TG57Roadmaster

Thanks for the good words guys, Wasn't "Superfly" the flic in which one of the girls had to drink Drano straight, without so much as a chaser, in the backseat of that Eldo? Or am I mixing my Blaxploitation Movie memories? Sorry you have to save the sunroof for Spring, but it's cold in the Carolinas, too. As for the attached, all I can say is, "Pardon me Miss, but your <span style="font-style: italic">brights</span> are on". Brrrrrrrr! TG

Naaah, no mud-slinging from me; besides, you'll need that plow to scoop away the dauber's mess. Your beer analogy was spot on, but don't forget that baby comes in handy when you're snowed-in, trapped in your ice-fishing shack. That's when Eino says to Toivo, "I go store, get beer, take da Buick, eh?". The Finns in the U.P. are a people of few words (and fewer prepositions), and Eino & Toivo are the most famous Youpers of all. My attachment doesn't belong here, except that I need it for my signature. It's the Roadmistress, my '57 Model 73 before her facelift. She didn't get the Full-Tilt, Joan Rivers Miracle-Makeover, just back to red wheels, new interior and a rechromed rear bumper. Taken at an AACA Hornets Nest Region Victory Tour to Wilmington, NC. She's too fine to be named Duke or The Roadmaster. As for the backdrop, the developer must have run out of Druids to populate his planned sub-division, 'cause there was nary a home or mud hut in sight; just a road to nowhere. Thanks for the pix; you did your duty to rescue that sedan from obscurity!

It doesn't get any more generic than this, from the 1951 "Motor's Handbook", 28th Edition, unless you draw it yourself. TG

You're welcome Randy, Your best bet would be to go to the AACA Library Page (above, at "Resources"), print and fill out and fax the Request Form, and let their fingers do the walking. The cost of a late '30's MoToR Magazine can be prohibitive (especially the big Annual Number issue), but if you attach a photo of your jack, they should be able to narrow the field. All MoToR issues have an Advertiser's Index in the back, and Blackhawk will definitely be there. They might even have a Blackhawk catalog/brochure. That's probably the most cost-effective way to proceed. TG

America's favorite Gasser in 1938 Sedan form...for the <span style="text-decoration: underline">Smart</span> Crowd. And just what words did Hubby utter to the Missus when he pulled up in his smart new <span style="font-style: italic">wee</span> Willys? "Hey, it's prettier than a <span style="font-style: italic">Crosley!</span>"; Her reply; "Honey, I sent you to the store for milk, and you come back with a <span style="font-style: italic">breadbox!</span>" Where's Henny Youngman when you need him? But seriously folks, pages 3-4 are missing from my 1938, 8.5"x11", 16-page Prestige (?) color brochure, likely swiped by some snarky teen back in the '50's. I'll wager that's the full-color Coupe illustration. Bet it's a beauty!

Since '37-'38 Willys were virtually identical, this Coupe, from the 1938 Willys brochure answers your question. As stated above, the '39's took on forward-thrusting grille and squared-top headlight treatments; think Sharknose Graham in 5/6th scale. As for the fender-mounted parking lights? Maybe Willys accessories, Western Auto or Warshawsky's. Regards, Tom Gibson

Thanks Judy, And keep up the great work; the efforts of Webpage Managers and Newsletter Editors have to rank among the most thankless in the Universe. Their rewards are the occasional Thank You's, a few comforting pats on the back, and the best of all, knowing they've done their job well. Tom Gibson AACA Hornets Nest Region

Tom, I really appreciate your kind words, but I'm not fishing for huzzahs with my post-adolescent (and overtly amateurish) "doodles". It's mostly a response to a few replies read lately that go, "Waaa, waaa, waaa, the Forum's gone stale, always the same few posters, blah, blah, blah". Well, I haven't been on this thing since the day Al Gore invented these Internets, but here's a thought...POST something! Nobody's gonna bite you. They are Commmon Threads, aren't they? Remember what it was like when all your buds coveted that brand new <span style="font-style: italic">Mach I</span> and all you could think of was the rusting <span style="font-style: italic">'58 Edsel Citation</span> in Uncle Henry's garage? You are <span style="font-style: italic">not</span> alone. Like it or not, ebay didn't become the raging success it has with Listings like, <span style="font-weight: bold">"Gota peece o'crap 4U"</span>. So <span style="font-style: italic">say</span> something; take a few minutes to Show and/or Tell about that incredibly rare, priceless Widget you got. For <span style="font-style: italic">two bucks</span> ('cause they didn't know what they had), but we all know it's worth two grand. Isn't this whole hobby just a big ol' grown-up version of what we all did in the 2nd grade? And once you've posted that work, tell your wives, your friends, the elevator operator, and all those aliens who've abducted you! (Just spare us the grisly details of the latter, huh?). Set the Transporter Coordinates, Mr. Scott; One to beam up, Tom Gibson

Yeah, but I don't know where it came from; all her life, all my mom could draw were little stick kitties, hanging from a clothesline by their tails! There are other survivors, but I always liked this one, coffee stains and all. TG

C'mon, I <span style="font-style: italic">know</span> you did it, we <span style="font-style: italic">all</span> did it. While you were supposed to be memorizing the multiplication tables, pondering Einstein's Theory of Relativity, or cramming Shakespeare, you were <span style="font-style: italic">drawing cars,</span> weren't you? And just <span style="font-style: italic">how</span> many trips to Detention or the Pincipal's office did you rack up? "Excuse me teach', 'E=mc <span style="font-style: italic">what'</span> ?" While the bullies were busy dunking pudgy Priscilla's pigtails in inkwells, you were feverishly finishing up a sketch of the Latest Hot Car you'd seen or dreamed about. I'd bet money on it. As for poor little preyed-upon Priscilla; boy, revenge never looked so sweet. She's all growed up now & you can find her modeling the new Buicks over at <span style="font-weight: bold">"Girls On Buicks 2"</span>, page 3, at the BCA General Forum. A Veritable <span style="font-style: italic">Vision</span> in Gold Lame. (That's Lam- <span style="font-style: italic">may</span> , I don't know how to make this thing speak French, yet). OK, these mini-Monets were done <span style="font-style: italic">way</span> after my own kidhood, never won me a Scholarship to the Art College of Design, nor led to the Vice-Presidency of GM Design, but I've shown you mine...wanna show us yours? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Tom Gibson

To Packin31, Tom, Thanks for noticing! We are a crazy lot of pack rats, aren't we? As a self-described Generalist, I don't have the <span style="font-weight: bold">Library at Alexandria</span> or the clairvoyance of the <span style="font-weight: bold">Great Carnak</span> , but just enough of both to be slightly dangerous. What's the point of having an archive if you can't/won't/don't share it? The key, for me at least, is to be absolutely certain about the information you disseminate on your subject. 'Cause once folks see it on TV, in print, in cyberspace or even at the beach in the form of skywriting, sudddenly that kernel of knowledge becomes the Holy Gospel. And they take it with 'em to the grave. No one person knows, or has everything; Google (tho' a great tool) doesn't = Salvation, and anyone who thinks otherwise likely has a famous bridge for sale. <span style="font-style: italic">Nothing</span> will ever replace cracking open a book (except the English coffee table variety), poring over microfilm, what have you, in the quest for answers. I hope they're still teaching basic research skills these days, otherwise our future generations will be blithering idiots, incapable of an original thought. Don't even get me <span style="font-style: italic">started</span> on Spellcheck! Jeez, even the <span style="font-weight: bold">Oracle at Delphi</span> couldn't save the Ancient Greeks from the barbarians at the gate. On the bright side, when the <span style="font-weight: bold">Global Magnetic Anomaly</span> occurs, those of us with books, who know how to use them, well, we're gonna rule the world. Now <span style="font-style: italic">there's</span> a scary idea! Lookin' for my slide rule, Tom Gibson If there was one book that started it all for me, it's attached, published in '76. That, and a handful of "Special Interest Autos" purchased with paper route money in the early '70's. This one's been rebound at least three times. Chris, a friend in Atlanta, has every SIA from job one...wish I'd been so focused. Talk about <span style="font-weight: bold">treasure!</span> (A handy thread is "The Buick Owner's 'Bookshelf'", in the BCA General Forum, spawned by a Packard thread).

And yet another from the same '40 Olds piece, but with an eight. TG

Hard to believe, but they did show some cars in brochures with blackwalls. In this '40 Olds piece, the entire line of Model 60's (even the convertible) was shown that way. Trim rings were available but not illustrated in the Sixty line-up. Tom Gibson

Okay, I couldn't resist, the '40 Olds 60 Series. TG

It's <span style="font-style: italic">waaay</span> past bedtime, but if you want little, individual pics to assemble, the old brochures are brimming with 'em, such as this from the 1938 LaSalle. Unfortunately, I'm from the old-school paste-up dinosaur era, and don't know <span style="font-style: italic">squat</span> on how to draw on a computer. In the olden days, sometime between the Invention of the Wheel and Man Landing on the Moon, we would've thrown some tracing paper over the image and drawn it out. If the above attachments don't help, they can be deleted for room for more of what you seek. Only had to walk to school in the 4th grade, Tom Gibson

A rear view of the "B-58" 1958 Buick setup. TG

This '39 Nash has lots of detail. Too much? Are you going to "draw" the frame? TG

A nice cutaway of the '36 DeSoto Airsteam, perhaps? TG

An under-view from the '41 Buick. Are we getting warmer, or do you strictly want line drawings? TG

Or this from the '34 Buick Series '40. TG

<span style="font-weight: bold">Love</span> that Imperial blueprint! The place to look for what I think you seek may be the older brochures, that made a big fuss about showing their chassis's. This is from the 1926 Buick. Tom Gibson

This is straight from the Buick Chassis Parts Book, and i's easier to show it than to try to explain it. Can't answer your spot-weld versus beaded question. Right after I got my '57 73, a friend gave me a nice, red Buick wheel, but it's the smaller 5.5" width that I can't use. Tom Gibson

Gosh, I'm really sorry for him; my mom's only brother (there were just the 2 of 'em) lost his life in a wreck in '64, and the family never really got over it. Your son's lucky to have lived, and the '56 will go a long way to see he stays that way. There is a <span style="font-style: italic">perfect</span> place to post your pic, if you don't mind a little ribbing. It's a thread I started before you posted your low-rider (I thought maybe the car was black...hence the new movie analogy; "Mourning Becomes Electra", with Rosalind Russell, 1947). It's called "Bowdlerized Buicks", in the BCA General Forum. It's <span style="font-weight: bold">the</span> spot for radically-altered Buicks, and I'm sure the guys & gals would love to see it. For me, I'll stick to low-mileage originals, like my buddy Dave's '60 Invicta, shown here on the Blue Ridge Parkway. Tom Gibson

On that note, did y'all see the B-J Roadshow on Speed Channel last night covering Charlotte AutoFair? There was a guy who bought a '39 Ford Woodie in the 70's when he was a teenager; he and his dad worked on it for years. They reluctantly sold it, the car wound up in Puerto Rico (I think), and amazingly, he was able to track it down and get it back. His wife even helped in locating it. Sadly, his dad had died right before he picked it up at the dock, but he made it into the resto-mod that he wanted, and it was a <span style="font-style: italic">beauty</span> . He said that whenever he was at a crossroads (Mod or Resto), he felt his dad's presence and guidance; now that's a labor of love. Do you think <span style="font-style: italic">he'll</span> ever sell it again? I wish I could have saved this (long gone, sold 20+ years ago) from behind the barn in the U.P., but I know it's somewhere today, haulin' folks or stuff or both to a show. And I know my Grandma and the guy who bought it both felt like they made a good deal. Tom Gibson

Hmmm, "master", (is that a crack?; a token of esteem?), No wonder the back-benders love ya...with room for five (unsuspecting) passengers, 4 trolls up on the parade boot and you (wisely) in your neck brace, that's nine referrals per ride! And just <span style="font-style: italic">why</span> , pray tell, does your Electra-Ride In Blue not belong on this site? The next time you're in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, I'll take you to Hallowed Ground, on a pilgrimage (machete optional) to this ol' tin-type I've been visiting since I was a little tyke. Don't know <span style="font-style: italic">or care</span> what it is, it's just a car in the woods at the old homeplace. Does <span style="font-style: italic">it</span> belong here or, in a Hemmings calendar? Once again, <span style="font-style: italic">you</span> decide. Tom Gibson