't have many trim variations.
Paul
Is it a REAL 65 442?
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I think a '65 442 would have a 5V in the accessory section of the data plate.