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  1. An interesting narrative shared to a facebook page by Varun Coutinho. Originally posted on a family historical page. Credit for all of this goes to Varun, I am just passing it on.

     

    "George H. Frost (born 1890-died 1953) sits at the wheel while his future wife Pearl Robinson sits beside him. In the back one of his brothers Burton Hunt or Ebenezer Theodore sits between two unidentified ladies. George is the son of William H. Frost who founded the Smiths Falls Malleable Iron Works. The car is a 'Pullman Touring Car' built by the York Motor Car Company, York Pennsylvania. The company's motto was 'not only the best at the price but best at any price' was a coy comparison to the quality and luxury of the famous Pullman Sleeping Train Cars (the two entities were not related). The cost of the car in 1910 was a whopping $2,000.00 ($125,000.00 in 2014 dollars) compared to the Model T Ford touring car at $500.00. They did not live up to their luxury claim as they were notorious for mechanical troubles and ceased operations in 1917 after only 12 years in business.
    The second picture shows the car on the side of a road with a flat tire. George H. Frost is seen leaning against the vehicle while the other people are unknown. Both pictures are dated 1910 and provided by his granddaughter, Joanne Frost."

     

    As an aside note how the 'top boot' - if that is the right term - on the first car is secured by a strap the rear of the frame, rather than to the body.

     

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    Unfortunately the original writer's identification of the cars is incorrect - doesn't that happen so often with amateur (or even professional) historical stuff?

     

    The first car is actually a 1909 Pennsylvania Type C 50 hp (114" wheelbase) - 

     

    May be an image of text that says 'MOTOR AGE Some P ENNSYLVAN People Are Satisfied With Any Old Look at their clothes, their horses and their houses Pennsylvania Cars are built for discriminating buyers Thing 15 Type c Touring Car or Baby Tonneau, $3000 Including Bosch Magneto and Gas Tank PENNSYLVANIA AUTO MOTOR cO., Bryn Mawr, Pa.'

     

    And the second car is a circa 1907-08 Russell, built in Toronto, Canada - 

     

    May be an image of car and outdoors

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  2. 10 minutes ago, 8E45E said:

    It appears your rear window unzips and folds down in the Studebaker.  I wonder if the DeVaux has a fixed glass rear window.

     

    Craig

    In a word - yes. This photo is from when the car was for sale last year. It has a 'plastic' rear window although the original was glass with a steel frame. It came with the car and I have it here in my office - 

     

     

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    As an aside there was thread on a facebook page earlier this year by a guy restoring a similar era Rolls-Royce with a similar rear window. He fitted his with zips which I think are not correct for the period. I don't know whether those domes on mine are period correct.

     

    EDIT - this photo is of the interior of the only other surviving GE cabriolet, restored in the US some years ago. It is probably more 'correct' than mine, which was done in the 1980s.

     

     

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  3. 13 minutes ago, keiser31 said:

    I'm going with 1931 DeVaux for the cabriolet.

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    Edit - btw from a look at the De Vaux article in The Standard Catalog the model is a Custom Coupe, which suggests the top may not fold?? 

     

    Much like my Studebaker - which the factory referred to as a cabriolet even though the top was fixed - 

     

    I think whereas the Studebaker's roof is 'soft', the De Vaux coupe probably has a 'hard' roof though and the irons are for show.

     

     

     

     

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  4. 4 hours ago, LCK81403 said:

    We may never know definitively what the Samoa car is.  The small door handle is not seen as clearly defined as the larger and more comparative features of a 1931 Plymouth and '31 DeSoto.  The Plymouth has a much more pronounced radiator shell than the Samoa car, and the hood louvers of the Plymouth extend more along the length of the hood than the Samoa car.  Perhaps I am not understand something in the imagery, but the Samoa car still looks way more DeSoto and Plymouth.

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    My reasons for suggesting 1931 Pontiac were - the suggestion of a slight vee in the radiator shell, the position of the hood louvres, and the dome hubcaps. I know it doesn't have the fender lamps. The position of the door handle means it is probably not a Pontiac though - May be an image of car and outdoors

  5. 1 hour ago, nzcarnerd said:

    A couple of early post cards from New Zealand - not very large unfortunately.  I think the car in the earlier pic is an early Darracq but the other one with the plate RO9 is a mystery, although I am fairly certain it is American. I have another photo of it somewhere - somewhere -but still looking. Posting these now as I hope someone may have a clue to its identity, while I hunt for a better version.

     

     

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    I knew I had posted pics of RO9 before -just took a little searching -  

     

  6. A couple of early post cards from New Zealand - not very large unfortunately.  I think the car in the earlier pic is an early Darracq but the other one with the plate RO9 is a mystery, although I am fairly certain it is American. I have another photo of it somewhere - somewhere -but still looking. Posting these now as I hope someone may have a clue to its identity, while I hunt for a better version.

     

     

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    nz cars L Redwood Hongis track Rotorua RO9 (2).jpg

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