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Very interesting to hear this history. Thanks for the informative posts Wayne and 30DodgePanel.

Thanks for the replies Frank, Marty, and nzcarnerd!

I guess I'm not seeing front brakes on this one...so this truck would be a '25-'26-'27?

Hoping someone can tell the year & make of this truck. A friend found these two photos in an antique store. Thanks! Scott

Looking for an original style battery for my 1993 Ramcharger. The only things I find on google are brand new style, or pre '80. Could someone give me a pic or a link to what the correct battery would be? And suggestions on where to purchase? Scott

Is it illegal to be doing so (driving daily on historic plates)? If so, it sounds like law enforcement is doing their job.

It absolutely astounds me that in some places in America this happens. The government should not be taking private property without restitution. I wish everyone had the time and money to sue city hall when things like this happen, and then they would stop. Until enough people fight it, it will continue.

Yes. Last year, I was told by Mickey of the rule when I was asking her why her records showed fewer points than my records. Sounded reasonable to me as I figured the rule was to prevent someone from having 10, 20, (pick a number) judging credits without ever having judged a car. Scott

novaman is correct, and it's important to note that some items within the 4 categories are worth a lot of points. For example, the engine category: Carb, fuel system, ignition, wiring, and radiator are 10 % each, but engine finish is 50%. So if you repaint your engine, you are already down 12.5% of the total score. Exterior paint is 50% as is upholstery. Scott

I've been a police officer with a large AZ dep't for over 20 years. We've never been tested on the various plate styles. We're not informed when a new style is released. I've never seen the book you refer to-- only one on all state's driver's licenses to help combat fraudulent ones. So, we don't carry them...it would be really expensive (cost prohibitive) for the MVD to keep re-printing them each time a new style comes out, if they even exist. It has always been illegal to have an obscured plate. The law says the plate must be clearly visible. To me, that means the state must be visible as well, but law enforcement has been lax in allowing the AZ to be covered. Sure seems to me the new law is pretty much common-sense stuff, and quite reasonable... but I do think the fine is high. Why they chose to have it apply to AZ plates only, I don't know. Scott

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm happy to say that the law here in Arizona will be repealed by the state legislature before the end of January.</div></div> Well, it's still with us. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it was ridiculous, as it concerned the capability of an officer to read the word "Arizona" at the top of the plate. who could think an officer here would not be able to identify an Arizona plate just by appearance alone? please. </div></div> With the standard plate, yes. But there are 40 other styles to choose from, and you can't tell the state on those "just from appearance alone." Scott

My vote is to do away with the 10-point spread. Although I am a fairly new AACA member, I was under the impression (from hearing what was said at the judging school's I've attended, and talking to more experienced members) that there was only one philosophy in the AACA: that it will give the appropriate award to each car that deserves it. To me, this is a better way of awarding prizes than the other systems that allow for only one first prize, only one second prize, etc. But, from reading these responses, I see that there actually is another philosophy at work in the AACA: there is but one highest-scoring vehicle which is the first prize winner...and if other vehicles come close to that top-scorer, then they too will be given a first prize. After re-reading the judging manual in light of this thread, I understand now that this notion of ONE first prize winner is supported by the judging manual...however, this notion is contradicted when I hear banquet speakers and judge's trainers say, "The AACA likes to give an award to each and every car that deserves one" and "the car will be judged against a scoresheet, not against other cars." Unfortunately, the 10 point rule causes some vehicles/owners to lose out on an award that they would have otherwise received had it not been for a near-perfect car showing up. I witnessed the unfairness of the 10-point rule recently: a couple has a family-treasure of a car that is enjoyed by being driven on an occasional tour. This car is extrememly well maintained, and by the points system of 365 for First Junior, it wins. However, at a regional meet, it was beat out of that award by a freshly-restored car. The owners, an elderly couple, had many, many hours of sweat in getting the car ready for the show. There were no glaring errors on the car (such as radial tires) that amount to huge deductions. It would have won First at another show perhaps, but not at this one becuase of the freshly-restored car that they ended up competing against. The couple was very disheartened becuase everyone in our host club (many of whom are judges) was confident they would win First Junior. Now, a year later, they are going to try again at another show which means a 1,500 mile round trip (we don't have many shows out west.) For an award system to be fair, it must be consistent. The 10-point rule leads to inconsistencies. As has been stated, a less-than-perfect car can win a First at one meet, but take it to another meet, and depending on what shows up in the same class, that less-than-perfect car may only win Second or Third. Same car, same day, theoretically can win any one of those three awards soley depending on what other, "better" car or cars show up. A car can also slip BACKWARDS due to the ten point rule; for example, it won a Second Junior at one show, so the owner takes it to another show hoping to win First, but this time wins THIRD Junior. This system is inconsistent and so cannot be considered a fair award system.

Bob, I too have a '58 Park Lane, but my hood opens! It has just one latch in the center. You said the cable won't move...assuming that is the problem (as opposed to a stuck latch) then I would apply penetrating oil to the cable housing (it is a wire-wound housing, so oil should penetrate to the cable itself). Do this over a period of a week or so. I realize the only place accessible to do this is the section under the dash, but maybe enough oil will migrate to where it does the trick. Then, while a helper is pulling the cable, push up on the hood panel near the latch. You'll do this from underneath the car using a long dowel or something similar. Let us know how this saga turns out! Scott

Thanks, Matt, but I'm not ready to have anything powder coated. I know the gold cad would be tough to duplicate...I was thinking of maybe a 3-step coating process of the gold, silver, and green. But I'm not a powder coater, so what do I know! If you try it, let us know how it turns out! Scott

Matt, thanks for posting the pics. I have heard that "the trouble with powder coating is that it looks like powder coating!" That is, it looks like a thick coat of plastic. However, your frame and suspension arm look like paint instead. Sounds like you have found a great source for quality work--has your guy been able to duplicate the gold colored cad plating? Thanks Scott

Wayne, I called the nationwide Sheraton reservation line, and of course the clerk I spoke with could not find any area Sheraton offering the AACA rate. What city/town is it in? Could you provide the exact name of the Sheraton and a direct phone number? Thanks! Scott

As a member of the Tucson AZ region of the AACA, I was contacted by the producer of an upcoming movie to be filmed here in Tucson. He needs, in the next 2-3 weeks, a '39 (or so) Buick as one of the featured cars. I am just passing this info along as a hobbyist in the hopes of him finding the cars he needs. His info is at the bottom; contact him, not me. (I will post this in the Pre War discussion forum also.) Thanks! Scott > We are interested in a Ford model A (passenger car) > that does not need to be in sterling condition; it > only needs to run. The main character Max, a professor at the U of A in 1939, is > driving what would have been considered an older > vehicle. We would need the car for about five full > days, but not necessarily successive days. > The other vehicle should be a late 30's model as close > to '39 as possible (the script calls for a '39 Buick) > and is owned by a rather wealthy man, so it's > condition should be excellent. This car would be > needed late January or early February for only one > day. Best Regards, Jason Brenizer 512.825.6172 jason_brenizer@yahoo.com

As a member of the Tucson AZ region of the AACA, I was contacted by the producer of an upcoming movie to be filmed here in Tucson. He needs, in the next 2-3 weeks, a '39 (or so) Buick as one of the featured cars. I am just passing this info along as a hobbyist in the hopes of him finding the cars he needs. His info is at the bottom; contact him, not me. (I will post this in the General discussion forum also.) Thanks! Scott > We are interested in a Ford model A (passenger car) > that does not need to be in sterling condition; it > only needs to run. The main character Max, a professor at the U of A in 1939, is > driving what would have been considered an older > vehicle. We would need the car for about five full > days, but not necessarily successive days. > The other vehicle should be a late 30's model as close > to '39 as possible (the script calls for a '39 Buick) > and is owned by a rather wealthy man, so it's > condition should be excellent. This car would be > needed late January or early February for only one > day. Best Regards, Jason Brenizer 512.825.6172 jason_brenizer@yahoo.com

For a friend, I am looking for a usable convertible top frame for a 1959 Mercury Park Lane; 1960 Park Lane will work. He says maybe Ford/Edsel is the same too; if anyone out there knows, please chime in. Thanks for looking! Scott

Looking for a 1958 Dealer Album/Sales Album/Sales Manual. (The saleman's catalog listing every possible choice a buyer would face when ordering a car). Looking for one to help in the restoration of my 58 Park Lane. Please email me at oldcarsandtrucks@aol.com Thanks Scott