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Thanks to Dave Schumacher, The Packard Library, the mystery has been solved. Anyone needing reference material for Packard, and other makes, should check out his website. Do a search on Packard Library and you should easily find it.

Call me.. I just got a hot lead on 3 of these wheels, complete. I am awaitng photos and will inquire about lug-sleeves, whatever they are. David Flack, Dallas 2-373-7155

This one should be easy for someone with an Autolite catalog....GBM-2065F. Arumature. I'm thinking mid-late 30's - 40's??? I can post a picture if need be, but the number is on the tag and stamped in the part.... Thanks!!

Lemme make a call to a Packard friend of mine. I am in Dallas....214-373....

please send me a private email with your asking price..thanks

The comments regarding the engine are accurate - stick with the 120, especially if the car has been maintained. If you're wanting to be a "Senior" Packard guy, go with a '38 or earlier. The 120 is a simple, inexpensive, and reliable engine to operate. Goes pretty much for the whole car. As for the Super8, the trim and generally anything else that is Super8 specific is generally more expensive, in particular BEWARE THE COST OF THE DASH PLASTIC. That said, "don't say I didn't tell you so...."

Scott - 1939 is a "good" year in terms of parts and driveability. I would be happy to offer any "free advice" for your consideration. You are welcome to send me a private message with your phone number, or raise any specific questions in this string for the gang to shoot at. The only issue that comes to mind is the 1939 overdrive is kind of a one-year only setup. Not a big problem, but about the only one year only issue that springs to mind.

1941 110 Standard Wheel, which is exactly what that coupe is, not a Deluxe or Special. Just a plain jane 110. Joel - thanks for the definitive identification, kudos to you. I was not familiar with this wheel. I have never claimed to be a '41 guy, and certainly not a '42 guy either. To my belief then, this would be 356978 4.1021, as in horn button for the standard 41-110 steering wheel, not the Deluxe models at 4.1022 (with the horn ring). Final comments welcome, of course, otherwise, let this string die.

Still a mystery then. The 38-39 Juniors used a stamped metal horn button, or with a Banjo wheel, a plastic button with a metal insert. I believe 39 Super used the plastic as well. (was there a 39 Su8 standard wheel?) Definitely not 38 Super as I have a friend who has one of those. 40 Junior used the metal button with the Packard script, or a plastic button with Banjo. Seniors used the Plastic button, I'm pretty sure. Definitely not 35-37 Junior. Anybody have 35-37 Standard 8 or Senior knowledge???

Thanks for the comments... I also received a private message suggesting it is 1942 Senior Clipper, only(?) which would make it quite unusual. Your comment regarding tan paint is consistant with what remains on this one.

Contact Mark Lambert - Lambert Automotive 615-297-4823. He should be able to provide a set.

Joel - I don't think its the 'normal' 41-42 & later style that goes into the 3 bar horn ring - that center emblem is larger, and there are more rings. See ebay item 4618090863 up right now. Are you thinking it goes in the "K" wheel? What is confusing me is the blue enamel...backer is copper, or heavy copper plated.

OK Guys, will someone tell me the year/series application for this Horn Button? Thanks!

Well, this string has gotten a little off track. The important topic really is the Sport Coupe anyway, not the SCAM cars. Nothwithstanding the historical fact that many originally closed cars are now topless, and the accurate comments being made about the fork in the assembly line, Richard's car is in fact, verified by the original data plate, and that he has the "softtop" parts, a sport coupe. Richard is not a Packard guy, nor by ANY stretch an originality guy. This project is a sweet car which should stay original. But if that were so, the convertible top repro guys would be out of business....but who am I to say - I don't own it. And yes, speedster, I am in Dallas.

DEFINITE SCAM on the super cheap cars....not just Packards...Stay Away. As for the 33 Std 8 Sport Coupe listed by Richard at the Gas Monkey Garage, it is a real car, real person, with a real story. I saw the car when he got it, and when he got it running and driving. Apparently (as in I have not been there since) he decided he wanted to do some "minor" engine work, and having NO Packard engine experience, has gotten in over his head (speculation on my part). The car is about as pictured, and definitely has an original data plate to confirm what it is, etc. Otherwise a very complete project car deserving a complete restoration. If anybody has (serious) interest, and wants me to go overthere with my camera and cellphone, I would be happy to.

Negative. Wallace Walmsley passed away about 7 years ago. Fact. For certain. What are you specifically looking for?

I have personally seen a 288 in a 1940-120 without cutting the firewall. There was not enough clearance for the fan, therefore a thermostatically controlled electric fan was put in front of the radiator. Honestly, that's about all I remember. Makes sense to me as the 288 is longer than the 282. I did not study the front engine mounts, and have since lost track of that car.

The 282 Manifold is shorter by at least 2" than all the later engines. Exactly what engine/manifold are you wanting to build? I don't think there is any chance at making it work on any of the 288/327/359 engines or the 356 engine. I might be interested in buying (or trading with a 327 4bbl manifold I have) the buick manifold if it is adaptable to the 282 with a reasonable amount of effort. That would be kinda neat. Can you PM me a couple photos with dimensions - I am quite curious - I have never heard of a Buick manifold being anywhere close to the Packards. I know the prewar dual carb Buicks were reputed to have superior performance to the single carb versions, but that may have been boasting.... any Buick guys out there to comment?

I have a friend with a 36 Packard. His birthday is next month if you wanted to help me with my shopping dilemma?

...and if you determine you are stepping up for an expensive engine rebuild, consider that since Packard streetrod activity has increased, there are good used engines that come on the market. At present, I have a good used 40-110 engine that I'd sell for a heck of a lot less than the cost of rebuilding yours, if you could sleep at night with a 40 Engine...

...plus there was no rumbleseat in '39, so indeed that car must be custom bodied..WOW, what a find, a 39-110 convertible with a custom body...I'd like to see some pictures of that...

I am friends with the gentleman selling the car. That said, I encourage you to contact him with any questions. Mark is indeed a Packard wizard, and that 39-110 sedan is one of the sweetest drivers I have seen in a while, and having personal knowledge of all that has been done for this car in the past year, I would not hesitate to drive it anywhere, immediately. Value? There is NO WAY you can restore a car for this kind of money, not to mention years of effort and parts hunting. Call Mark - he is primarily interested in selling a car honestly and openly. Value? Did you see the unrestored 35-120 sedan bid past 11 grand? Did you see the unrestored 36-120 with a stuck engine bid to 15 grand? Unrestored cars are money pits - believe me, I speak from the abyss.