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Car guys (and gals) are Car guys! It doesn't matter what age they are. Buick has great cars in it's past that car guys want. Whether it be pre war or GS 455's or 49 Roadmasters or Grand Nationals car guys will collect these cars. There in lies the next generation of the BCA.
I'm 29 (well til next Saturday). I am a chapter director, a BCA Board of Director and BCA VP. Anyone who says the BCA doesn't have youth needs to look around a little better. I saw plenty of BCA Members at the Colorado Nationa Meet this year that were under 50. We're here, not in huge numbers and that is why the BCA needs more youth, but we ARE here. In the Carolina Chapter (my chapter) most of our members are under 60 and we have all Buicks represented, Pre-war, 50, 60s, GS, GN, Riv's and we welcome all Buicks
My generation certainly looks at the Buick of the 90's and 2000's as grandma's car no doubt, but the car guys amongst us can appreciate a quality older Buick's made and strive to own those. Being early in our careers my generation can't always afford these great Buicks right now, but when we get older as our parent and grandparent pass these greats on we will certainly enjoy them and be active in the club.
The BCA will be around for a long time to come. I personally plan on being in it for at least the next 50 years!!!
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You might trying calling one of the BCA tech advisors for your era car
Also the 1930 cars are real similar to 31's so you might also try the 1930 tech advisor.
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1985 Toyota Corolla. I took my test Sept 5, 1996.
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I am very glad to help!
So when can we expect to see your '40 at a BCA event?
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ddove1972,
I don't have one but checking my chassis parts manual that pin is Group 4.675 part number 509233 and fits 1936 Ser 40: 1937-38-39 Ser 40-60; 1940-41 Ser 40-50-60-70 and all '41, 42' and '46 buicks both front and rear. I don't have my Hollender manual handy but I bet there are some other GM cars that also have it.
Hopefully this may make it easier to find.
Since it fits 37-38 Buicks have you tried Dave Tachney in MN. 763-427-3460. I bet he has it, and he is great guy, too!
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Mark,
Here is what I did for my 38-80C. See the website below for the Monroe shock info. I took the measurements of an original shock to determine what shock to use.
http://www.monroe.com/catalog/documents/08_MountingLengthSheet.pdf
I know it is not the answer you wanted but it is a way to get there.
Brian
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Patrick,
Brian DePouli here BCA VP. As my BOD (Board of Directors) counterparts Bill and Dick have mentioned there is no chapter in the Spokane, WA Area. I heard rumors a while back that there was a group starting one. I'll check on that rumor. Regardless we should have one there. Spokane is the 104th largest city by popluation in the US. As Dick mentioned we just need someone to gather our members in the area together. We just need ten BCA members to sign a petition to form a chapter and the chapter bylaws have to be approved by the BOD.
I will make you a deal. If you can gather just 5 of the 10 members needed to form the chapter I will personally get you the other 5 you need. Also I will provide you a draft by-laws which you and the chapter members can modify to your liking.
What do you think? If you need a current roster of members in the area I will get it provided to you.
Feel free to email me at brian.depouli@att.net or call at 704-905-4989. If you call keep in mind the time difference as I am on the East coast.
Look forward to your response.
Brian
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Jeffery 17,
I have sent you a PM about the hood removal. If what I sent doens't meet your needs I suggest you make a seperate individual new subject post in the Buick pre-war forum with a subject line like "37 hood removal question" It should get more hits and responses that way than under this general post about the pre-war division. But I hope what I sent will help.
Brian
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Yes I concur with Tom; the bushings need to be reamed before putting the pins in.
Brian
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OK 75 years of Buick says about the 1967 Skylark
"The Skylark 2 door coupe continued to be a pillared version of the hardtop model. This year it was avaiable in both plain or in the new GS400 sub-series, as shown here. This was the only year that this style woudl be avaiable in the GS form. In plain trim, it was Model 44607, which cost $2956 snd weighed 3,439 pounds. In plain for it useds the 340 cubic-inch, 220 horsepower engine."
PAge 312 75 years of Buick.
I think there is a typo in this however. In plain form I belive it was model numer 44407 at$2735 and 3,229 lbs and in GS form 44607.
There was a production of 3,165 of the 44407 2 dr coupes and 1014 in the GS400 version.
There was also a 2dr coupe V-6 44307 of which 894 were made.
hope this helps.
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I have Hagerty Insurance and they have estimated values for a lot of cars. There are several auction site you can view results from many years back. So between those you can get a decent idea for insured value.
As for books there is a tread here in the forum for the "must have" books for Buick owners. I don't think I know how to paste in the link, but i'll give it a try.
http://forums.aaca.org/f115/buick-owners-bookshelf-197781.html
If this doens't work i am sure a more forum savvy member will assist, but it is one of the top threads in the Buick General section of the forum
But in quick summary I recommend
75 Years of Buick (out of print)
The Complete History of Buick (not sure the latest edition number)
Also get yourself these books that cover your year
a Chassis Parts Manual
a Body Parts Manual
a Shop Manual
I find them invaluable typically they come up for sale on eBay. You may also try Factory Auto Manuals is a specialist dealer in quality used factory car manuals. We are the Automotive Manual People!
Also the Buick Heritage Alliance has many 1940 Buick items (sales lit, ads, etc) that have been donated to the BHA. Photo copies are available for small fees. If you want to get orginals going here and see what's out there is a good way to make your "wish list".
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I believe he means 401K.
Yes please post some photos.
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OK lets decode your trim plate
First 40-4829 just says that it is a 1940 Limited convertible Trunk back phaeton
Body number we discussed already
Trim number 858 is for Black Leather
Paint Number 549 is for Sequoia Cream (I'm not a fan of yellow but I think this is a gourgeous color for this car)
-6W means the car has Dual sidemounts
All this is from my Master Chassis Parts book dated Jan 1, 1947
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Well typically the body number you are referencing runs in order per model per year, but I am sure Dave Corbin will chime in soon enough with some info on that.
You are correct there were 230 made for domestic use and 20 that were exported. So a total of 250, I am not sure if the exports were numbered in with the non-exports. Again i defer to Dave Corbin. There was also (7) 80C's made. The difference is the 80C's had a fast back like my 38 while the 81C's had a trunk back. In comarison in 38 they made 350 for domestic uses and 61 for export all fastbacks.
There are 11 listed in the 2008 BCA Membership Roster along with (2) 1940-80Cs. I can say from expereince on the 38-80C side of things that there are 8 listed in the Roster and I have located 12 more beyond the roster. So maybe there are 20-30 1940-81C's out there. I would say pretty rare in most peoples books.
It appears to be the top of the line convertible for 1940 orginally selling for $1952
It appears Harry Logan has or had a 1940-81C, he is a great guy a good resourse for 37-38 Buick's but I am sure he is knowledgeable on this car as well. You should email him at harrylogan@earthlink.net.
Hope this helps.
Brian
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What do you care to know? I have a 1938 80C 4 door Convertible Phaeton. They are similar but quite different too.
Brian
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Derek,
We'll see you out there. Its good to see you're bringing the kids and getting them into the hobby. BCA NAtionals were (and still are) my favorite summer vacation. I guess that means now i'm just a big kid.
We're going to get my little one (4 month old) started right and he will coming with us. Unfortunately (or fortunately) we are flying in not driving.
See you there!
Brian
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That's impressive. I want one for my car now!!
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One thing I don't like about Craig's list is that you cannot search the entire country for cars but I found away around that. Jaxed mash compiles all the Craig's list and ebay items that come up under certain categories like Buick 1930s. It is very neat since you never know when the next barn find is the car you want! Here is the link:
http://www.jaxed.com/cgi-bin/mash.cgi
Brian
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Looks real good! I'm sure you're glad to have her back.
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Thank you to all that voted. I am glad I earned your vote. I am excited about my upcoming term and hope to, no I plan on making a difference. Please feel free to contact me whenever you feel the need.
Brian DePouli
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I have been using the "file manager" at the bootom of the post or full reply. Please note it is not on the bottom of the "quick reply"
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The 61 in the photos is an Invitca owned by DR Augsberger. It won Best Buick Modified. He has tons of chrome on that car. It's a nicely done modified.
There was an all orginal HPOF 61 E225 there as well owned by Dave Berquist. Neat story on that car. Three years ago that car was sitting on the lot of the dealership who hosted us for this show. The orginal owner bought from the dealer and somehow it has made its way back there and was just sitting out side. Dave bought the car which is in really great shape for an almost 50 year old car.
Buick in enemy hands???
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Dave,
I agree the rear door shape and side window do make it look like a Roadmaster but the giveaways that it is a smaller series is the sidemount covers. Roadmasters and Limited sidemounts sit much deeper in the fender and therefore do not have "BUICK" across them. Here is a photo of my good friend Paul Longstreth's 80C for sidemount comparison.