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3 hours ago, LCK81403 said:
The photo of this automobile continues to be a mystery. Two versions of this photo have been posted, one of them is a reversed image. The photo here probably is the true image because the annotations on the photo reads in correct order, "Ruth McDonald" and "4248-1". Hence the automobile probably is am American model, a roadster / speedster that has a right-side suicide seat (the fold down door and foot rest). The spare tire and wheel mounts on the rear similar to the auto in the second attached photo, supposedly identified as a 1915 Crane Simplex runabout. I can not vouch for the accuracy of the '15 Crane Simplex identification, because of both accuracies and mistakes in identifications on the WWW. The Crane Simplex photo doesn't really say 1915 to me, but it is the only identification I have associated with the photo. At any rate, the rear deck with the spare tire seems to accord with the mystery car and the Simplex, however the windshield does not compare at all. The construction of the windshield on the mystery car is most definitely unique.
I have seen photos before where the negative has been printed back to front and the caption added later - which just adds to the confusion.
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4 hours ago, ron hausmann said:
It’s not a seat drawer as a Kissel or Paige would have. That door is likely for golf club stowage. I’m not aware that Stutz ever used a side-seat configuration as Kissel, Paige, or Pilot did. Quite rare. And dumb.
Ron Hausmann P.E.
It was suggested elsewhere that it was a seat drawer because of the foot rest on the running board.
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3 hours ago, TexRiv_63 said:
when I posted this back in 2018 I was amazed that there were so many early V-12 cars built. If you scroll down in my post you will see a distributor that is a duplicate of the picture you posted.
Yes that was why I posted the link.
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13 hours ago, ron hausmann said:
Definitely NOT a Kissel. Cowl, running board, side door, windshield definitely not. Ron Hausmann
And of course it can't be a Stutz because it has left hand drive.
Is it possible the negative was printed back to front? What side does the Stutz have its mother-in-law seat?
Is that a custom steering wheel??
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So far I have not found what valve actuating system the Weidely V12 used.
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Coincidentally this photo came up today on a facebook page. Most likely a UK built Ford truck, and possibly four cylinder powered. I first thought it was a Model 7V (which was V8 powered) - see link for reference - but the radiator looks more like the BB. The first time I have seen a cab-over BB.
Fordson Thames 7V | Classic Cars Wiki | Fandom
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I am not a Ford person but I have heard in the past that CLAAS header engines - back in the day I guess - were update Ford As, and some cars were updated with them.
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1 hour ago, edinmass said:
Always wanted a mid 20’s Sunbeam Twin Cam Six............more interesting than a WO Bentley.......and fifty times more rare.......
The lower photo here is, I think, the 1922 TT Sunbeam which had a long history in New Zealand. I recall seeing it being worked on in a workshop in Fairlie about 1979 when an earlier owner had it. It is a much earlier, and completely different engine to the later twin cam. The earlier engine is an in line eight, the later one a six. Sunbeam TT Pair | Auto Restorations Ltd
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A Cunningham(?) with a Scripps-Booth at right rear.
So far I have not found any more from that event. The photos are from the Library of Congress and more searching might find more.
Weirdly the photos here are on a Flickr page and are spread amongst a whole lot taken at a actors fundraising event.
Ruth McDonald (LOC) | Bain News Service,, publisher. Ruth Mc… | Flickr
Off topic but among that bunch of photos taken at the actors event in 2013 was this one which reminded me of another one posted somewhere which went a long way towards explaining the difference between the 289 and 427 Cobras.
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Another unidentified one from Sheepshead Bay - The hubcap suggests maybe Oldsmobile??
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Another one from the Automobile Fashion Show at Sheepshead Bay. Unfortunately the photo is too small to blow up.
This may or may not be some help -
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Another one from the same event. What is the car - a Winton maybe?
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25 minutes ago, junkyardjeff said:
I thought they were made but can only find pictures of the four in trucks so were they actually made, going to build a model of one and would like to see pictures of one in a car so I can try to make it look correct.
The production figures per body style are quoted in The Standard Catalog, the total was about 2,000.
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A photo posted on a facebook page captioned "Woman sitting sidesaddle on a Ford roadster, 1925".
The car is certainly not a Ford but even though I am sure I have seen photos of a similar car with that distinctive mounting for the spare wire wheel I can't recall what it is.
Could it be a Stutz? It looks to be too long in the wheelbase to be a Stutz though.
I found this pic while researching this - a white knuckle ride?
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An earlier photo of the Desbois family. As their later car was American I wonder if this one was too. Not much to go on - maybe Overland?
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A family in France with their, presumably new, 1929 Nash Standard Six. The woman on the right, the grandmother of Bruno Desbois who posted the photo, went by the imposing name of Henriette Feuquer-Granghon.
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3 hours ago, edinmass said:
An kids not wanting to get their hands dirty today. No one wants to do real work in this country anymore.
True to some extent. So many of the intelligent ones want to be lawyers or IT geeks - as noted they don't want to get their hands dirty. Another symptom seems to the general worldwide shortage of drivers in the transport industry.
I have probably noted this here before but my two sons, now 23 and 25, grew up riding in the back of the 1929 Plymouth. That, along with my small accumulation of cars helped. They are both intelligent enough to have gone to university but wanted to work with their hands. The younger one is now a qualified coachbuilder working at a restoration business and the other a mechanic at an old car repair shop. Old cars are their hobby as well though most of what they have date from the 1970s and '80s - still long before they were born. They are fortunate we have space here. Currently there are nearly 30 cars in 'death row' the parts accumulation area. Add to that the frequent flow in and out of the property of other peoples' stuff. The older son has four of other peoples' cars here waiting for him to do work on. Add to that he has several of his own projects on the go. He decided he needed to change the diff ratio in his 1992 Mitsubishi Pajero - supposedly his daily driver - but has discovered there were three different ratios available and three different size housings. He now has the right bits, and just needs to reassemble it. He has enough projects to last him for years, the latest a 1946 Nash Ambassador - rare in right hand drive - the price was right (Free) but it meant three 400 mile round trips - one still to do. The previous owners are a three generation car nut family but the Ambassador is one that was given up on 20 years ago. There are the remains of three cars and lots of extra parts.
Being a few miles out of town we are often the the meeting point for runs, and the place where stuff gets put that others don't have quite enough room for. One of their friends has a family block of land about 30 miles away where there are many more 'parts cars'.
There is no shortage of younger car 'enthusiasts' but the majority have no skills and are only interested in driving 'hoon' cars - gathering in large numbers in the early hours of the morning and doing 'skids'. Commonly known here as 'boy racers', they are a menace, leaving black marks and lots of mess on the road, usually on secondary main roads and in industrial areas, and keeping neighbours awake. Cars are cheap and available, unlike the situation here 50 years ago, and if something breaks they will just go and buy another one.
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9 hours ago, Wayne R said:
nzcarnerd,---Thank you for posting that wonderful photo of the Bentley,
sorry i should have spent more time and ,perhaps photo of any information placard
there.--Also alsancle for that information---really interesting.
It was just coincidence that it appeared on a facebook page the same day.
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1 hour ago, edinmass said:
Thats easy......with good tin and wood, we would have assembled all the missing pieces and tried to sell it as a project. A two door car that is a project will still sell at the right price. We recently parted out a very solid 1932 sedan. The body and fenders went to a family that had a car with bad wood and some rust........they are swapping bodies, and then selling their original. There are a lot of Pierce Arrow cars......well over 2500. Fact is half today are now probably parts or dead end projects. The supply of finished cars is large enough to keep the market saturated.......that goes ten times for Cadillac and Packard.......and also for Lincoln. Fellas.....there is NO SHORTAGE OF CARS, just a shortage of turn key cars.
Your comment re surviving numbers is interesting. In comparison Studebakers of the 1928-33 era which were built in much greater numbers have not survived to the same extent, especially cars that are not four door sedans. I am sure the same is true of other mid price cars - such as the larger Grahams and Reos and others. I am sure there are probably quite a few projects out there but, as has been noted by others, the economics don't stack up.
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7 minutes ago, studerex said:
Post some photos and I will identify.
Add to that pics of the stamped engine serial number and casting numbers.
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This car - which looks to be something 'sporting' although I don't know what it is - is fitted with a 'System Autogaz' - some kind of gas produced system. Odd to see something like that in 'peacetime'. The date looks to be 1920s.
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Reminiscent of the Reeves Octoauto of 20 years earlier?
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Period images to relieve some of the stress
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Is that steering wheel a regular production item or a 'special'? It appears that 'cross tube' is what supports the two inner half circles. I wonder what the shiny fitting clamped the to column is holding.
It is unfortunate that all of these photos from that Auto Fashion Show are quite low res and can't be blown up much.
Did you have any thoughts on the four seater on disc wheels and what look to be Oldsmobile hubcaps?
Looking at the group photo of the girls on the big wire-wheeled Winton there seems to have been no concern about the 'scruffy' ground.