WHAT IS IT?

I AM TRYING TO BUY THIS CHRYSLER AN FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS, BEST I COULD FIND ONLINE

IS ITS AROUND 1960 I PULLED THE RUBBER BACK ON THE DOORS AND IT LOOKS FACTORY

(NOT CHOPPED OR MODIFIED) ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT

THANKS, PAUL

It looks like a 1960 New Yorker, but it also looks like someone did some shortening to the roof line...its too short to look like its production.....

BvR

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Gee, take the LONG Chrysler chassis for '60, and put the shortest possible greenhouse on it...

Never saw such an animal... smallest "official" Chrysler cabin was the 2dr HT...(Chrysler did not offer any 2dr "post" sedans for '60)

Hope you can get it, also hope it has a title...

Does it still have a floor in the trunk ?

I'm with the Baron - looks like a '60 Chrysler - if the grille is a series of horizontal slats, recessed into a wide moulding (looks "frenched"), then it's either a Saratoga or NYer... if it has a mesh grille, that would suggest a Windsor. Also, the Nyer & S'toga rode a 126" WB, the Windsor rode a 122" WB.

Even if you don't wind up with the car, it would be neat to learn its history, if you can...

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Wow, I never seen one, but I would love to know what the result is.

Any more pics?

I'm familiar with this type of butchery, but it usually involves shortening the entire body, not just the greenhouse. For some reason, 1960 Plymouths seem to be the usual victims of this brand of "cutomizing".

Good luck buying it but, unless the car has some real "history" associated with it, you may end up owning it for a long, long time . . .

Thanks all for the info, I thought it was chopped having done so myself on sevral street rods, who ever did it, did a great job welds under door rubber and what I could see look factory including the upolstery, and it does have the NY grill and horse, could it have been a factory concept car? There doesn't appear to be any rust, I am going back to look a little closer and take more pics. My son is a Chrysler Dealer Tech for a family dealership thats been around sinse the 40s and nobody there had ever seen such a thing, if anything now I need to know more about this thing,

Thanks,Paul

P.S. are 60s NY hard to find (for restoring)

It looks like the Batmobile----would like to know more history--------Good Luck

I see you're in California?

Probably one of the better parts of the country to hope to find '60-'62 Chryslers, if they haven't all been scrapped for "pollution credits"...

These cars had big issues with rust, particularly the trunk lip ( where the weather strip is glued), the trunk floor, rear quarters, etc.

There aren't many nice ones left in "salt country" ( NE US), unless they've been summer-driver garage queens...

According to Standard Catalog of Chrysler, there were about 20,000 New Yorkers produced for 1960, combining all body types... the Saratoga (big chassis, smaller Windsor engine) was actually "rarer" at about 15,000 units. The PC-1 Windsor ( the "small" Chrysler) had the highest numbers, at about 40,000 units...

Rarest are the 300 F (of course), only 964 Hardtops, and 248 convertibles...

Mechanical parts are readily available, sheet metal and trim is another story: have to find NOS or a donor car...

If this car is NOT riding either the 126" or 122" wheelbase, then it would seem that the chassis has been shortened ( or legnthened?), in either case, I would inspect the car VERY carefully for structural integrity, as this is a unit-body car...

If they shortened the green-house that much, it would seem that they had to extend the trunk opening and deck lid forward... like they did with Business Coupes in the '40s... ambitious mods, for sure...

Post more pics if you can...

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I have a couple more pics

here is another

That is a very unique vehicle. I would like to know more about it. It really resembles the business coupes of the 40's & 50's. Have you bought it yet?

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If you are NOT going to buy the car I would be interested----Thank You

I think you've struck gold... at least for the seller, pcorbisiero!

If it looks as good cleaned up as it looks now, what a hot car it will be. Do you know anything about engine and mechanicals? It's like you've unearthed another Batmobile, although with just one "bubble."

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My son is a Chrysler Dealer Tech for a family dealership thats been around sinse the 40s...</div></div> This may be a really good resource for information, if any exists. See if they have any access to Chrysler archives, get the VIN number off the car, and check for ownership history.

While you're at it, I'd really like to know if any '58 Plymouth Fury's were special ordered with red paint. According to the Stephen King novel, "Christine" was such a car. Of course, all Fury cars of that year were beige with gold anodized trim--but if they did a one-off special order, you'd be the proud discoverer of the "real Christine."

Just a thought... it seems you've already made an important MOPAR discovery--if only a talented Chrysler Customizer! Even if it's a custom job, the work looks old enough, and "stock" enough, to have historical value.

52er: If you dont want it I would be interested

This car is not a factory prototype, show car, etc. It is a customized vehicle by someone. If you get a chance to open the hood look for the data tag. On the 1960-61 Chryslers it was usually attached to the driver's door post, at the top just below the windshield. Let us know the three digits under either MDL, BT, or something similar.

"Christine" was not a real car. If you read the novel you would know the 1958 "Fury" that Mr. King claimed was Christine was a red 4-door sedan with interior door locks controlleed by knobs at the bottom edge of the door windows. As any Mopar fan can tell you, the 1956-58 Fury came only as a 2-door hardtop and only in beige. Also, the front doors on 1956-61 Mopar products locked on the inside by pushing the inside door handle forward. And the rear doors on 1957-61 models had a small lever just below the door window.

Bill

Vancouver, BC

Okay, these photos reveal a lot more...

It would appear that this was a 2dr HT that had its roof cut-off, shortened at the front, where it meets the windshield header, and the whole greenhouse/back-light moved forward. The space between the trunk opening annd new location of the back-light was simply filled-in. The rear windows ( with their chromed frames) were adapted to fit what little space was left between the door glass and C-pillar.

Interesting. If the work was done neatly and has not compromised the structural integrity of the car ( still not sure how chopping and relocating the roof might have affected body stregnth...), it would be a neat project/show car, but who know's what the "value" might be...

Don't pay too much for it unless there's some sort of special history, backed-up with documentation.

And do check VERY carefully for cancer/rust underneath... even "desert" examples of these '60-'62 Chryslers have some rust...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Christine" was not a real car.</div></div> O for cryin' out loud! Thanks for setting me straight. I could tell you about 40 more things about the Belvedere 2-door hardtops, NOT 4-doors, that were used for the movie cars, and the many other '57 and '58 Plymouths of various configurations that were torn up, but heck, what do I know? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As any Mopar fan can tell you, the 1956-58 Fury came only as a 2-door hardtop and only in beige.</div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Of course, all Fury cars of that year were beige with gold anodized trim--</div></div> What does that say? Any MOPAR fan could tell you, I guess.

"It's only a novel... it's only a movie... it's only make-believe..."

And what if there were a few special-order paint jobs done on Fury cars of that era? Wouldn't that be a little bit interesting to find out?

I might just pass on this one, the guy that owned it is in jail and his elderly mom wanted to sell it now she's kind of changed her mind (hem-hawin) but I am still going to try and get some history on it just for the heck of it.

THANKS for all the replys and info especialy Mr. McMullen and Bill W

Paul

I mentioned that I would be interested---if you have a phone number or info on how to get in touch with this lady it would be appreciated---landersen@mn.rr.com

Hey 52er, I am going down this week some time (its about an hour from me) I will stop by and see if I can get a number.

Paul

Thanks---can you get pics of the interior, trunk, engine compartment---Thanks