db17 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone would know of a replacement bearing for wheel axle hubs for a 1917 Dodge Touring Car. As we all know, Timkin, part # 288 cone, 284 cup for rear hub are not available anymore. My rear bearings are no good and need replacing, any Ideas or suggestions? Thanks!! If anyone is interested here is a chart I made for needed bearings for an early Dodge, full floating axle. [TABLE=width: 545]<colgroup><col><col><col></colgroup><tbody>[TR][TD][/TD][TD][/TD][TD][/TD][/TR][TR][TD]dodge Part #[/TD][TD]Timkin Part #[/TD][TD]appilcation[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]J249[/TD][TD]1751 Cone[/TD][TD]F-wheel outer[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]J245[/TD][TD]1730 cup[/TD][TD]F-wheel outer[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]J268[/TD][TD]256 cone[/TD][TD]F-wheel inner[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]J247 [/TD][TD]2530 cup[/TD][TD]F-Wheel inner[/TD][/TR][TR][TD] [/TD][TD][/TD][TD] [/TD][/TR][TR][TD]J1212[/TD][TD]288 cone (x2)[/TD][TD]R-wheel outer[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]J1161[/TD][TD]284 cup (x2)[/TD][TD]R-wheel outer[/TD][/TR][TR][TD] [/TD][TD][/TD][TD] [/TD][/TR][TR][TD]R248[/TD][TD]365 cone[/TD][TD]Differintial r-hand[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]R-244[/TD][TD]363 cup[/TD][TD]Differintial r-hand[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]R-248[/TD][TD]365 cone[/TD][TD]Differintial L-hand[/TD][/TR][TR][TD] R-244 [/TD][TD] 363 cup [/TD][TD]Differential L-hand [/TD][/TR][TR][TD] [/TD][TD][/TD][TD] [/TD][/TR][TR][TD]R251[/TD][TD]255 cone[/TD][TD]propeller shaft bearing [/TD][/TR][TR][TD]R247[/TD][TD]2530 cup[/TD][TD]propeller shaft bearing [/TD][/TR][TR][TD]R248[/TD][TD]365 cone[/TD][TD]differential bearing[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]R244[/TD][TD]363 cup[/TD][TD]differential bearing[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]R10245[/TD][TD]3191E cone[/TD][TD]axle drive pinion bearing[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]R246[/TD][TD]3120 cup [/TD][TD]axle drive pinion bearing[/TD][/TR][TR][TD][/TD][TD][/TD][TD][/TD][/TR][TR][TD][/TD][TD][/TD][TD][/TD][/TR][TR][TD]B4034[/TD][TD] [/TD][TD]flywheel bearing[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]B4660[/TD][TD][/TD][TD]clutch release bearing[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]B11063[/TD][TD][/TD][TD]clutch shaft[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]B4662[/TD][TD] [/TD][TD]clutch release race rear[/TD][/TR]</tbody>[/TABLE] Edited September 21, 2014 by db17 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 You need to find a progressive size listing from someone or on line.Naturally you will need to know all the dimensions including the overall length of the assembled bearing although on a spindle there is a little leeway.You might find the dimensions on line as well for the part numbers above.I have access to an a very old progressive list.I'll email a reminder to myself to see what I can come up with....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mribbich@wi.rr.com Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 [h=1]Olcar Bearing Co.[/h]Phone: (910) 693-3324Fax: (910) 693-1943135 James Creek Rd, Southern Pines, NC 28387-6833 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db17 Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 Thanks for the phone numbers and the info on the progressive list. I'l try both ways and see what I come up with.One of these days I'll have this car running. Thanks again for the help and advise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I checked the 1960 Timken progressive size book and came up with nothing...... If you can get accurate dimensions of the cup OD, cone ID and the overall length (thickness) of the bearing in it's assembled position it should be pretty easy to find a suitable replacement for you....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Scafani Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 the 288 timkin bearing was only used for this application. There is no replacement. Several years ago King bearing had some listed at $250.00 each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I'm still interested in skinning the cat.It wouldn't be the first one....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db17 Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 Thanks for the replies.The problem I have is that the rear wheel bearing tighten bolt has been tighten so mush that the edge of the drum has cut though part of the oil tube behind the wheel. I'm afraid the bearings are so worn out I won't get an accurate measurement of the cone or bearing. Has anyone ever thought of having the hubs machined to fit a more available bearing? Just a thought??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Having worked at and owned the family machine shop for much of my life that thought always crosses my mind........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db17 Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Broke down and got all four bearings at Myers. Now I need to find is a, rear wheel bearing grease retainer, J 2821 or J 2823. One has a curved outer edge the other has a straight edge. I have one of each I guess I could them. They are replacements for each other. Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db17 Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 Hi everyone. I received all four new bearing for my rear hub from Meyers. They seen to be pretty close to the originals by narrower. Has anyone tried using these bearing? If anyone has, how did they work? I'm concerned because when you adjust the wheel bearing nut it will draw the drum against the back plate. This in turn will move the drum open edge back toward the axles oil tube and brake assembly. The reason I'm replacing the bearings in the first place is because the wheel bearing adjustment nut had been tightened so much that the drums edge had actually cut the oil tube in half. Any help will be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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