Matt Harwood

Please, do not use private owner names in public forums. The reason people use us to sell their cars is because they value their privacy, and for security reasons we prefer that people don't know where some of these valuable cars might be located. My primary concern is to not inconvenience or disturb my clients or to create security risks for them. This is important. So please, DO NOT name names when you recognize a car. Contact me privately and I'm happy to discuss the current owner (who is indeed a Town & Country expert of note) and his reasons for selling the cars, but naming names is inappropriate. Thanks.

No Full Classic controversy here, just a gorgeous 1949 Chrysler convertible. The Town & Country had a new body in 1949, although the mechanicals were still pretty much the same as 1948. The new body was longer, lower, and wider than the earlier cars with a very different wood pattern. No longer structural, the wood was simply decorative and used Dynoc simulated wood decals in place of the original mahogany panels. But never fear, the owner of this particular convertible understands the appeal of real wood and since today's wood decals don't look particularly convincing, he had real Mahogany panels installed on the body a few years ago. Park this Town & Country next to a standard one, and the difference is shocking. Experts might note that both the deck lid and rear panel should also have woodgrained decals on them, however the owner points to a period T&C ad in the trunk that shows a car in this very color combination without wood on either of those areas, so it's technically correct (which is the best kind of correct). The paint was done a few years ago and still shows well, with great chrome throughout. That's the original yellow leather interior, which should tell you how well preserved this ragtop really is. The hides have been re-dyed to freshen them a bit, but their condition is remarkable for their age. They remain supple and there are no cracks or dry areas, with the back seat looking almost like new. The dash was all-new in 1949, with a central instrument cluster ahead of the driver and a wide band of matching leather that foreshadows the padded dashboards of the future. Everything works, including the radio and power top, and there are new carpets on the floor in the correct material. The trunk is original, with great side panels and original brown sisal carpet. Experts will note that the black canvas top should have a large plastic rear window, but the owner prefers the look of the smaller window and therefore had it made like this. It also originally featured a yellow boot, but he had a black one made at the same time the top was done, which looks fantastic against the black paint. The engine is Chrysler's 323 cubic inch flathead straight-8 connected to a Fluid Drive transmission. With a large collection, including several Town & Country models, the owner admits that this is by far his favorite simply because the controls are light, the engine is powerful, and it's a pleasure to drive. The engine bay is highly original and I'm guessing that it's never been apart. It starts quickly, idles smoothly, and pulls with big torque even in high range. Cruising is effortless at highway speeds, and the suspension soaks up road imperfections without complaint. Newer wide whitewall radials have been fitted to the original wheels, which only improves the handling. It's original underneath, so there's some crustiness, but it's solid and rust-free, perfect for touring without worries. While some may argue that the non-Classic status hurts values, I'd argue that this car is far more handsome than the earlier cars and drives superbly. It's also less expensive, yet ready to tour this summer. Asking $99,900 and we'll happily entertain reasonable offers. Thanks for reading!

No Full Classic controversy here, just a gorgeous 1949 Chrysler convertible. The Town & Country had a new body in 1949, although the mechanicals were still pretty much the same as 1948. The new body was longer, lower, and wider than the earlier cars with a very different wood pattern. No longer structural, the wood was simply decorative and used Dynoc simulated wood decals in place of the original mahogany panels. But never fear, the owner of this particular convertible understands the appeal of real wood and since today's wood decals don't look particularly convincing, he had real Mahogany panels installed on the body a few years ago. Park this Town & Country next to a standard one, and the difference is shocking. Experts might note that both the deck lid and rear panel should also have woodgrained decals on them, however the owner points to a period T&C ad in the trunk that shows a car in this very color combination without wood on either of those areas, so it's technically correct (which is the best kind of correct). The paint was done a few years ago and still shows well, with great chrome throughout. That's the original yellow leather interior, which should tell you how well preserved this ragtop really is. The hides have been re-dyed to freshen them a bit, but their condition is remarkable for their age. They remain supple and there are no cracks or dry areas, with the back seat looking almost like new. The dash was all-new in 1949, with a central instrument cluster ahead of the driver and a wide band of matching leather that foreshadows the padded dashboards of the future. Everything works, including the radio and power top, and there are new carpets on the floor in the correct material. The trunk is original, with great side panels and original brown sisal carpet. Experts will note that the black canvas top should have a large plastic rear window, but the owner prefers the look of the smaller window and therefore had it made like this. It also originally featured a yellow boot, but he had a black one made at the same time the top was done, which looks fantastic against the black paint. The engine is Chrysler's 323 cubic inch flathead straight-8 connected to a Fluid Drive transmission. With a large collection, including several Town & Country models, the owner admits that this is by far his favorite simply because the controls are light, the engine is powerful, and it's a pleasure to drive. The engine bay is highly original and I'm guessing that it's never been apart. It starts quickly, idles smoothly, and pulls with big torque even in high range. Cruising is effortless at highway speeds, and the suspension soaks up road imperfections without complaint. Newer wide whitewall radials have been fitted to the original wheels, which only improves the handling. It's original underneath, so there's some crustiness, but it's solid and rust-free, perfect for touring without worries. While some may argue that the non-Classic status hurts values, I'd argue that this car is far more handsome than the earlier cars and drives superbly. It's also less expensive, yet ready to tour this summer. Asking $99,900 and we'll happily entertain reasonable offers. Thanks for reading!

Well, the debate's settled on these, and they're Full Classics. Now regardless of whether that's a situation you agree with or not, you can't really argue that they aren't charming cars. Personally, I like this sedan a lot more than the convertibles--it offers the same kind of homey comfort as a log cabin in a more portable size. This particular T&C sedan has an interesting ownership history, as the current caretaker purchased it in 2001 from the original owner's grandson. He gave it a thorough frame-on restoration, including new paint, refinished wood with new mahogany panels (the ash frame is 100% original wood), an a spectacular new Highlander Plaid interior. All the chrome was done at the same time, so it glitters like the fittings on a million-dollar yacht, which was surely the inspiration. It's loaded with just about every accessory you can imagine, from the visor to fog lights to the rare roof-mounted luggage rack. Catalina Tan is the car's original color, and settles into the background so that the wood becomes the star of the show. The interior was fully refinished, including fresh upholstery, new carpets, and rebuilt gauges. Everything works, including the radio and heater, although the clock is disconnected to avoid draining the battery. Overhead wood slats reinforce the rustic feel and that back seat is as inviting as a cracking fire in a stone fireplace. As the current owner is a T&C expert of some note, all the little things are right, including the red emergency brake lever and the courtesy light above it that blinks if you've forgotten to release it. The trunk is upholstered to match the interior, and comes with a set of period luggage that the owner found and has decided to include with the sale of the car. The 250.6 cubic inch Spitfire six has guts, I'll give it that. Performance is pretty good, and even in high range, the Fluid Drive moves the car around town quite easily without the use of the clutch. It cruises on the highway at 60-65 MPH and pulls down decent fuel mileage at the same time. The body was not removed from the chassis for the restoration, so it's a bit crusty underneath, but everything is in top mechanical condition. I have personally been on several tours where this car was a participant, and it always shows exemplary manners and has never had any issues on the road. They built about half as many sedans as convertible Town & Countrys (Towns & Country?), and fewer than 100 are known to exist today. This one is a fantastic combination of originality and expertly restored bits that's ready to tour and enjoy this summer. Asking $99,900 and we're always open to reasonable offers. Thanks for reading!

Well, the debate's settled on these, and they're Full Classics. Now regardless of whether that's a situation you agree with or not, you can't really argue that they aren't charming cars. Personally, I like this sedan a lot more than the convertibles--it offers the same kind of homey comfort as a log cabin in a more portable size. This particular T&C sedan has an interesting ownership history, as the current caretaker purchased it in 2001 from the original owner's grandson. He gave it a thorough frame-on restoration, including new paint, refinished wood with new mahogany panels (the ash frame is 100% original wood), an a spectacular new Highlander Plaid interior. All the chrome was done at the same time, so it glitters like the fittings on a million-dollar yacht, which was surely the inspiration. It's loaded with just about every accessory you can imagine, from the visor to fog lights to the rare roof-mounted luggage rack. Catalina Tan is the car's original color, and settles into the background so that the wood becomes the star of the show. The interior was fully refinished, including fresh upholstery, new carpets, and rebuilt gauges. Everything works, including the radio and heater, although the clock is disconnected to avoid draining the battery. Overhead wood slats reinforce the rustic feel and that back seat is as inviting as a cracking fire in a stone fireplace. As the current owner is a T&C expert of some note, all the little things are right, including the red emergency brake lever and the courtesy light above it that blinks if you've forgotten to release it. The trunk is upholstered to match the interior, and comes with a set of period luggage that the owner found and has decided to include with the sale of the car. The 250.6 cubic inch Spitfire six has guts, I'll give it that. Performance is pretty good, and even in high range, the Fluid Drive moves the car around town quite easily without the use of the clutch. It cruises on the highway at 60-65 MPH and pulls down decent fuel mileage at the same time. The body was not removed from the chassis for the restoration, so it's a bit crusty underneath, but everything is in top mechanical condition. I have personally been on several tours where this car was a participant, and it always shows exemplary manners and has never had any issues on the road. They built about half as many sedans as convertible Town & Countrys (Towns & Country?), and fewer than 100 are known to exist today. This one is a fantastic combination of originality and expertly restored bits that's ready to tour and enjoy this summer. Asking $99,900 and we're always open to reasonable offers. Thanks for reading!

Most common question: Where do you get parts/tires? Most amusing question, and one my wife and I still joke about every time we see a bird-style hood ornament. I was out in my father's Model A when a fellow in a pickup rolls up next to me at a light, nods towards the famous Model A quail hood ornament and says, "What is that, some kind of grouse?" So now every bird hood ornament that we see, from LaSalle herons to Packard cormorants, is "some kind of grouse."

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I used to drive my '76 Cadillac Eldo convertible in the snow with the top down all the time on those crisp, clear days you get that are still bitter cold. Good heater in that car. I also remember one Christmas when I was a kid and we were looking forward to going to get a tree one evening when my father got home from work. He was late and we were getting a little edgy, when we hear some opera aria blaring out in the driveway, and there's my father in his 1966 Cadillac DeVille convertible, top down, giant Christmas tree sticking out of the back seat, pulling into the driveway. What a great memory! But yeah, this guy in the Miata is a nut. That's hardcore.

No, it has actually be in this family's possession since at least the late '60s here in Cleveland. The owner's father bought it, along with dozens of other cars, and kept them stashed all over the place, and we're just now digging everything out. I find things like this fascinating--how could you own such a thing and not want to drive and enjoy it? On the other hand, when opportunity knocks, you grab it and worry about the rest later, right?

Sorry, Morty, you're right. Apologies.

That's right, it's an HPOF car, which is Historical Preservation of Original Features, and it is indeed an all-original car, including paint, engine, chassis and interior. The AACA thought so highly of its originality that they gave it a National award, of which only a handful are given each year, so I think it's a pretty big deal, but it's different than a First Prize would be in a restored competition. I suspect that the left rear fender has been repainted in the distant past, but otherwise it is untouched save for maintenance items. It looks great in pictures, but from about 5 feet away you can tell it's original paint, and I might repaint the passenger side fender skirt this winter, it has two pretty big chips in it that were touched up but not very well. There are some micro-blisters and some thin spots, but for being 72 years old, it's amazing. The interior is exceptional, although the carpets are a little threadbare. It all depends on your perspective, I suppose--it's either amazing for an original or a bit tattered if you yearn for perfection. I like it just the way it is, personally, and wouldn't change a thing, mostly because I just don't worry about it getting dirty or bugs on it or rained on. I put towels on the seats to keep them clean and perfect, but otherwise my family and I just jump in and drive anywhere just as we would with a modern car. I take it out to dinner, to the store, to the movies, to visit friends, whatever. I drove it to Toronto, Canada over the summer, a round trip of more than 1000 miles, plus Hershey, which was another 1000 miles and it never hesitated for a moment, and pulls down about 17 MPG at 65 MPH. Hard to beat that in an old car. My wife can and does drive it easily, too, which is a plus. To be honest, it sounds like exactly what you've described you're looking for. It's not perfect, but you won't find more car for less money given your criteria. There's plenty you can do to fix it up if you like projects, but nothing that would take the car off the road, which I always feel is important. Plus it's a relatively rare (4100 built) top-of-the-line Full Classic Cadillac that's the only car in the Cadillac line up to not share body panels with other GM divisions (aside from limousines). Probably not many of them in Norway, either. One other thing to think about: How much time are you wasting NOT driving a fun hobby car because you're waiting for the right combination of nice car and low price? Money's easy to get, time is impossible. Just a few additional thoughts. Sorry if this sounds like a hard sell, I don't mean it to.

Coolest. Dashboard. Ever. Hell, it's worth $800 just to hang on your wall!

My personal '41 Cadillac 60S is available (Vintage Motor Cars :: 1941 Cadillac 60 Special), and is an outstanding car in every way. Totally sorted, ready to drive. In fact, I had it out today--the roads are dry, it's COLD but the heater works! It has recently earned an AACA National HPOF award to be awarded in February at the national meeting, which is a truly great honor that I'm delighted to have won. The car has an interesting history, beautiful interior, nice paint, and drives superbly. I've spent a lot of money getting it right, including $1000 worth of new tires, new fuel pumps (electric and mechanical), brakes, alignment, rebuilt carburetor, and a lot of other little stuff. Cruises effortlessly at 65MPH, always starts, rides better than my modern Audi. The 60S is a great size, too, maneuverable and trim on the same 126 inch wheelbase as the Buick Century and Roadmaster. Also forget any concerns you have about the automatic transmission--it's EXCELLENT. I WILL own another 1941 Cadillac and it WILL be an automatic. Even if you think you prefer shifting for yourself, you'll find that the automatic is every bit as enjoyable. I know I did, mostly because I always found that 3-on-the-tree gearshifts tend to feel flimsy and clunky. It also offers 3.36 gears which make high-speed cruising relaxing. The manual cars got 3.90s and they're busier on the highway, which is a big factor in the enjoyment of the car. I'm asking $32,900, but I'd take $30K for it right now because I just bought a house and got married. I don't want to sell it and am content to continue owning it, but you know how it is. Quite honestly, I know you said $30,000 is too expensive, but you're not going to get much car for under that unless you're willing to buy a fixer-upper and spend at least that much fixing it, especially in Norway! Think of the costs of shipping parts and materials over to fix up a car instead of just getting one ready to go that you can enjoy immediately. This car and the big Buick up above are HUGE bang for the buck, and you will not be able to get a fixer-upper (especially not a Century, Roadmaster or Cadillac of any type) into the same condition for less money, guaranteed. Just something to think about, especially since you've been looking for months with nothing fitting the bill. Think about it. Good luck!

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OK, Chrysler guys, why have you been holding out on me and not telling me how AWESOME the Airflow is? I've always admired the design, but today I had the opportunity to drive this freshly restored 1934 Town Sedan, and I'm flat-out amazed by how modern it feels and how entertaining it is to drive. I think I put about 15 of the 69 miles it's had since the full professional frame-off restoration was completed, and I am thoroughly impressed. Yes, I used the term frame-off, because while the Airflow is rumored to be a unit-body car, it's not. That rumor comes from the fact that the body is made from a steel cage with the body panels welded to it, however the floorboards are wood and it's still sitting on a conventional Chrysler frame. But that safety cage construction pays big dividends on the road, because there's not a squeak or rattle anywhere in the car and it just whispers down the road. And as you'd expect, there's not much wind noise thanks to the shape. The color is called either Moonglo or Sultana Sand depending on whose color chart you're using, and the light cream looks wonderful on the Airflow shape, giving it a light-hearted feel rather than the formal seriousness usually associated with them. The Town Sedan style is relatively rare in the world of Airflows, and indicates the blanked-out rear quarter windows, and I really like the look a great deal. It seems to enhance the swoopy design, especially with the rear-mounted spare. All the chrome is fresh, the paint and bodywork were professionally restored to a very high standard, and even the grille and hood ornament show exquisite detail. As stunning as the bodywork is, the interior is equally amazing. Trimmed in brown broadcloth, it clearly draws inspiration from aircraft design, particularly with the exposed tube frames for the front seat. Everything inside is new and everything works, including the massive speedometer and all the auxiliary gauges. The only thing not functioning is the manual switch for the pretty Art-Deco dome light, and that's only because the striker button on one of the doors was defective and they're waiting for a replacement. There's one especially neat feature on the front windows, too: the vent windows open traditionally with a crank, and the main window goes up and down in the usual fashion too. But flip the handle near the divider and the two become one, dropping down into the door to leave a frameless and vent-window-less opening. Too cool! The Chrysler Airflows received various versions of the corporate straight-8, with this one displacing 299 cubic inches and making 119 horsepower. In truth, it feels like more because of the torque, and having driven this one personally, I will attest that performance is more than adequate and handling is quite lively on the road. Chryslers have always used hydraulic brakes, and the Bendix binders on this one are remarkably powerful thanks to a vacuum assist. The engine bay is highly detailed for show with all the correct bits and pieces. It starts quickly and idles smoothly, and while our test drive in 40 degree weather didn't tax the cooling system, it stayed well on the low side thanks to a massive radiator. This is a California car originally, so there is no heater, but that also means the chassis and underbody are spotless. The restoration cost in excess of $120,000 and it shows in every way, and unlike most show cars, it has been mechanically sorted so everything works and it drives right. The car has not been publicly shown yet, so it is poised to start collecting the big trophies at all the major events. Quite possibly the finest CU Town Sedan in existence, it's a fantastic car that will definitely make a stir everywhere it goes. Beautiful to look at and just as beautiful to drive, I can't say enough wonderful things about this car. You can count me as an Airflow fan. Available for $69,900, which is about half the cost of restoration, and worth every penny. Thanks for reading!

Good catch. It might very well be black, but it sure looks blue in photos, doesn't it? I'm still inclined to believe it's original paint, however, as there are no obvious signs of a repaint. Might just have been the light that fooled me. I should have looked at the body tag more carefully, since my gut was telling me it was black when I first saw it. Once we get it out in the sunlight we'll know for sure. It hasn't seen the sun in a long, long time...

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OK, Chrysler guys, why have you been holding out on me and not telling me how AWESOME the Airflow is? I've always admired the design, but today I had the opportunity to drive this freshly restored 1934 Town Sedan, and I'm flat-out amazed by how modern it feels and how entertaining it is to drive. I think I put about 15 of the 69 miles it's had since the full professional frame-off restoration was completed, and I am thoroughly impressed. Yes, I used the term frame-off, because while the Airflow is rumored to be a unit-body car, it's not. That rumor comes from the fact that the body is made from a steel cage with the body panels welded to it, however the floorboards are wood and it's still sitting on a conventional Chrysler frame. But that safety cage construction pays big dividends on the road, because there's not a squeak or rattle anywhere in the car and it just whispers down the road. And as you'd expect, there's not much wind noise thanks to the shape. The color is called either Moonglo or Sultana Sand depending on whose color chart you're using, and the light cream looks wonderful on the Airflow shape, giving it a light-hearted feel rather than the formal seriousness usually associated with them. The Town Sedan style is relatively rare in the world of Airflows, and indicates the blanked-out rear quarter windows, and I really like the look a great deal. It seems to enhance the swoopy design, especially with the rear-mounted spare. All the chrome is fresh, the paint and bodywork were professionally restored to a very high standard, and even the grille and hood ornament show exquisite detail. As stunning as the bodywork is, the interior is equally amazing. Trimmed in brown broadcloth, it clearly draws inspiration from aircraft design, particularly with the exposed tube frames for the front seat. Everything inside is new and everything works, including the massive speedometer and all the auxiliary gauges. The only thing not functioning is the manual switch for the pretty Art-Deco dome light, and that's only because the striker button on one of the doors was defective and they're waiting for a replacement. There's one especially neat feature on the front windows, too: the vent windows open traditionally with a crank, and the main window goes up and down in the usual fashion too. But flip the handle near the divider and the two become one, dropping down into the door to leave a frameless and vent-window-less opening. Too cool! The Chrysler Airflows received various versions of the corporate straight-8, with this one displacing 299 cubic inches and making 119 horsepower. In truth, it feels like more because of the torque, and having driven this one personally, I will attest that performance is more than adequate and handling is quite lively on the road. Chryslers have always used hydraulic brakes, and the Bendix binders on this one are remarkably powerful thanks to a vacuum assist. The engine bay is highly detailed for show with all the correct bits and pieces. It starts quickly and idles smoothly, and while our test drive in 40 degree weather didn't tax the cooling system, it stayed well on the low side thanks to a massive radiator. This is a California car originally, so there is no heater, but that also means the chassis and underbody are spotless. The restoration cost in excess of $120,000 and it shows in every way, and unlike most show cars, it has been mechanically sorted so everything works and it drives right. The car has not been publicly shown yet, so it is poised to start collecting the big trophies at all the major events. Quite possibly the finest CU Town Sedan in existence, it's a fantastic car that will definitely make a stir everywhere it goes. Beautiful to look at and just as beautiful to drive, I can't say enough wonderful things about this car. You can count me as an Airflow fan. Available for $69,900, which is about half the cost of restoration, and worth every penny. Thanks for reading!

No worries, West. I certainly put the bait out there, and I think a spirited conversation is always welcome. The V16 is what it is, everybody's seen it, the rest is just lively talk between fellow hobbyists. It's as if we're all standing around the car having a chat after we all looked it over and shared our opinions. Let it ride!

I think it's all a matter of preferences. Personally, I don't care if the Dusenberg J drives like it has square wheels, I want one desperately. I can't explain why, but I do. The legend is surely bigger than the reality, but the reality is pretty friggin' spectacular, no? My '29 Cadillac drives like a city bus with a broken power steering pump, yet I love to climb behind the wheel and look for every excuse to do so. So forget for a moment about practicality and the comparative virtues of each make and model, and just remember that this diversity is why all cars didn't evolve into an Isetta, which is the practical limit for enclosed transportation. Packards are magnificent, but their magnificence does nothing to diminish the magnificence of a Duesenberg or Mercedes or V16 Cadillac. I stood in front of this particular V16 Cadillac for a long time and tried to use my imagination's ear to hear all 16 cylinders purring away under the hood, finely tuned and smooth, but not quite silent, with a muscular hum coming from someplace far away. Take a moment and do the same thing--what does it sound like to you? If you want to talk about driving dynamics, I have a client and good friend who is 92 years old. He owned what was widely regarded as the finest collection of pre-war European cars in the world, a collection he recently sold for a number between eight and nine figures. He has owned and driven literally everything, from an Alfa Romeo 8C to a Bugatti to a Mercedes SSK to a Bentley 8-litre LeMans touring (the definitive 8-Litre), and yes, more than a few Packards and two Duesenbergs. In his long life collecting and restoring cars, he did it because he enjoyed driving them, although his cars have also been on the awards stand at Pebble Beach. His collection still includes mid-30s Packards, both 8s and 12s and including one of the Darrin convertible sedans, a Chrysler Imperial, several V12 Lincoln Continentals, half a dozen Silver Ghosts, a Riley roadster, and even a bunch of early V8 Fords, '40s Buicks, a V12 Cadillac, and a few '40s Mopars. He is still buying, trading, and selling anything that appeals to him at the moment, and he drives them all, decides which will stay, and sells the rest. So one day I asked him if he could have only one hobby car, what would it be? He thought long and hard, and given his predilection for driving and enjoying his cars, I knew it would be something sporty. He chose the Alfa Romeo 8C 2600 roadster that he owned. But then he paused, smiled, and said, "But you know, a 1948 Plymouth convertible is awfully good." This is a gentleman who knows great cars and great driving cars, has owned and driven virtually everything in the spectrum, and in his wise and authoritative opinion, a Plymouth is superior to all of them. So no, I don't think it's just about horsepower and driving dynamics. Love what you love and don't try to explain it. Love is funny that way, and the minute that kind of passion and feeling goes out of this hobby, I'm out too.

The car in question is definitely known and the owner is listed in the usual places. It is most definitely not for sale and he does prefer to stay somewhat anonymous about it, but it's not a secret. He often gets calls from other dealers fishing for a deal. I wonder if I had listed the Brunn instead, would I be getting all these E-mails from people asking about the V16 Cadillac in the background and is it for sale? Everyone wants what they can't have, I suppose...

I have a '41 160 convertible coupe available. Vintage Motor Cars :: 1941 Packard 160 Convertible Coupe We are currently fitting it with an original overdrive unit for touring. All the other details are in the link. We also have a '49 Super 8 convertible victoria, but it's not a Full Classic, also with a freshly serviced overdrive. Not a bad car and a lot less money. Vintage Motor Cars :: 1949 Packard Super 8 Deluxe Convertible Victoria Let me know!

Good eye, West. Yes, it's a '39 Packard Twelve Brunn, and it's in similar condition to the Cadillac and has also been sitting for decades. The owner is not interested in selling that one at the moment. There's also something vastly more special and remarkable in there that I daren't even mention, again stashed away for decades and partially disassembled with a top that goes down and a twin-cam 420 cubic inch straight-8. I have been specifically instructed to ask not about this forbidden thing!