West Peterson
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Novaman: There's no mistaking a 1950 Buick. They're the only ones where the grille looks like a whole bowl of spaghetti is coming out of it, right over the bumper. I'd love to have one. Especially a convertible. What a sight!
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Restorer32: How did you get over the want/need to have an XKE. I'd like to take the serum.
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120,000 dimes. But its location is secret until I've exhausted all possible ways of purchasing it myself. It may not be worth that much, but it is to me since there isn't any rust repair involved. I've seen people pay half that price but for rusty junk. Plus it comes with a new rubber set, NOS exhaust tips and an extra set of correct wheels.
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I pulled the sock out to buy my computer equipment.
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If you've got a rule that states a maximum displacement, then the ONLY way to get more power is using a substitute.
Whether it's a magical octane booster solution or modern technological wizardly, it's a substitute, but I'm not talking about modern wizardry.
The engineers at Stutz had no money to develop a 16, so, as I keep bringing up, with 122c.i. less than Cadillac, they accomplished almost the same power (that is, if you can believe the 75-year-old figures). I'll concede that Stutz bored and stroked as much as they possibly could while keeping the integrity of the block. The depended on the engineering finesse of twin overhead cams to get them to the same spot.
Let's discuss Apples (it's past dinner time and I'm hungry): Cadillac's unblown 8-cyl. powerplant at the time was 353c.i. -- Stutz' unblown 8 was 322. Cadillac produced 115hp while Stutz produced 156.
Packard's unblown 12 with 445.5c.i. produced 160hp. Stutz' unblown 322cid 8 produced 156hp.
The Clint Eastwood-type myth that bigger is better can be exploded with 75-year-old technology, not computer-age Wassitz technology.
By the way, I think I'd go with the lighter, faster weaponry and make my shots count. But then, I don't know nuthin' 'bout guns or using them.
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What your're saying is that there's no substiture for more fuel!
By the way, I found my spoon.
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I think you're admitting that there IS a substitute for c.i. by stating that the Big CID engine will go faster with the add-ons. By saying there is no substitute, you're trying to say that only more CID will increase power. The 322cid dohc 8-cylinder Stutz was nearly as powerful as the 452cid 16-cylinder Cadillac. What I'm saying is that there is a more efficient way to increase hp.
You're it. I quit.
(My wife sent me off to work with a bowl of soup and a fork... beat that!)
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I believe Miller started blowing after seeing what was under the hood of that 1924 Indy winner.
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Still too small.
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In a 170-year-old open barn, I've located a rust-free California E-Type Jaguar just waiting for a brake job, some paint and chrome. Interior looks great. Looks fun. Wish I could find the cash to buy it.
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Yes, Virginia, there is a substitute for Cubic Inches.
Re the claim, "There's no substitute for cubic inches," I'd have to disagree. I'd say that overhead cams, hemispherical combustion chambers, twin ignition and superchargers are definately substitutes for CID. Just read the history of the Duesenberg Bros, Charles Nash and Charles Greuter (Stutz engineer) and you'll find out... or, keep reading this post for a more condensed explanation.
Stutz built the most powerful engine in the mid 1920s with a 289cid powerplant, with Duesenberg almost matching its horsepower with just 260cid. Then, when Cadillac was playing with "cubic inches" with its V16 (452cid), Stutz introduced its 322cid (8-cylinder) powerplant. While it didn't match Cadillac's 175hp, it was close with a very capable and sturdy 156 horsepower. Packard's 12-cylinder was only rated 4hp higher. For Stutz, overhead cams and hemispherical combustion chambers was substitute for cubic inches.
Duesenberg, on the other hand, substituted superchargers (along with overhead cams) for cubic inches when the racing community kept lowering the maximum displacement for running races. They were able to produce as much or more horsepower with half the amount of combustion chamber capacity. In 1924, when Duesenberg won the Indy 500, no one was aware of the secret until after the race and the hood was opened.
Super large combustion chambers do not burn fuel very efficiently, which is where twin-ignition comes into play.
Sorry for the long post, but I couldn't resist the challenge.
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I think you ought to just enjoy the car, show it, and have fun on car tours rather than try to make a profit. There are many Duesenbergs that are much more desirable than your town car that are selling for much less than $1 million. Even ones with perfect restorations. The Hearst/Davies car has a very old restoration. In my opinion, replacing the wheels with the correct size for when it was originally built would do much for improving its looks.
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Thanks for the help/offer. I had been to the Nash club website, but my computer was not yet setup to hit the imbedded email buttons on websites. I finally got a hold of the club's president and he has directed me to a person that can help me out.
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What's even more frustrating is trying to figure out a problem that isn't consistent. A problem that picks different times not to work.
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I had just finished restoring my 1957 VW Karmann Ghia. I was adjusting something, I don't remember what, but I reached in the window to start the car. It started right up. Unfortunately, it was in gear and proceded to smash into the car that was six feet in front of it. The front bumper of the Karmann Ghia is very low and provided no protection for the perfectly painted front end. I wish I knew where that car was today. I sold it in 1988. Went to Utah. Color: Tomato red with creme top. Anyone??
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I recommend giving Doug Seybold a call. He's an expert on that period of Buick... and very personable.
440-835-1193
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I need to contact someone who knows Nash automobiles from 1928-32. I know there is a good Nash website, however, at the present time, I cannot click on a website email address and get through.
Thanks.
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Judging tips will be back in the next issue. I did not receive anything for the Jan-Feb issue, and that is the only reason it did not appear.
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Try diet soda, and make it an UNcola. No sugar, no die.
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Shoprat... No offense taken, I was also funnin. Even though I grew up near the 45th parallel, I've never thought of W.Va. as being "in the South." It's all relative, though, I guess. My wife, from Michigan, likes to say that she used to teach "in the west," meaning South Dakota. I always thought of "the west" as being a little bit "wester" than that. She's right, though. She taught on the Rose Bud Indian Reservation, and in her spare time helped round up cattle and brand them. While all I did was work in the corn fields and turkey farms on the prairie of Western Minnestota.
Ron, Bob Stevens is a good guy. I was fortunate to have worked with Bob for the short time I was at Cars & Parts. I learned a lot from him.
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Shoprat,
I guess since I moved back over the line, I'm not considered to be one of those damnyankees anymore. After growing up in MinneNOPLACE, MinneSNOWda, I lived in Atlanta for 16 years and seemed to get along just fine with ya'll. I was tired of the blistering heat, pollution, and gridlock traffic. Couldn't leave fast enough. Come on, now... the civil war ended a long time ago.
...and what do you mean by, "WAS a cutie"?
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There's one good way around the stringent rules of "antique" license plates... Don't use 'em. Run regular plates. The extra cost is well worth admission onto the highways. And if you'd like to use a collector car as a daily driver, then insure it for that type of use.
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While searching for information, I just stumbled upon a really, really neat website (www.tocmp.com) that makes available automobile brochures in digital format. Manuals, brochures, sales literature, etc. If you're already aware of this site, I apologize for being redundant, but it's well worth a visit. Also, viewers are invited to send scans of their own literature. It's a work in progress. Although downloading costs nothing, they are open to donations.
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Matt,
Email me, please.
StelvioGT@yahoo.com