1912 buick brass brackets

[Ethain]

Ive been looking at pictures of 1912 buicks which i think my car is and I haven't seen any with brass brackets like mine. Does anyone have any information about them? Thanks.

[Larry Schramm]

I do not recognize them from any of my vehicles of the same era.

 

What did you start with? Pictures?

Edited December 14, 2022 by Larry Schramm (see edit history)

[Ethain]

I bought it from mark freimiller around 3 years ago and i was told it was 1912 model 34. Im not sure myself what year exactly it is or model. Heres a few photos. 

[Larry Schramm]

The radiator is a 1912 because of the emblem. 

 

Here is a page of the original factory records on serial & engine numbers for your vintage of car.

 

Hope that helps you with your car.  Nice looking chassis.  Did you get a body and the rest of the car?

 

 

 

Based on the engine number of 18184 your engine/car might be a 1910.  See below.

 

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[Ethain]

Thanks for the reply. I got 3 wings and that was it. The shell of the radiator was rusted through so i got a brass one made instead. I know its not correct for 1912.

[Larry Schramm]

See changed info above.

 

16 minutes ago, Ethain said:

Thanks for the reply. I got 3 wings and that was it. The shell of the radiator was rusted through so i got a brass one made instead. I know its not correct for 1912.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 14, 2022 by Larry Schramm (see edit history)

[Brian_Heil]

My 1911 Model 33 has the round radiator emblem. 

[Rod Wise]

Ethain,  What is the wheelbase

[Rod Wise]

With that style of gear lever and hand brake lever, which is located inside the body, means it is 1912 or later.  Even 1914.  Being a U.K car it could be a Bedford  Buick on the B25 chassis.  105 inch wheelbase.

[Ethain]

Ive asked about the engine number before and i was told 1910 but the blocks and valve assembly are definitely later. My chassis had the little plate with the chassis number on it taken off it so i dont the year of it. Here is a picture of the gear lever. Here is a bad picture i found on the internet of the car before i purchased it. The wings might help with identifying the model?

[Rod Wise]

The 1912 Model 34 was on a 90.7 inch wheelbase

        1912 model 36   on a 102 inch wheelbase

        1913 Model 24 on a 105 inch wheelbase

        1914 B-24 on a 105 inch wheelbase

[Ethain]

Thank you for the information. Most of the car is 1912 then except for the engine number which is 1910. Still confused about the brass brackets. They are definitely old. Riveted to the chassis so i believe they are original or replaced a very long time ago. Does anyone on here have any early buick speedsters or racers?

[Mark Shaw]

Ethain,

     I sold my 1912 Model 34 Roadster earlier this year.  However, I still have many photos taken during the restoration.

 

For those who want to see it finished:

 

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[Rod Wise]

Ethain

I think your car is a 1913.  It is not a 1912 Model 34, as you can see from Marks car the Model 34 had full eliptic spring on the back, where as yours has 3/4 eliptic. Also the Model 34 had external to the body gear lever and hand brake, where as yours has the internal levers.

It is not a 1912 Model 36 as it also had external gear and brake levers, and the headlamp braket was on the outside of the frame where as yours is on the inside of the frame.

Yours is not  a 1914 B24 as in 1914 the stearing arm ran down the same side of the frame as the stearing wheel. Yours crosses to the opposite side. Which was the case in the 1913  Model 24.

Buick did not use brass spring hangers,  so your were cast in brass/bronze due to wear of the original hangers.

Here is a 1912 Model 36.

 

 

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[Brian_Heil]

I beam front axle with a dip. Not round and not straight. 

 

Crank thru the crossmember not radiator 

 

Round radiator emblem

 

Wheel base

 

These all need to be taken together as you flip thru the pics in 70 Years of Buick book