PHOTOS - Dan Binger - please help identify

[Peter Gariepy]

From: "DANIEL BINGER" DBINGER@worldnet.att.net

To: peterg@aaca.org

Date: 11/28/2002 09:14 AM

Subject: Pictures

Peter,

There have been several pictures on the AACA forum lately that people would like to have identified. I too have a few pictures that I would like to have identified. Could you post these on the forum, Thank you.

I do know these pictures were taken on March 8 or 9, 1908 between Cheyenne and Laramie Wyoming. They are of the New York - Paris race and the winning Thomas Flyer is pictured here. I would like to know the identify of the other cars here. These pictures are part of the Stemson Collection at the Wyoming State Museum. The negatives are on 8X10 plate glass negatives. There are some great photos in this collection.

Dan Binger

The second car is the Thomas. This is at Granite Canyon, Wyoming.

Sherman, Wyoming. The car on the left is a Franklin driven by Elmer Lovejoy who was the pilot for the Thomas from Sherman to Rawlins, Wyoming. He was the Franklin dealer in Laramie and Cheyenne. In the 1890's Lovejoy built the Lovejoy automobile.

The Thomas in is the foreground.

[Chris Paulsen]

The car in the foreground of the first picture is an Oldsmobile.

It is also in the center of the second picture. The car on the right of the second pic is the Thomas. The third picture shows the same Oldsmobile on the left and the Thomas on the right. I can't tell what the car in the background is.

I hope this helps,

Chris

[Guest]

Hey Binger glad to see you back on the forum. Great pictures!!

[1937hd45]

I agree with Chris. The car with the front bumper is an Oldsmobile, the hubcap was a good tip, and the shape of the front fenders.

[D Binger]

Peter,

Thank you for posting the pictures.

Chris and Bob, Thanks for the Olds info.

There are some great pistures of the Thomas if you would like to see them. There are also pictures of the Italian car, a Zust and the French car, a DeDion Boreton.

Dan