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On 3/6/2021 at 9:22 PM, NC1968Riviera said:
John, distance is no obstacle in pursuit of the right Riviera! 😀
Mike, on further inspection, it does not seem to have the sunroof. Nice to see eighth-generation Rivieras that aren't white or beige, though.
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5 hours ago, MasonLucas said:
1996 Buick Riviera Coupe Red FWD Automatic On Ebay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-Buick-Riviera/274703442402?
Paint looks good, color meets my preference, seems to have the sunroof. Only 2,708 miles away …
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1 hour ago, 28 Chrysler said:
At the same time a group of teen aged boys were walking by, one recognized the engine was a Hemi and said to the others "Who would put one of those in that big old boat"
Hah! The factory.
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1 hour ago, RivNut said:
I understand that the suspension on the 1997 is unique to all other 8th generation cars. Someone more familiar with this than me should chime in.
You are correct. @Rivman gave me the low-down on the suspension changes in that 2019 thread.
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Just a few years ago, someone asked me quite earnestly if my 1985 was the new Corvette.
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… and right away on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Buick-Riviera/333900546901
with this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN9MWaUOLAIIf
Does what I believe is passenger's side body damage (ahead of the rear wheel) mean "run away"?
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A note that none of the 19 1996-1999 Rivieras listed in the January/February 2021 Riview meet this (again, I know, picky) specification. Most fail on color or mileage. Some attractive cars that make it through those first two sorts (such as the Ruby Red Metallic 1996) lack options I desire.
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I am restarting my very picky search for an eighth generation Riviera, and I figure you are the first folks (other than my lovely wife) to inform of this and also almost certainly the folks I will come to with questions.
I do feel I learned a lot from this thread back in mid-2019:
Since some kind folks have continued to keep an eye out for me, these are the specifics of what I'm looking for:
- Supercharger (I know it was optional in 1996/1997 and standard in 1998/1999)
- 1996-1999 (I want ODB-II and the slight amount of extra power)
- Less than 100,000 miles (I'd prefer in the 30,000 to 60,000 range, but that's negotiable)
- An exterior in a dark metallic jewel tone (examples over the years would include Majestic Teal Metallic/Pearl, Dark Cherry Metallic, Ruby Red Metallic, Bordeaux Red Pearl, and Midnight Blue Pearl). I might make an exception for a few lighter-colored metallics such as Slate Green Pearl or Santa Fe Red Pearl. I like and respect the Silver Arrows, but they're not for me: we already have two special edition GM products in the garage, and I think that's enough.
- An Astroroof
- Leather bucket seats (I know they were optional in 1996/1997 and standard in 1998/1999)
—and, yes, I know that's picky—but I am willing to wait until I find the right one for me.
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In my job, color-blindness is an issue for our accessibility initiatives. Many vendors have color-blindness tools—Adobe's is an interesting one:
https://color.adobe.com/create/color-accessibilityOne more thing—there are three major types of color-blindness.
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I agree that using CPI can often be unreliable, but some models have stayed in about the same range when matched against CPI. For example, Corvette base prices remained in the same $29,000 to $38,000 range in today's dollars for almost a quarter of a century between 1953 and 1979. There was a significant rise between 1979 and 1990. Since 1990 (now over thirty years), base prices have been relatively consistent in the $55,000 to $65,000 range (again, in today's dollars as set by CPI).
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With a sample size of almost 1,400, eighth-generation Riviera whites are tracking at 25.1%.
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On 2/9/2021 at 9:13 AM, TAKerry said:
As a side note the Brits covert HQ is on the QEII, sitting half capsized in the harbor at Hong Kong ( i think). They make a comment on real estate prices, lol. As a young child I was spending some time in S FLA and the QEII was at the port in Lauderdale maybe. It was kind of a big deal and they were offering tours. I remember going there with my mother and grandmother. It was the voyage after that it sank in China.
I believe it was the original Queen Elizabeth—not the QEII:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Queen_Elizabeth
The QEII is still very much with us, but now is a floating hotel:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Elizabeth_2-
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5 hours ago, Seafoam65 said:
they usually start to leak a little oil at 70K and get bouncy at 100-125k. The oil leakage is no reason to change them....wait till the bouncing starts.
Thank you. Likely restarting my search soon.
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19 hours ago, RivNut said:
From my experience on this site, I've learned that when a subject is first brought up, there is a lot of discussion. The next time, because it's been cussed and discussed to the ends of the Earth, there's very little discussion. Searching out the original threads and posts will give you a lot more information than rehashing something old.
That would be correct. There's relatively little new information on cars that average 42 years old.
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8 hours ago, RivNut said:
Kind of funny that the first Star Wars movie didn't come out until 10 years later.
Agreed.
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7 hours ago, psychostang said:
In 1966 the words "Riviera GS" appeared on the wood trim attached to the glove box door. The letters are in a block style like those used on the fenders. Despite what some dealer brochures listed this was the last year that the GS marking appeared in the interior.
The brochures lied about this for a couple of years—the sixties equivalent of a "cut and paste" mistake.
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2 hours ago, awk409ak said:
Just to add to what Tom states above. According to Darwin Falk #2077 report (Nov./Dec. 2007) on 1964 Riviera paint colors. Top 3 were, Arctic White, Code C, was 19.12%, Silver Cloud, Code D was 12.77%, and Marlin Blue, Code F was 10.58%. The bottom 3 were. Granada Red, Code V, was 2.42%, Sunburst Yellow, Code K was 2.01%, and Coral Mist, Code N, was 1.71%. Only one lower was special order color at 0.24. The numbers for 1963, again per Darwin are very similar to 1964 numbers.
Darwin's Options Not Included articles are great, but he doesn't cover any Rivieras past the sixth-generation cars.
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On 2/7/2021 at 10:39 AM, 1965rivgs said:
This is not a trend that is exclusive to the 8th generation Riviera. I happen to have the production figures on my desk this morning for 1965. In that model year 15% of Rivieras produced were white.
Also not a surprise that a Buick customer would be drawn to Diamond White paint. I haven't done any research but I`d guess Diamond White was a Cadillac color before available in other GM car lines. Have we seen Buick buyers step up to Cadillac colors in the past?
I wasn't surprised at the popularity of white on the eighth-generation cars—I was somewhat surprised that my fairly random sample confirmed this popularity so emphatically.
The history of the extra-cost Riviera white is somewhat sketchy because some vendor's paint formulations changed (Ditzler) and some didn't (DuPont). Pearlescent Diamond White (93) showed up in the 1989 Riviera, along with the seventh-generation mid-life re-style. It was available through the end of the seventh-generation in 1993. There was no extra-cost white in 1995—it returned with a different paint code (78) in 1996 and continued through 1999.
Interestingly, the Diamond White that was available to Cadillac and Chevrolet (!) before 1989 did not have a midcoat. The Diamond White (78) color formulation last appeared in Buicks, Cadillacs, and Oldsmobiles in 2001. Current General Motors tri-coat whites have different formulations and names like Crystal White, Iridescent Pearl, and White Frost.
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4 minutes ago, jj5794 said:
At the 2018 Overland Park Kansas Rivera Owners Association International Meet, five out of six eighth generation non-Silver Arrow Rivieras were white. I believe they were all diamond white by my recollection. The sixth non-Silver Arrow Riviera was silver. One 1999 Silver Arrow model was there.
It's wild—at least so far in my analysis it looks like there were far more white Rivieras in 1999 than there were of the Silver Arrows. Of course, the Silver Arrow number is the one that is known—200 equals 10.2% of that final year.
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White Rivieras also appeared in most of the eighth-generation brochures. Based on the earlier years where we do have color sales data, appearance in a brochure does drive color popularity to some degree.
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51 minutes ago, RivNut said:
How does the percentage of white (in whatever shade) compare to other GM products from the same era, and to other brands. Around here, I'd guess that 50% of all cars on the road are white or silver. Two white cars in my driveway.
@RivNut that's a very good point. I'd bet, for example, that there were a lot of white Eldorados in the same era.
A car there is precise color data for from the same era is the Corvette:
1995—Arctic White, 16% of production, third most popular
1996—Arctic White, 15%, fourth most popular
1997—Arctic White, 14%, fourth most popular
1998—Arctic White, 11%, fourth most popular
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5 minutes ago, Jim Skelly said:
not true; white and diamond white were available colors
The whites were definitely available for purchase. I don't believe that what @dship was saying, but I'll let him clarify.
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1 hour ago, dship said:
I was always lead to believe that the 8th generation Rivieras that were of some "shade" of white were former lease cars. Don't know if its true or not.
Interesting …
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… with a sample size of 1,000, just about a quarter of eight-generation Rivieras are either Bright White or Bright White Diamond Metallic/Bright White Diamond Tri-Coat/Bright White Diamond.
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