[Another mis-labeled museum photo]

General agreement at this end is that it an early six cylinder Oakland from 1916.

 

[Another mis-labeled museum photo]

Not a Model T but what is it. Sort of Dodge-like but the badge looks to be oval - or is that just photo distortion? Headlamp tie bar is wrong for Oakland.

 

Typical wordy description from someone who has no idea.

 

 

 

 

[Mystery sedan circa 1926]

Posted on a facebook page by Dan Covery who writes - "..somewhere in Pennsylvania, Great Uncle Convery was a Pinkerton Guard. Need help identifying the car".

 

The license plate is Penn 1926. Photo not very clear but I can see patterning on the head light rims.

 

My first thought was Jewett but it is not that.

 

[When was this car built?]

17 hours ago, keiser31 said:

Looks a lot like maybe a 1930 Dodge with 12 spokes and straight bumper bars.

 

Maybe a 1928-29 Graham-Paige, the early model with the coarse hood louvres.

 

My sample photo is a smaller model than in the mystery pic.

 

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1 hour ago, LCK81403 said:

This old tyme mod possibly is a former American LaFrance firetruck; strongly resembles the 1920 American LaFrance in a garage.  The '27 A.L. fire pumper truck doesn't show a whole lot of styling changes, except for the wheels and tires.  American LaFrance speedsters are not underpowered by any means.  The custom modified 1917 American LaFrance boattail speedster tips the scale into the realm of steam punk.

 

I don't think this is an 'old tyme mod' I think it is a standard tractor unit, for hauling a big long ladder trailer. At a guess this one is a LaFrance?

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, LCK81403 said:

 

 

 

 

 

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This photo was linked from the Harley-Davidson museum facebook page and shows Milwaukee Engine Company 24 with their ladder truck and and H-D bike in 1914. Any clues as to what make the fire truck is? 

 

 

[Does anyone have head bolt torque specs for 1930 Studebaker Dictator 6?]

This might help. Worth filing away even if you don't use it this time - 

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Another Pomeroy bus body. I am not sure whether it is a Dodge or a Graham Brothers. I suspect at that time where was little difference and it depended on what badge the customer wanted.  The photo dates from 1928-29 but I think the chassis is a few years older When did front wheel brakes become available on these?

 

[1920's Victoria?]

On 1/27/2022 at 9:44 AM, robert b said:

yes you are right , made by Dodge Brothers badged Graham Brothers .

Yes, the Graham Brothers had sold out their interest in Dodge by this time but their name was still popular and Dodge continued to use it for several years.

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Posted a short time ago on facebook. Comments say Stutz but I reckon it isn't. Several reasons - lack of visible rear springs, and it has left hand drive.

 

I reckon it is a custom, built from a late teens Buick touring car. The roadsters have different fenders - curved down to the running board.

 

[Wooden spoke wheels (???)]

Front wheel contracting band brakes so not earlier than 1924 and not later than 1929. The hubcap is not 1929.  When did Buick switch from caps lettering to script?

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Pomeroy's garage in Alexandra St, Hamilton, New Zealand, was general service garage as well as being a coachbuilder. Note even then the signwriter felt the need to put an apostrophe in Willys.

 

 

 

 

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Some photos of the Douglas family on holiday in the north of New Zealand in their mid 1920s Austin.   Hamilton library photos.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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A nice clear photo of the Douglas family in their new 1915 Buick C-25. Hamilton library photo.

 

 

 

 

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Another one from the Hamilton, New Zealand, library collection. The Duncan family of Eureka with their Oldsmobile.  

 

Ant thoughts which model it might be?

 

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A photo taken in the domain in Hamilton, New Zealand. It well illustrates the government's preference that New Zealanders should drive British cars.  In the post WW2 era only a very small percentage of the cars sold in NZ came from North America. The photo dates from the 1950s but the car of interest here is definitely pre WW2. Maybe a circa 1936 Chrysler Airflow? Not a lot of these came to NZ. One unusual factor is there are no pre WW2 cars in the photo - except for what might be a late 1930s Chevrolet just visible in the left corner. Due to restrictions on availability of new cars there were still plenty of pre WW2 cars on the road then.

 

In case anyone is wondering the cars along the kerb at the back are; - a circa 1948 Vauxhall J-type 14/6, a mid 1950s Ford Prefect 100E, a mid 1950s Morris Minor, an early 1950s MO series Morris Oxford, a 1948-52 Austin A40 Devon, and then two E series Vauxhall Veloxes, which btw were the best selling large-ish car in NZ at that time.

 

Facing the camera are; - an early 1950s  Hillman Minx, a Morris Oxford of the series that followed the MO, a Fiat 1100 (relatively rare here), a Standard Vanguard Phase Two, a Vauxhall Velox L-series (the model that came between the 14/6 and the E series), a 1948-ish Dodge (that one will have likely been sourced ex-Canada), a Morris 8 Series E (a model that was first seen in 1939 and was continued in production after WW2 until replaced by the Minor), another Prefect 100E, another Morris Minor (the grille style tells us it is an early 1950s side valve model), another Austin A40 (this one is a pickup with a canopy) 

 

 

 

 

[Unknown Sedan - Probably 1920s]

The drum lights and the tallish hood louvres date the car to 1922-24 I think, but those very small hub caps have me mystified.

 

I think it is something mid-range pricewise. Sedans were expensive then and I suspect this was most of $2,000. In the same class as a Studebaker Special Six.

[Unknown Sedan - Probably 1920s]

3 hours ago, 60FlatTop said:

Here is a 1925 V 63 Cadillac. Those drum headlights  kind of zero it in.

Cadillacs, and a few other more expensive makes - have noticeably large rear hub caps.

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A photo from the Hamilton, New Zealand, library. It is unfortunate that so many think that all old cars were Model Ts.

 

I reckon the car here is a four cylinder Buick - circa 1916-17.

 

 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, keiser31 said:

1934 or so BMW.

There looks to have been a confusing range of models for a few years there -   BMW 303 - Wikipedia

 

I think I would go with Model 315 - 

 

 

The sports version was the 315/1. Note the front suspension - not visible in other photos.

 

 

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18 hours ago, twin6 said:

Don't know the make of car, but there are plenty of clues for the sleuths.  Plate is 1913 Quebec (dealer).

First answer I have had on this one is 1913 McLaughlin Model 31. Perhaps these ones with gas side lamps are from very slightly earlier?

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, alsancle said:

 

 

The Cord E1.   Then and now.    Note the usual "upgrades" that happened during restoration.

 

 

 

 

I think Duesenberg sedan in the b/w photo, and the Cord E-1 are two different  - unrelated - cars?

 

E-1 Cord (tomstrongman.com)

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This one came up on a French facebook page. The story is here - John Thomas Batts, Packard, De-Luxe Highway Pullman, Pasadena, Grand Rapids, Batts Hanger, US Patent No. D. 87,954 - CoachBuilt.com

 

[My 1934 Buick]

1 hour ago, Marty Roth said:

Pedal arrangement for righthand drive cars is the same as for lefthand drive cars, as I recall-

That was also the same even for my 1948 MG-TC, owned, restored, and rallyed back in the 1960s

We put a central pedal on the '26 Pontiac as well. Made it easier to set up, and that was what it had originally - but didn't have a door hinge in 1926.  Last time out it broke an axle but that has been fixed now.  Btw the original specs for the 1926 Pontiac list it has having a 4.18:1 rear end. My son was able to get a complete rear end from a Chevrolet to provide an axle for the Pontiac and while he had the Pontiac apart counted the rear end gears - which are 42:11 - 3.82:1, which means it may have had a Chev rear end fitted way way back in the day. It always looked as if it had never been apart.

 

 

 

 

[My 1934 Buick]

57 minutes ago, Marty Roth said:

Pedal arrangement for righthand drive cars is the same as for lefthand drive cars, as I recall-

That was also the same even for my 1948 MG-TC, owned, restored, and rallyed back in the 1960s

The answer is yes, except that with many older models with restricted foot room the accelerator pedal is between the clutch and brake - as in my 1929 Studebaker -