John Bloom
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1 hour ago, alsancle said:
So, here is the deal. Many pre-war closed cars are more attractive than the equivalent open car. You can get a better roof line with closed. However, for decades, the mantra that “the top goes down, the price goes up” ruled.
It is interesting how things change. I'm well aware of that thought process of your dad and his generation's views that open cars are what you want, and the closed cars are there to provide parts for the open ones. That does still hold true at some level as evidenced by what you see $ going on at auctions with "apples to apples" comparisons between cars with the main difference being open or closed (740 sedan: 45K, 740 touring:125K, 740 Dual Cowl:225K.....etc......)
After 40 years of being into the hobby, I started drifting into the classic era with more focus and attention about 8 years ago. I "get" the bias for open cars but I see it as the ability to have a closed version of a great car at a value. And as you state AJ, there are just some great looking closed cars out there. I think you have a seperate thread on Victoria bodied cars? I will see about cross posting this Loco photo to it when I find that thread.
As for the REO you have, just perfect lines and proportions. I can't imagine stripping it apart for some other car.
I am a sucker for original long WB coupes. They seem like a great huge rack Buck that has made it through 10 seasons of deer hunting.... ( I'm really happy when those long WB coupes have not been sacrificed and turned into a Conv Coupe or Roadster. )
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It was identified as a 90 Victoria on the photograph. Let me tell you what I don’t have any doubts about, that thing is drop dead gorgeous. So much of the hobby focuses on open cars, and fabulous closed cars can fly under the radar. This thing would gather tons of attention to come rolling onto the lawn someplace.
I like it.
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17 minutes ago, alsancle said:
John, it is clearly mislabeled as it is a 48. I hope it survived but I have never seen a post war picture of it.
I thought that too, based on many features about the car, however when I looked at the loco 90 project listed above in this thread, and saw the treatment of the front part of the cabin with the small side panel windows and the flaring on the side, I doubted myself.
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1 hour ago, edinmass said:
On great cars, it’s never about the money. If you counting dollars close to the vest the deals very seldom work. On some things is life, you just have to write the check or pass……..
This, and also treat everyone you come across with respect and Kindness if possible. So much focus is on the owner of the car, but frequently that isn't the contact or the juice to get the car. That young girl in your third grade class, will call you up later in life when she's in her 40's and liquidating her uncle's estate and remembers you fondly and that you liked "old cars". Or that troubled young adolescent boy that was a patient in your pediatric practice, and you believed in him and treated (and mentored him) for many years(and then forgot about him)....and he matured and achieved tremendous business success and told his parents to contact "doc" when they finally decided to give up their classic big iron car (hidden away) and sell to the physician who helped turn their son around.
I am not a player in either of those two stories but observed from the sidelines as both played out recently and I was privy to the details. You never know what person you come across in life may be the contact or catalyst for an interesting car coming out into the light. Always makes for a good story to tell forever.
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Just ran across this photo of a Loco 90 Victoria. What a great looking car. Wondering if it survived? Anyone recognize it?
The photo is labeled as from San Francisco circa 1930's.
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Beautiful car. Share some details and more pictures and a price.
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Handsome ride! Remember the details of your drive today, something to day dream about on cold winter days.
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Ted, I saw the first post of the dirty chassis and read what you said you were going to do. I smiled over my cup of coffee at the audacity of your plan........................then I scrolled down and saw what you've done. I'm speechless. I'll be checking in on this thread. Press On and thanks for sharing. When I'm lazy and can't get motivated to do anything productive with my cars, I'll take a quick glance at this from time to time to motivate me.
Just great stuff.
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16 minutes ago, Steve_Mack_CT said:
So none are 100% which would be easier to accomplish for sure with one less but I don't want one less... 😁
My kinda guy.
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19 hours ago, MetroPetro said:
Now there's my dream girl. Even with her face turned away and a grainy photo I see her Beauty....
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I was struck by the irony of the YouTube video by the host on this car. A significant portion of the video was him pitching "Better Help" a counseling/Mental Health site. I always thought of symbiotic marketing within the Hobby being "Hagerty, Coker, Backyard Buddy, Hemmings, Mecum, etc.......... How did I miss this one? There is no better positioned company to advertise on a classic car forum than one that treats Mental health Problem.
Cursing myself that I didn't think of this first and run with it.
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Pretty cool car. I’m not looking for one, I don’t have the room for it, and it would be foolish to dedicate any time towards this with all of the other things that need my time.. so it made me happy when I saw it was in California, a long ways away from me.
that price seems overly optimistic, but assuming reality forces a significant price drop, somebody will probably have a big grin on their face when they pick this up.
cool brass projects just grab your eye.
this is the baby series 42, 112 inch WB
they made a series 55 this year, a big beast of a car 446 in displacement on a 139 in WB. I love to see one of those.
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I look at real estate a lot (residential and commercial). One thing I like about it is the ability to somewhat ignore "asking price" or "list price". You can typically find out at what price did the home/land/building change hands. That is the true assesment of worth, where buyer and seller met and agreed on the value and the sale was made.
so many people in pricing a car look at the usual suspects for listing (Hemmings, Ebay buy it now, etc......). Those prices may be relevant, but there are a lot of dreamers out there. Auctions frequently list the sale price and that is helpful (although there are games being played in that method of selling as well).
I see so many cars for sale with unrealistic prices. That same car sits forever, still listed, at a price no one will pay. Don't let that guide you in trying to figure out a fair price. look at the sold price for the most accurate gauge of market value.
As for this car, goodluck, there are probably few comps.
Surely there is an old ambulance retired guy who would fall in love with it at the right price......you only need one of those guys to move it along.
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I have received issue #7. The description on the cover of the content has me looking forward to digging in and reading some of it this weekend.
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Not 40, 40 had the small waterfall side grill accents book casing the main radiator grill
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Apparently, the trim tag clearly says 1083, so the wheelbase and the displacement of the straight eight are wrong from how it was advertised. It wouldn’t be too difficult to put a tape between the axles and then you’d know for sure.
1083= Special Eight
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https://hymanltd.com/vehicles/5901-1932-nash-ambassador-8-convertible-sedan/
here is the link to this car when Mark Hyman sold it. The headline of the listing calls it an Ambassador, but it is specifically described as An Advanced Eight in the write up.
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1 minute ago, alsancle said:
This is the Advanced Eight that was part of the Guyton collection.
Are there by chance any photos of the trim tag of this car? I suspect is is a 1090 series.
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If you were going to fake a trim tag, you wouldn’t put a junior less prestigious one, on a longer wheelbase more valuable senior car.
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18 minutes ago, alsancle said:
If it was an appropriate color it would have a lot of potential. What I really want to know if it is an Ambassador or an Advanced Eight.
AJ, the trim tag confuses me. The data base I use shows the following:
the Ambassador with the 322 and 142 WB wasn’t offered in a conv sedan
the advanced 8 with 322 and 133 W BHad a conv sedan, but was a 1090 series
This looks like a special 8, smaller 260 8 with 128 WB and trim tags with 1080 series which matches the tag on fire wall.
maybe the data base is incorrect?
Ambassador and Advanced 8 show model numbers with a 1090 series. Different from the one posted.
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This car has issues and I don’t care for the color, but I like it. On second thought, For 7,500 or less, I love it.
I predict it will be gone very shortly.
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47 minutes ago, TerryB said:
Hmmm…..I wonder what happens at 36mph…..
Flux capacitor kicks in.
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7 minutes ago, Bloo said:
Simichrome (yes, the spelling is correct) is a metal polish made by Happich of Germany. It is very effective on stainless and several other metals. Find it online, or locally in USA at motorcycle shops. Highly recommended.
Think twice about polishing any stamped aluminum. As @Littlestown Mike mentioned it is usually anodized, but not just a normal anodizing process. Normal anodizing has a matte finish. Stamped aluminum auto trim parts usually went through an anodizing process called "Brite Dip". This is much brighter than simply polishing the aluminum, so don't strip and polish parts that already look good. Also, bare aluminum oxidizes instantly in air, so it will not stay polished. I went down the rabbit hole about Brite Dip a few years ago. The details escape me right now, but as I understand it anodizing is pretty simple and can even be done at home on small parts, but Brite DIp is extremely expensive to set up and has poisonous chemicals to deal with, environmental impact, and so on. Based on what I read then, I doubt it is possible to get Brite Dip done today even in China. If someone knows different, please post.
@Deadpurpledog sorry, to just see this but glad Bloo jumped in and gave more information. I have used it for years, but the impact it had on the headlights of my Packard has me singing its praises to friends. Here is a link on Amazon, not as expensive as I remembered it. And again, a little goes a long way.
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I am a fan of simichrome after you clean it. It is expensive but a little goes a long way.
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Classics Still “Undiscovered?”
in "Not Mine" Automobiles For Sale
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Frequently the story is as great or greater than the car. I marvel at how often I hear a story that leads to a great car changing hands, and a key fact about how it happened is something crazy and unlikely to happen with million to one odds.