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This thread hangs in there and reminds me that the 1985 just turned 36. Quietly, it's now firmly on the old Corvette side of the old versus new dividing line. I don't think we'll ever take it 6,314 miles again, but I could see over 1,000.
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7 hours ago, padgett said:
Wasn't SEMA's first major action about standardizing radios ? My '78 Sunbird was ordered with a Radio Accommodation Package for $26.00. Included windshield antenna and wiring.
Most factory radios were awful—and not just with domestic cars. Many German cars included no radio well into the eighties—the assumption was that buyers who cared about sound would pick something from the aftermarket they liked and order it from folks like Crutchfield. In 1983, the Delco-GM/Bose Music System started to change that view.
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You did fine with the pictures—thank you. What I have (so far) for 1996 options (other than the supercharger) is this:
1996 Riviera options Exterior options RPO code Price Electric sliding Astroroof w/power sunshade CF5 $995 Bright White Diamond Tri-Coat paint 78 $395 Body-side accent stripes $45 Paint stripe delete NC Mechanical options RPO code Price Engine block heater K05 $18 16-inch chrome-plated aluminum wheels $695 Interior trim /upholstery options RPO code Price Heated driver's seat w/memory for driver & passenger outside mirrors A43 $310 Leather/vinyl 55/45 front seats w/driver & passenger recliners AM6 $600 Leather/vinyl front bucket seats w/operating console AS7 $750 Options packages RPO code Price SE Prestige package SE $1,150 Based on your photographs, I believe you have AS7 (bucket seats with console) and the SE Prestige package—in addition to the supercharged engine and what came with it. By 1996, the CD player was standard. If I'm wrong with any of this, there are others on this forum who can correct me.
The Ruby Red Metallic with the Dark Ruby Red leather seats is a sharp combination. Best of luck with the sale.
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On 11/24/2020 at 3:37 PM, Pat Curran said:
Pictures?
Agreed. Also, what options other than the supercharger?
If my Google skills are functioning, I believe Bob is ROA member #257.
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@RivNut That looks sharp—thank you. What was your decision process for doing that extra work to become the classic one of one?
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19 minutes ago, RivNut said:
I put a convertible top on my 84 that matched the seats. Anyone at the 2005 meet in Eureka Springs probably saw it.
@RivNut I'll bet that looks sharp—do you have a picture easily available? I took a look at the Riview archives, but the July/August 2005 issue only has a fairly low-resolution photograph.
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28 minutes ago, Pat Curran said:
I have never seen an original rag top in anything but white or red colors with a white top and red interior.
Thanks, as always, @Pat Curran — if I don't find some other information, I'll likely reach out to our ROA folks and ask for a change.
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… the 1980 Riviera had 14 (!) audio options:
UM7 Signal Seeking AM‐FM Stereo Radio w/Digital Readout $185.00 UU1 AM‐FM Stereo Full Feature Radio $208.00 UM2 8 Track Tape & AM/FM Stereo Radio $81.00 UM4 8 Track Tape & Signal Seeking AM/FM Stereo Radio With Digital Readout $298.00 UU3 8 Track Tape & AM/FM Stereo Full Feature Radio $289.00 UM6 Cassette Tape & Signal Seeking AM/FM Stereo w/Digital Clock $325.00 UN3 Cassette & AM/FM Stereo Radio $94.00 UU2 Cassette Tape & AM/FM Stereo Full Feature Radio $302.00 UP6 CB & AM/FM Stereo Radio (includes Antenna U83) $290.00 UP1 CB, 8 Track Tape & AM/FM Stereo (incl. antenna U83) $360.00 UM3 Signal Seeking CB & AM/FM Stereo w/Digital Clock (incl. antenna U83) $473.00 UM5 Signal Seeking CB, 8 Track Tape & Signal Seeking AM/FM Stereo w/Digital Clock (incl. antenna U83) $587.00 UN5 Signal Seeking CB, Cassette Tape & Signal Seeking AM/FM Stereo w/Digital Clock (incl. antenna U83) $613.00 U83 Triband Power Antenna (incl. w/CB radios) —and, by the way, the new forum software pastes rich text really well.
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That looks great—you must be very pleased with your results.
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The ROA site lists four exterior colors for the 1985 Riviera convertible:
http://rivowners.org/features/Ev_Stats/colortrim/85.html—they are the expected White and Red Firemist, along with Light Sage and Medium Sage. I can find no evidence anywhere else that Light Sage and Medium Sage were available for the convertible—in fact most of my sources describe those two colors as only being available for the sport coupe, and not for either the convertible or the T Type.
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Once again, something I've never had to think about because even my oldest car is (kind of) modern. Do alignment specifications for radials exist for cars that never offered them?
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On 9/3/2020 at 12:42 PM, kreed said:
Beautiful color Steve - seems like chrome always takes twice as long. Keep us updated on progress .
Agreed on the color—wow!
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15 hours ago, Buffalowed Bill said:
Until about 1990 I don't think I had ever ridden in a car with AC. Even many luxury cars didn't come with them. Today in mild Seattle, I have to force myself to use the AC in my cars to keep them operable.
When we bought our 1995 Honda Civic, air conditioning for it was still a dealer-installed option—none came from the factory with AC. There's such a difference in the arrival years of standard air conditioning, depending on the market position of the car and other factors. Some not-so-random examples:
Lincoln Continental Mark III—1971
Cadillac Eldorado—1975
Buick Riviera—1978
Chevrolet Corvette—1980
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On 8/21/2020 at 9:41 PM, RivNut said:
Hmmm. The steering is not part of the Fisher Body plant, it's downstream in final assembly. I found a code on one site but I've found errors on other parts of the site. Back to your question. What I found says the code for the tilt wheel is L1.
L1 for both 1963 and 1964, I believe. Just to confuse things, L1 became the code for Soft-Ray tinted glass (all windows) in 1965 and for some years thereafter.
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11 hours ago, RivNut said:
"Hi Ed, this is Chris in Denver." Once a week Chris would call and we'd talk on and on. Miss that, miss him and his wealth of knowledge. Before his passing he was compiling info for a sequel to his book and wanted me and s couple of others to collaborate with him. I have no idea where is notes and rough drafts may have gone. I was to take pictures of 86 - 93 Rivieras at the next meet noting the subtle differences among years. We never got that far.
Sounds like a substantial loss to this portion of the automotive hobby. Thanks for the context, Ed and Jim.
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21 hours ago, alsancle said:
Cadillac made many two seat coupes, roadsters and convertible coupes prior to WWII.
Thank you—that's what I thought. Perhaps safer to say it was their first post-war two-seater.
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(because I figure someone on this forum will know)
Was the Allanté truly Cadillac's first production two-seater? I'm fairly confident that it's the first one in the last seventy years, but I'm weak(er) on automotive history prior to around 1950.
Thanks in advance.
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On 8/10/2020 at 9:53 AM, Mister Fab said:
Welcome, Fabrice! Bringing a Riviera to France seems very appropriate.
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23 hours ago, Rivman said:
Even though you don’t see these much, they were the original wheels for the ’95 to ’97 naturally aspirated Riviera. The more popular 12 spoke wheel, was installed when the supercharger was ordered, which was more common.
Are there exact or approximate numbers for sales of the supercharger option in 1995, 1996, and 1997? Obviously, they were pretty high or Buick wouldn't have made it standard in 1998 and 1999.
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Featured in one of the Hemmings emails yesterday—1963 Granada Red (I guess) Riviera with a black interior of some sort (not pictured and undescribed), asking $18,000 negotiable:
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/buick/riviera/2327496.html
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… this one for the sixth-generation (1979 to 1985) Rivieras. Colors not even close to fully calibrated. Click the image to expand somewhat.
Some notes:
1) Thin black horizontal lines indicate that the color formulation is the same, even when the name isn't the same. They also indicate when the exact same formulation came back after a few years and when a color carried over from the previous generation.
2) The number is the actual Buick paint number, while an asterisk indicates metallic. Even if the paint number didn't change, the formulation sometimes did, like Red Firemist from 1982 to 1983.
3) Colors are sorted by their Hue value. One of the many ways to describe a particular color is the HSB color space—Hue, Saturation, and Brightness. Also named as HSL (Hue, Saturation, and Lightness), HSB is a different way of measuring the RGB color space. The interest here is that it nicely separates hue from other color factors over 360 degrees, with the red in ROYGBIV starting at about 345 degrees.
HSB was initially conceived as a way to add color to black-and-white television transmissions without changing the signal that the black-and-white sets were receiving. It has been around for quite a while—French engineer Georges Valensi invented it in 1938, pre-dating the first consumer color televisions by 16 years.
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5 hours ago, EmTee said:
Neat color combo.
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There were just a four Rivieras at Mecum's Indy auction and all but one sold. All descriptions as claimed by Mecum and/or the seller.
1970 Glacier White Riviera GS coupe with a white vinyl top, a white interior (not pictured), and 31,000 miles ($14,000 hammer price):
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0520-428788/1970-buick-riviera-gs/
1970 gold Riviera GS coupe with a black vinyl top and a green vinyl bench seat (no sale at $25,000—designated as The Bid Goes On … in case someone comes forward with a higher bid)
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0520-413983/1970-buick-riviera-gs/
1973 Burnt Coral/Burgundy/? Riviera GS Stage 1 coupe with a white vinyl top, saddle vinyl 40/40 seats, and 23,000 miles ($41,000 hammer price):
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0520-414593/1973-buick-riviera-gs-stage-1/
1982 White Riviera convertible with 45/45 maple leather seats ($6,500 hammer price):
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0520-413361/1982-buick-riviera-convertible/There was also one ur-Riviera. 1955 Belfast Green/Dover White two-tone Special Riviera coupe with a green/white bench seat ($22,000 hammer price):
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0520-428751/1955-buick-special-riviera/
The $41,000 that the 1973 GS Stage 1 went for is right on Hagerty's "all the money" for a #1/Concours car.
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16 hours ago, BUICK RACER said:
… this was discussed on V8buick.com …
Wow! Just took a look at that thread …
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Rivieras and Riviera parts for sale on local Craigslist, eBay, etc.
in Buick Riviera
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1963 Arctic White Riviera coupe with unknown mileage on Bring A Trailer:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-buick-riviera-13/