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'57 Super 88 Holiday Coupe production was 31,155.
Paul
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Aren't the triple stripes available from Coker?
Paul
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Rather than me listing everything, how 'bout if you tell me what you need.
Paul
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sunvisor - called a Cadet Visor, code J. Was shipped loose with the car, not installed, and required painting. Considered a dealer installed accessory.
steering wheel clock - called the Oldsmobile Self-Winding Car Watch, code M2. Required de luxe steering wheel and horn ring, code H, which was standard on the 98s. This option only shows in my literature for '52, but I have seen where it was available in late '51.
compass - code U. Same as the clock regarding late '51 availability. Was not available on 98s unless M2 was ordered.
floor mats - not shown as an accessory until '53, and then only as dealer installed. Available in black, red, gray, blue and green. Had to be purchased in sets of 6 (of each color). The first mention I see of factory equipment mats is '58.
fog lights - called Fog and Driving Lamps. Considered a dealer installed accessory, no code.
Since you've made me dig out my '51 stuff, I've scanned the bill of sale for my great uncle Homer's '51 98 sedan. It was Sand Beige over Palm Green. Looks like he bought it as a leftover. He only had it until July 2, 1952 when he traded it for a Pearl Gray '52 Super 88 2door sedan. Relatives have told me that one of these cars was wrecked. I suspect it was the '51 due to the short ownership period. The '52 was kept until June of '53 and was traded for an Artic White '53 98 convertible - maybe to one-up great uncle Lee, who purchased an Agate Red '53 Super 88 convertible about a week prior. Homer passed away in October of '53 at the age of 25. His 23 year old widow, great aunt Helen, kept the '53 98 until the spring of '54 when she traded it for a Glade Green over Maize Yellow '54 Super 88 Holiday coupe. Great uncle Lee also bought a '54 S88 Holiday - 2-tone blue. They must have ordered these cars, and at the same time. These two cars had consecutive Fisher Body numbers and the Oldsmobile serial numbers were only 3 or 4 apart. Helen's 88 was kept until 1960 when it was traded for a new Falcon. Lee's 88 lasted until '56 when it and the '53 88 convertible became part of the trade deal on a new Bel Air 4-door hardtop AND a new pink and black '56 Sedan deVille. 30 years after the fact, I would end up working for the dealership where all those Oldsmobiles were sold.
Paul
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I have all of that at home. I'll try and remember to check it tonight. But something tells me floor mats weren't available in '51.
Paul
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The block # is I 105746
The head # is ER 12743</div></div>
I don't have all of my engine information near me, but I think '62 215 engine numbers start with an S.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Vin tag 621C11431</div></div>
62 is for 1962 model year
1 is for F-85 Deluxe series
C is for the South Gate, California assembly plant
11431 is the production sequence
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The data plate has:
62-3167 Body BC 1133</div></div>
62 is for 1962 model year
3 is for Oldsmobile
1 is for F-85 Deluxe series
67 is for convertible body style
BC is for the South Gate, California Fisher Body Plant
1133 means it was the 1,133rd F-85 Deluxe Convertible body built at that plant
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Trim 995 Top 1</div></div>
995 is for Dark Red interior trim
1 is for White convertible top
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Paint CC</div></div>
CC is for Provincial White body and wheels
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Acc LF -J8</div></div>
L is for power brakes
F is for backup lights
J8 is for front compartment console
All that information came from my website:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/oldsfan/MySite/62oldspage.html
Paul
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I've got the "Standard Catalog of Oldsmobile" out, and it must be wrong...
Sez '55 engines are numbered from V400001 to V983275
and that '56 engines are numbered A001001 through A385513
But it also sez that '57s were numbered A001001 and up, and I can't believe '56 and '57 would use the same numbering system.
Paul
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Shop manual sez:
Remove R.H. molding
Remove 2 screws attaching clock
Reach up through opening in top of glove box and lower clock into glove box
Disconnect wiring from clock and remove
I already know what you're going to ask...
To remove the R.H molding:
Center right and left air deflectors, then remove the two attaching screws through the louvers in the deflectors.
Grasp molding on inboard side of louvers and pull outward to disengage studs from retaining clips
If Comfortron equipped, before completely removing molding disconnect in-car sensor and aspirator hose at molding
Paul
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I am directing this mainly at rocketraider, who seems pretty knowledgable on data plates (with their little punched-out stars and such...), but someone else may know, too.
Got a call today from a fella with what sounds like a real nice '67 Supreme coupe. 60k miles. Triple black. A/C. Power windows. Needs an engine rebuild. He wants to decode all kinds of numbers to see how nuts he wants to get.
There is an "E" on the right side of the data plate, on the same line as the build date. Any ideas what that is for? This is a Framingham built car.
Also, there is a C on the end of the trim code - 980-C. What's the C for? My '83 parts book shows letters, but no C. There is an A for conventional bench seat (as opposed to Strato-bench). I'm thinking maybe they used a C for conventional instead of an A?
Paul
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A dealer invoice from the factory to the dealer, or from the dealer to the retail customer? I have one from the dealer to a retail customer - what I would call a bill of sale.
Paul
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That is the hydro-electric motor for the power windows/seat/convertible top.
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Yup, those are the wheels. I think yours is only second one I've seen with them. "Our" car had whitewalls. Wish I knew where it was at.
Paul
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">do you know where i can get a new gasket for my moonroof? it's starting to leak <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> </div></div>
Still available from GM. Part number 20062590. Sells for around $110. Plenty of stock available.
Paul
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I forwarded this to a buddy of mine who does not frequent these forums. He would like to see pictures.
Paul
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1988 Cutlass Supreme Classic and Classic Brougham production was combined at 27.678. In 1987 these models were broken out separately and Brougham production was about 40%. I do not believe the Broughams were available with buckets.
I remember 2 '87s that we had on the lot at the time. One was a "light red" coupe. That one was stolen - twice. And there was a silver over black coupe that a co-workers mother bought.
We got in an '88 that was one of the sharpest cars I've ever seen. It was white with a maroon landau top and maroon bucket interior. It had crosslace aluminum wheels on it. I beleive they were pretty rare, not as common as the super stock wheels or wire wheel covers that most of them had. We sold that car to a local doctor and he used it sparingly. I kept my eye on that car for years, wanting to buy it when trade-in time came. Finally, late in 1991, that day came, and that car was re-sold and delivered within an hour of being traded. I never had a chance. And I lost track of it. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
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You're talking about a rwd Supreme Classic? They are scarce. We didn't get many of them in when they were new. They were only in production for a few months, then production switched over to the fwd platform. I probably have production numbers at home.
Paul
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In regards to standard steel wheels:
'41 thru '56 cars used a 15" x 5.5" wheel (except for some pre-war cars which had 15" wheels). These wheels used what the parts book calls a "snap in type" hub cap retainer (3 per wheel). This retainer was also used on the 14" x 6" wheels shared by '57s and '58s, which are a different part number than the 14" x 6" wheels used from '59 thru '62 (which have the nubs that you referred to previously). That snap-in-type retainer was also used for optional 15" x 6" wheels available on '62s and '63s. So, nubs and no slots = '59 or newer wheel (except 15"). Slots or presence of snap in retainers = '58 or prior wheel (or '62-'63 15" wheel). Now, if a car came from the factory with, say, deluxe spinner wheel covers, those snap-in-type retrainers would not have been required (and in fact may have been in the way) and may not have even been installed. Everybody clear on that?
Now, Glenn, I am aware of the availability of those aluminum wheel covers, but don't know much about them. I've seen them but never looked at them closely. I always thought they were held to the wheel with the lug nuts (like earlier Mimetic wire hubcaps) and that the difference in wheel usage was to allow far a deeper rim for the cap to ride in. So I guess I learned something new today.
Paul
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Paul?</div></div>
Yes?????
My parts book sez all 15 inch Olds rims are the same from '41 thru '56. And the '52 that I had had the 3 slots with the bolted on clips to hold the dog dishes on.
More than that I'll have to look up.
They went to 14" for '57? Will have to check the application of the clips.
Paul
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As far as I know those 394 adapters work, because it is basically the same block. I have one, but it's not out of the parts car yet.
Paul
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My '63 parts book list one filler pipe o-ring seal - for '56 Model O Hydramatics (2nd type). Same number is also used for '61 thru '63 F-85 Hydramatics. So it looks like your '54 doesn't use one.
Paul
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I'll dig out my old parts book and look into this. I need to check something for Joe anyway...
Paul
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My vote is for '67 or '68 Buick Wildcat.
Paul
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Cruise control was first available on Oldsmobiles in 1962.
But you should check into an Autronic Eye.
Paul
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Must be dealing with a Cutlass of some sort, since we've got SSII wheels...
Four-Season Air Conditioning - C60
Power Side Windows - A31
Deluxe Pushbutton Radio - U63
Power Brakes with Front Disc - JL2
325hp Rocket 400 V-8 Engine - L31, but if you are dealing with a 442 this engine was standard. L31 was only optional on Vista Cruisers.
Turbo Hydra-matic 400 transmission - M40
Strato Bucket Seats - A51, again on a 442 these were standard
Super Stock II wheels - N66
Anti-Spin Rear Axle - G80
3.42 Heavy-Duty High Performance axle - G92, this option was not available with air conditioning
Code for Aztec Gold is J and is found on the data plate.
Interior trim code is also found on the data plate.
Paul