['25 Nash Touring - back to the road we go, with a twist!]

15 hours ago, JFranklin said:

And the 4 cylinder one above only has two! 

Yes, I did read that. Unusual for a larger four. Some of the small English and European cars had that feature but they were mostly very small.

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Marine Parade, Wairoa, New Zealand in the early 1920s. Looks to be an early Dodge in the street and an early 1920s Willys-Knight parked behind the Ford.

 

Marine Parade actually runs along the side of the river - 😀

 

 

 

A recent (May 2019) view from streetview. Looks to be an early morning shot which would explain the lack of traffic.

 

['25 Nash Touring - back to the road we go, with a twist!]

Something I did not know until I came across this article recently was that the very early Nash six engines only had three main bearings.  Nash engines | Allpar Forums

[1955 Buick Century 4 door tire size]

235/70 is 9.3" wide - 235/70R15 Tires (tiresize.com)

 

The original size is 7.60 x 15 - 7.62" wide - one of many options - Coker Tire 700304 Coker American Classic Collector Radial Tires | Summit Racing

[ID a radiator]

It may have a date stamped on the inside of the shell?? My 1926 Pontiac one does. It also has date tag on the top tank.

[Sacrificed to run water well diggers...]

Model 28-26 on the id plate says 1928 Standard two door coupe. The job number 7590 confirms that.

 

The 1498630 serial number is for a 1926 Standard. I guess the circle S stamp is for AO Smith the chassis maker?

[1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire Jay Leno's Garage]

1 hour ago, jensenracing77 said:

Nope! I am 47 and was not there so I know, lol. Just kidding.... All I can go by are the GM Heritage center documents. There are documents that you could purchase a Jetfire early April and there is no document like this for the turbo Corvair. The only dated documents is that production started in April for the Corvair Spyder turbo. I have to assume that the Jetfire was first to purchase because the production started to late for the chevy to be sold early April. All that said, From what I understand, the Corvair Spyder concept/prototype was at the auto shows a couple months before the Jetfire prototype was. If someone can find documents to prove otherwise I would love to know about them. I sure have an open mind to the subject but at the same time, I want to keep playing this game of who was first for many more years, lol. Adds to the fun

I watched that very enjoyable Jay Leno episode a couple of days ago.  I remember when my daughter was about 13 - she is 27 now - she had teeth braces fitted. We could have bought a perfectly good go-to-work car for the price.

[1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire Jay Leno's Garage]

6 hours ago, Frank DuVal said:

Course a little 63 Monza Spyder coupe...

 

TIFIFY  (There, I fixed it for you). 

 

Trivia, 1962 and 1963 Spyders were an option package on Monzas (turbocharged engine, nameplates, instrumented dash, etc), whereas the 1964 Spyder was a model all to itself, even had 600 as the model designation, Monza still being the 900 series models. So you can tell if a 1964 Corvair was turbocharged just by the VIN. For 62 and 63 you have to see the body plate.

 

Hey, them's fighting words.😁 We were first to show off our stuff. That must have spurred Olds into sending them into production earlier. Lot's of rivalry between divisions.  None of that Chevrolet engines in Oldsmobiles back then!😉   Even Buick and Oldsmobile did not share the 215 cu in V-8.

Oh yes they did - it was a Buick design - although as noted in the wiki article re the Rover V8 the Olds and Buick engines had some important differences - Buick 215cid / Oldsmobile 215 aluminum V8 Engine Identification Guide (britishv8.org)

 

And after being taken over by Rover it came in a gazillion different variants and used in many cars - Rover V8 engine - Wikipedia

 

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2 hours ago, LCK81403 said:

The workman standing beside the car is wearing a particular type of visor cap that reminds of laborers in southern France and northern Italy.  The style of the cap is similar to the "Greek fisherman's" cap, except the visor is too long.  It appears that the workman and another person in the background are involved in road work.  There is a peculiar, tall metal bucket sitting on top of the apparent road surfacing material at the right side of the road.  A bucket like that is generally is carried two or four on a donkey's A-frame.  Such a bucket could be used to transport nuts and that could possibly mean the large trees are part of a walnut grove.  The location could be France or northern Italy.

I think the BI registration plate suggests the Ford was registered in the Alpes-Maritimes department of France, near the border with Italy, which is consistent with what you says about the workman's cap.

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4 hours ago, hddennis said:

Is the Napier equipped with railroad wheels? Sure looks like it is.

 

Howard Dennis

Yes, he ran it on rails for parts of his journey. He wrote at least one book about his travels. I guess we should look for copies to read.

 

 

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A large American coupe  - from circa 1931-33 maybe? 

 

 

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A photo posted on fb by Dean Zwicker from a batch he bought.

 

Interesting speedster but from the very long wheelbase and the style of the rear hubs I think it may have begun life as a mid teens Locomobile - 

 

 

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This car is not a mystery - it is a circa 1902 (British) Star 12 hp according to the attached article - but has an interesting history - The Silver Bowl: Sometimes a Picture (sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com)

 

 

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I found this photo of an unidentified car on an Australian site.  Supposedly taken in the 1930s, which I guess is possible.

 

Obviously an Oakland but can someone be sure of the model year? My guess is late teens.

 

 

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38 minutes ago, twin6 said:

A pity the hubcap is missing. It is wearing a 1934-35 Buick hood ornament. Maybe it is a 1930 or '31 big Buick??

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37 minutes ago, twin6 said:

I guess this is a different Russ Collins but more well known to a later generation -  😀 - NHRA Motorcycle Pioneer Russ Collins Dies - My Life at Speed

 

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I stumbled over this one on Flickr while looking for something else.  A photo from the National Library of Ireland.

 

Supposedly a spectator driving a 'panhard' (sic) arriving for the 1903 Gordon-Bennett race in Ireland but I think it is actually Charles Glidden and his wife and companions in the 1902 Napier as part of their round the world trip.

 

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31 minutes ago, 1912Staver said:

I think these are just like most 3 piece rims . A main rim,  that in this case attaches directly to the wheel felloe , a side ring and a lock ring . The majority of rims from around this time up to about the mid teens were similar in principal. But most are detachable as well unlike these ones. If you look in Dykes there is a illustration showing Firestone rims . I believe they call this type the  " Type A ".

 

I was puzzled because the out ring looks to be one-piece. I wonder how they are fitted and what secures them. 

 

The lock rings on the Kelsey-Hayes wires on my 1929 Studebaker are split, and effectively held in place by the tyre. A more common, obviously later, system I think

 

 

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A great 1911 photo from Iowa of an Everett car. Photo credit - The State Historical Society of Iowa.

 

How does that removeable outer rim system work?

 

 

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A colourised photo from Western Australia taken in the 1920s.

 

What is the truck?

 

 

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10 hours ago, 8E45E said:

A 1921 in Washington state.

Note the hood louvres are different compared to the original mystery car.

 

[Found this photo in Grandpa's photo album]

10 hours ago, Oldtech said:

I am going more by the wheel / axel type and general build. The first pic has no cowl lghts, the second is a different car. I wouldn't put any money on my guess tho. 

The mystery roadster is not Buick-based I think because Buicks of that era have only eight hub bolts and the mystery car has 12.

[Build Information - Chrysler]

Some photos of the car and particularly of its various identifying numbers might help.

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5 hours ago, DLynskey said:

To get back to this photo, the unique radiator shape, split running boards and toolbox set into the fender certainly look like the 1913 Oakland below. The cowl lights are also similar but the cowl itself is not. 

 

 

 

 

Don

 

 

I resorted to my copy of 75 Years of Pontiac Oakland for answers but even then I couldn't come up with a definitive answer as to when there was a change of cowl style.

 

The white car in these photos appears to be the 'other' body style available for the big six - a 'close-coupled four passenger touring'. As typical of the era the four passenger body ends about level with the rear edge of the rear tyre and the seven passenger body extends further to the rear.

 

There was supposedly another larger model, on a 138" wheelbase with a 445 cid engine in 1913-14 (compared with the 130" wheelbase and 389 cid engine of the 6-60) but now I am confused and don't know whether we have examples of both models on this page or not.

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1 minute ago, Larry Schramm said:

 Here is a litho of the same gas station that hangs in our back hall.  We bought the print about 45 years ago at the Sloan Museum Summer Auto Fair in Flint.  The original I believe hung in the Buick main office when it was located in Flint on Hamilton Ave.

I notice in the 'original'  - if it is such - b/w photo the word Flint is not on the wall.