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I second that, Ron. You are a first class act. Not many people would show that kind of integrity. It is good to see occasionally. And I am certain it did not spoil your time at the show!

Welcome to the forum, Mick! Glad to have another Cadillac lover here.

As with all things in this world, there may be more behind the scenes than anyone can know. If the Webmaster (aka senior administrator) asked the subject to be dropped, he probably had a compelling reason for it. I do not know, nor can I imagine why anyone would care that much but it happens all the time. Personally, I see this as nothing more than the PAC's chickens coming home to roost. "Oh what a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive." Nez pas?

OK, that jives with what I thought WebTV was about. Then the only thing I can suggest is to have a friend upload the images you wish to post to a site for you or send them to you in email, so you can insert them into your posts. I believe, although I have not tried this, that you can cut and paste the item into the post when you are writing it. Several posters do it on here. One point that should be considered, however. When you insert a picture it slows down the download time for the webpage, even with an excellerator. Once the page has been loaded to the reader's harddrive, it can be reloaded more quickly until it is deleted, normally when the application like IE closes or when the user shuts down. So it is considered more thoughtful to post them on the Photo Post page or on a separate personal page like a personal homepage. Cut and Paste works here as well as long as you are in edit mode. Hope that helps.

I saw this on the Buick forum and due to the wonderful response thought it would be great to open one here! So how old are you and your cars?? I am 47. My '77 Eldorado is 26 and my '47 Cadillac 6269 sedan is 56. Special thanks to ***DONOTDELETE*** and all of the Buick members for this one!!

I am 47, and my Eldorado is 26, and my Cadillac Series 6s sedan is 56. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> How wonderful to see all of the younger folks on here! Not that I am old <G>...just decrepit!

My pleasure, Claire. I will say the '47 barely fit on the trailer and I had the feeling that the Dodge pickup I was hauling it with was under a lot of strain...but it worked! Now my baby runs on his own power and does wonderfully at that. Let me know how it all works out for you!

AIK, I have never seen an actual WebTV in action so my thought would be as follows: If you can load a picture to a storage media (Hard drive, CD or floppy), then uploading it is simply a matter of moving the file up to the main server, something the present forum software does. The 'if' in all of this is how to get a photo or image from hard copy or digital format so you can up load it. Does you WebTV have a hard drive or floppy drive? Is it USB compatible? Or is it what we call a 'dumb' terminal, meaning it has one input device, the key board/mouse? If the latter, then you will have to have a friend upload the image for you. I will try and find out more about WebTV and let you know.

Hi Claire, I was thinking, have you tried with contractor equipment rentals? They have large 18+ trailers to haul backhoes and the like...maybe you could get a deal on one of those. I found an 18 footer in Ft. Worth to haul my '47 Cadillac from Kansas back to Dallas. It was normally used for hauling farm and road equipment. Just a thought.

I am planning, all things being equal, to make it next year. I want to have the Dutchman ready for the trip. My other trip would be to the Grand Nationals for the Cadillac LaSalle Club. What a thrill that must have been.

Congratulations on the award! We would love to see some pictures of your car!

The Trofeo was a package for the Olds Toronado in the 1980s and 90s. I think it was sporty...not sure but I have seen several around in my neck of the woods.

Dave, I think we can all agree with your experience. Most of the people I interacted with during my tenure as a systems programmer and network administrator through the 80s and 90s were more interested in electrical gagets and toys than objects like Classic cars. I use the term here as perscribed in the CCCA. I doubt I will ever have a true Classic. My health and life are now down to the point of simply existing, living day to day, as I try and figure out what I can do with myself for the next 40 years. I would love to own a pre-war Cadillac but that is not in the cards. The people around me like computers, PDAs, and all of the little things we add to life. There is too much of mindless spending these days, but that is another subject. I count myself very fortunate to have found, and had the opportunity to fenagle the current Classic I do own. As it is, it is a 1947 Cadillac Series 62 Sedan...yawn...which is nice but unremarkable by most counts. So imagine the response I get over my 1977 Eldorado in its gold skin. I have to admit there is not much to the 70s, 80s or 90s that generates interest. I am not even sure it is sad, but inevitable. As technology improved, cars became more and more equal in what they offered the public. I remember clearly that Cadillacs, Lincolns and Chryslers were all so much more luxurious than the run of the mill car that it excited curiousity to see one in a parking lot. That was in 1976. But even then, I saw that the mid size cars were becoming more like their expensive big brothers. And then you have the imports. Now you can buy a Hyundai Sonata fully decked out with the same fake wood trim and leather as a Cadillac or Lincoln, for around $18000....why buy the $50000 marque unless you just HAVE to have the badge? Yes I know it is heresy to say that. But I cannot imagine spending that kind of money for a car that will not survive the test of time as well as its predecessors. Besides, with the new electronic systems, the cars have become so much more complex that you spend nearly all of your time fooling with sensors and digi this, and digi thats. It seems to sell cars, the automakers have foregone building quality machines in favor of bright, expensive baubles that will fade and break in a few years, but then who cares when you have a warrenty to fix it...then dump it to buy a new one furthering your dependance on credit, I might add. I DO like some of the new cars. The Cadillac Brougham for the mid-1990s are handsome...pitty they were the last...and the newer CTS is a good looking car. It is just a pitty it is so small inside. I am past the time when I want to wear my car like a suit. When touring the local Caddy dealer recently, they showed that the DeVille comes in a basic style, to which the dealer can tack on a fake carriage roof with snaps, in gold if you like! But the basic car is the same. One style...one interior...thick with padding and unimaginative. That is not what I would want for my $50,000. So I stick to the older generations. I thought I might show my Eldorado but it just is not the same. It is too modern...all fluff and no spark. I like it, very much in fact, but it is not inspiring. For that I would have to stick to the 60's, or 50's. Maybe the problem is with me. Not so much my generation but me. I like things that only a few like. I am turned off by excess. I dislike the way we are going in this country. There is so much to enjoy, so much to offer, and yet the very things that make life worth enjoying are fading; honor, self-respect, integrity, charity, concern for others. How many even know what the Golden Rule is let alone understand it? Age may be the telling variable here. When I figure it out, I'll let you know. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Welcome back, Wayne! Missed you....could you be one of the many truckers I wink my lights at when they pass? I love it when the wink theirs back. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

It all depends on what you want your car to do and be while in your care. Some shudder at the idea of anything not authentic. Others modify to their hearts content. Is the car to be a show car? A tourer? A good weekend driver? A second driver? Or a primary? Restoration is for the show circuit by and large. As Mr. Hartmann put it so well, if verbosely, most do not restore a vehicle (that is to showroom or off assembly line condition) to put it out on the highway to be assaulted by bugs, rocks and inattentive drivers. Repair is for cars to be driven. The degree to which you repair a car with authentic materials is up to you. I chose a long wearing fabric, not original, for my car. I get flak over it but it was the best choice for my needs. I try to maintain the originality of the car to the best degree that I can but I freely make modifications where it is necessary, either for use or due to monitary constraints. My car will never score high in a show, but I still show it. Most people do not care that it is not 100%. They simply marvel that it still is on the road and takes me where I want to go in style. Maintenance is what I do to keep it healthy. Little things like that small tear you were talking about. I only fix what breaks, so for the most part the car has most of its original parts. I rebuilt the carburetor to keep it but I know soon I will have to replace it with a new one. Its old and worn. I kept the old generator as long as I could before replacing it. Mostly I have worked to keep the originality of the system intact. It remains 6 volt. No modifications to the exhaust or engine have been done. The brakes are all original and work beautifully. Driving simply means being careful and proactive. I may put an overdrive on the car to preserve the engine and help with highway speeds. As it is, I drive at 60 for the most part in the slow lane. This is a topic as volitile as any on this forum. You will meet people who damn you for making the slightest modification, while others go to the other extreme and modify to a fair thee well. It all comes down to what you want to do with your car. Once the decision is made, you can always redo it later. That is always an option time and money permitting.

I guess I would like to see more data on how synthetics work in oil sump system like the flat head in my car. Without a filter, I have read that synthetics separate dirt, and harmful particulates better than petrolium based oils reducing the amount of crud that comes out the tail pipe. I was hoping you might have a source for more information on this, John. As I said, right now the standard oils are working fine. I was just looking to see if there might be even a marginal difference to make it worth my while. I will let you know when I come up with something.

Aside from the worries about rubber seals in older cars, would synthetics help the '47 flat head V-8? I keep wondering about that. So far it has done really well on just regular oil. Probably better not to change it I guess, cause as we all know, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I would love to see some pics of it some time, Tyrone. It sounds wonderful. I do not have a problem with customizing, period. My personal preferences aside, it is as valuable an expression as restoration. Of course it would be a sin to do that to a car in good restorable shape, but the bottomline is when a person buys a car, it is theirs to do with as they please.

Hi, HLevitt! I restored my '47 Caddy for touring (aka driving around) and chose to keep the 6Volt system intact. I have not regretted it. I use a good gel battery and had the wiring harnesses replaced with an excellent OEM model from Rhode Island Electric. It was hand built and dead on for period accuracy. All of the gauges work, lights and even the radio (which I had refurbished). As long as the grounds are good, clean 6 Volt cables secured to clean, body bolts, the system works flawlessly. I have made small provisions for comfort in redoing the radio but all of the main systems in the car are right off the assembly line. Whichever way you choose, it is your car and you know your needs. 6 Volt is just fine so don't worry about keeping it if you want. If you plan to show the car, I would keep it original or as close as possible. My 2 cents worth! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Thanks, Wayne. That is now making sense. Sorry to be so ignorant but I really know very little about this side of cars. However, I am interested and want to learn. It is all interesting to me. Tyrone, are you thinking of maybe restoring a car to original? If so what marque and year would you be interested in? I was thinking of customizing my 69 Olds 98 before its demise, but only for performance, and that within tolerance of its class. I figured a little extra help would make that 455 howl. Damn shame that kid hit me. I don't think my '77 is the right material although it would be funn to give the old girl some real guts without making it LOOK that way. <G> I like subtlty. Low profile and unassuming....but power to blow your socks off.

I get it now! OK. It would be interesting to see pictures. I get the impression that customizers do it for a variety of reasons including looks. Performance is one thing, and looks are another. I do not know what the rear end he is describing looks like in situ but were it chromed I bet it is real shiney! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Tyrone, is this car chopped and channeled? (I just learned what all that was about).

I want to also welcome you to the forum 48LCCoupe. That is a marvelous car you have taken on. I would love to see some pictures of it some time. If you have the time, take a gander at some of the other clubs represented herein. I have a '47 Cadillac and started on here to find information out on my '69 Olds 98 Holiday coupe. But over time I have found little gems of information throughout that makes this truly a versatile and bountiful site. I look forward to hearing more about your custom work. Regards, Randy <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

OK Diz...speak English!! What were you telling him? I want to see if I understand. Is the rear end not capable of handling the power of the engine? Enlighten a poor wolf! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I have to second that opinion Near. Let's see...you take a 2 to 4 ton machine, grease and oil, that runs on open roads and expect it to look like Mah-tha Stewart's cupboard. Hmmmmm. Sounds like a Trailer Queen to me. I don't know why they don't put prosthetic engines in, all duded up just like the real thing but without all that messy, nasty petrolieum goo. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Just kidding. But seriously, I like to view cars at a show that then fire up and head out to head home with family and dog in the back. I am a big car picture fan. Sometimes it is the only time I will ever see a certain car. But when I am trolling for pictures at a show, I try to remember I am only one of many there to enjoy the show. Also it is nice to have people in the pictures. Besides, my great thrill is the interiors so I get to talk to the folk who own the car and sometimes, if I am very lucky, they will let me sit in it! I will agree too, that I perfer the boot and bonnets down until the judges come round.

You know, Diz, I am behind you 100%. I know plastics are supposed to be more durable and lighter etc., but they look awful, cheap and tawdry. What material should it be made of in your case? Maybe plastics are a boon to medicine but in cars they have made them common, common, common. And if it was meant to be cheaper, would you care to explain to me why modern plastic bubbles cost so much? As far as I can see they are all plastic, so theoretically, they should be under $10K. Uh huh. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />