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49 minutes ago, MrEarl said:
may I ask what criteria they will be judged against then? Anything resembling “as delivered” or what? What “”unique judging” will be used? I think it would help owners and be useful to know before registering in order to know what class to enter or whether to enter period.
The modified class should be for modified cars
The regular classes would be for authentically correct cars.
The "unique" phrase was more an indication that it is NOT AACA or BCA 400pt judging than it is anything particularly special.
I'm still finalizing the exact nature of how we will conduct the judging but for the regular classes it would be authenticity and condition based, for Survival class authenticity and preservation of original features based, for Modified class condition and degree/skill of modification.
In my opinion Modified class is always the hardest to judge as it can be the most subjective and hardest to create an objective judging format.
Does that answer your question because keep in mind we have to complete judging in a 2 hour period with a potentially limited amount of volunteer judging teams. Respectfully I am not willing to make the Buick judging overly complex for that reason.
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1 hour ago, dship said:
Lamar, as stated per Brian previously.
what he said...
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7 hours ago, MrEarl said:
Will there be an area for Display Only
The whole showfield is a display 🙂, but in this case a car is registered for the judged show there is no driven or display distinction. If you don't want to be judged, close the hood and lock the car and go enjoy the rest of the Buicks.
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This was noted in the other thread but wanted to highlight it here as well.
Judging will take place on July 3rd at the Auburn Buick Celebration. Please note that we will not be using BCA, AACA or any other club judging programs for this event. Our judging will be unique to this show. All Buicks must be on the show field by 9AM for the start of judging and complete by 11AM. Judging will be conducted by a judging team per class and 3 vehicles per class will be selected for a class award. There will also be special recognition awards for various categories (e.g. Outstanding Pre-War, Post-War, etc.), these cars will be selected by a distinct judging team from any class team and who will look at all Buicks on the show field. At 2:30PM on the show field we will recognize the winners and distribute the awards at this time (COVID restrictions will dictate how we actually do this). The AACA BBQ dinner will follow as per the schedule and AACA’s awards will follow that.
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28 minutes ago, Steve Moskowitz said:
No, John this is the beauty of the event which we have done for several years with other groups. Join in the fun and show with the Buick guys but you do have to register with them, however, if you want to take advantage of the 1/2 year AACA membership at only $20 you can also register to be judged in AACA at the same time. Totally your call.
I would highly recommend any non AACA members take advantage of this offer if only for the magazine which is fantastic.
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4 hours ago, Y-JobFan said:
Do we have to show in the Buick area or can we choose to be in our regular AACA classes?
If you register for AACA only you will be with AACA. If you register for the Buick show you will be with the Buicks
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18 minutes ago, Peter Gariepy said:
I announced it in the Buick General forum, but I thought it best everyone use the target topic to make comments so I locked the announcement topic.
Here is fine too. Although most of the answers are also in the target topic.
My intention was to answer the Buick portion specific questions here. Though of course some overlap will happen. Sorry if I created confusion.
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12 minutes ago, g-g-g0 said:
Brian
Just wondering if the BUICK portion of the show will be open to MODIFIED Buick’s like the BCA events?
yes class M on the registration form
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I'm at the Tru by Hilton in Auburn.
As Steve mentioned no one host hotel. So @BUICK RACER kinda like Flint (or Allentown) we will just clump together as we can either in the AACA hotels on the tri-fold or in ones chosen perhaps by some of the various smaller Buick enthusiast groups like the Reatta folks or BDE, etc.
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37 minutes ago, Matt Harwood said:
I'll be there and would be happy to volunteer. Is this separate from the AACA show or are all the cars going to be in the same place?
We will be in the same area as cars can be judged in both shows, but the Buicks will have their own display area. I haven't yet specifically seen the overall showfield layout. -
Oh and I need class judges. Please contact me if you can help. Buick judging will be from 9-11am so as not to interfere with AACA. Buick judging will be relatively simple (not 400pt) so while AACA or BCA judging is a plus it is not necessary.
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As I eluded to earlier, The AACA, in the spirit of promoting the hobby, has invited Buick owners to Auburn, where we will have a Buick Showfield and Buick judging. You can also be AACA judged at the same event if you are a member or if not a member you can even join the AACA at a reduced half year rate. I hope those who are comfortable partaking in the activities can join us
We will also have a Buick section to the flea market, It should be a really great show!
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looks like there is a campground in Auburn!!
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Since the main thread is locked by Peter I will start this one so that I may help answer questions.
I'm excited to chair the Buick portion of this event and very thankful to Steve, AACA and the BHA for embracing it , in the spirit of the overall promotion of the hobby.
We hope to have a large turn out of Buicks for those who are comfortable partaking in the activities planned.
For the registration and meet trifold visit: AACA Buick Show
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35 minutes ago, GregLaR said:
That 80C is Botticelli Blue in theory same as mine, though definitely a shade darker. I had to call Wilmington (well not me personally but I was there when the shop did it) to get the modern formula from DuPont (now Axalta) using the original DuPont paint chart from 1938. It helped that I was working for Hendrick at the time and DuPont had their name on his race cars). Not sure how Bob (former owner of that car) got his Botticelli color match.
Gainsborough Blue is non-metallic very dark Navy blue as seen on this Limited.
In the poster set "75 Years of Greatness" there is a Gainsborough Blue 80C pictured (see below) I have never been able to exactly track down this car. I think I may know where it is but not 100% sure. Supposedly (like almost every '38-80C) it belonged to Greg Fields (seriously there's only like a handful that don't have his name attached to it as a supposed past owner). Note a white top was not a factory option for '38.
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17 minutes ago, lancemb said:
Can one follow their own post? I don't know.
You can, but it is manual. you must go up to the top right of the thread and click the follow button and then there will be some options on how much contact you would like.
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I know the car well as it is a good friend's.
Lots of history on this one... solid no rust California only car from the Pillsbury collection. Was originally Gainsborough Blue I believe (off my head but I have it in my notes) with red leather. The current owner liked the Sequoia cream which was not a '38 color as pointed out.
Most of the car is authentically correct though a few things have some liberties that could be fixed relatively easily, dashboard wood grained, interior windshield trim chromed, missing running board trim (that might be tough but they were reproduced).
I have photo history of this car back to 1985.
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40 minutes ago, old-tank said:
Covid restrictions and "vulnerable population" are the reasons...probably not in 4 months.
https://www.aaca.org/images/meet_brochures/2021/2021_SE_Spring_Charlotte_Nationals.pdf
note the host hotel is the same...
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7 minutes ago, kgreen said:
Are you suggesting a "pop-up" event, sort of a random meeting like seeing your neighbor at the grocery store? Then it would be hard to pin liability on anyone if someone in attendance contracted some sort of disease; no organization could then be held liable. Of course that would require all those in attendance to fully accept conditions of attendance, should they decide to attend .
No this will not be a "pop-up" event.
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Buick Fans,
For those who wish to partake in a National style event an alternative for this summer is coming soon. This National style event is not a Buick Club of America event. More info soon.
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for what its worth this build thread:
was for a car that debuted at the MCN so you can see what he did and did not post ahead of the debut.
Not Buick but a spectacular and meticulous restoration.
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Buicks at Auburn Celebration - July 1-3, 2021 Auburn Auction Park Auburn, Indiana
in Buick - Meets & Tours
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I'd suggest regular class by year, not modified, though I know you have made some improvements the Buick Engineers didn't think of or couldn't get past the bean counters.