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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I was told those were used for priming a hand-crank type engine. Gasoline was poured in cup and then pulled into engine when valve was opened. Some engines had priming cups on all cylinders. (That was before 1915) The whistle was there to let you know when the valve had been left open and you had a compression leak. </div></div> These look as if you couldn't pour gas into them (the "whistle" is pointed in the wrong direction to get gas to the cyl). We have a 1909 Hupp Model 20 with priming cups, they are beside the sparkplugs and only about 1/2 inch dia. and maybe 1 inch tall with a ball valve at the bottom. I think these on ebay are whistles only. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Nope...never. I'm guessing that when the valve is opened by pulling a cable from the driver's seat, the compression of that cyl is sent thru the bell whislte. That would create a "hoot-hoot-hoot" sound as the whistle would sound on every compression stroke......?????? Looks like they are all set up for the old 7/8 inch sparkplug thread size, so won't work on anything I have except a '48 Deere or Cletrac.

Hi Joe, You might contact someone with parts cars like Mike Dulinski...I think his email is packsler@aol.com (???) or watch ebay for a set.

I think I recall seeing the same or similar grommets on some 50's GM cars too....maybe Cad & Buick. You might check with Steele Rubber Products.

Yep, could be a dealer installed chrome piece to sex up the showroom appeal. Also, as opposed to today?s ?Just In Time? parts delivery to the production line, I think Packard employed the ?Just In Stock? system during the last days. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The wide bracket was introduced in Vol 30 No. 3 of the Service Counselors (March 1956). It was recommended as a remedy if a cross-wire ignition problem was observed. The brackets were never mentioned as being for Seniors or Juniors, but only as a replacement for the cross-wire problem. YFAM, Randy Berger </div></div> Thanks Randy, I'll take the S/C as being the final word that either is "correct" for both '55 & '56. But like I said, I think the wide ones are sexier! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Hi Joel, Yes, I agree that the "wide" style is more functional, besides looking much "cooler" IMHO. I was mostly curious as to which style is correct for which year. Thanks, John

The recent dual quad thread and the pix posted bring up another question. Which plug wire separators are correct for which year? The 1955 dual quad setup Carbking posted shows the short open top style, my ?56 Carib has the longer thread-thru style with the round rubber insulators/holders. However, I have a ?55 Pat with the original engine (numbers matching) that has the longer version like the ?56. Was the change perhaps a ?running change? that spanned both years? <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Thanks Brian, I've been out of town and just saw your post. I'll contact the guy re the upper shield and see if it was a "one off" or if someone makes them. The lower shield looks identical to what is on my Wheel Horse (er....Packard). I'm not sure what the function is except (as mentioned) to perhaps keep cold air off the front of the manifold so the temp would remain more even front to back. Thanks again for looking up the ebay ads!! John

Hi Jim, I'm sure these companies know the ropes and how to do it, but maybe you can do it yourself if you aren't in a hurry (and save some $$$). I've done it in CA a few times without a title, the DMV has a form to be filled out by a DMV employee (you have to trailer the car to them) or you can have a sworn Peace Officer fill it out verifying the VIN numbers, make etc. I once flagged down a Deputy on patrol and he was glad to do it. Check with your local DMV, each state is different. I know some states require a "Mechanic's Lien Sale" where you post a notice of auction in the newspaper (at your own address) and when no one shows up you "bid" the car to yourself. Let us know how it turns out. John

Thanks Brian, I'm not sure of the function of the lower shield, as it seems to do little more than protect the front of the manifold, but maybe I'm missing something. Speaking of missing something, do you recall who had the upper shield repro on ebay? I need one and I missed that auction. If you see another, pls give me a shout! Thanx John

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">CarbKing, do u sell COMPLETE (not just gasket set) overhaul kits for the Carter or Rochester??? Must include accelerator pump. Do u have the accelerator pump seperatly for sale???? </div></div> Most O/H kits I've seen do have the the pump. In fact you will end up with a bag full of leftover parts when you are through because they usally include gaskets, seals etc. for several different variations of the carb used on different applications. I think Carbking's website lists complete rebuild kits for sale. I've had good luck with the NAPA house brand too (Niehoff, I think).

Hi Jim, No personal experience, but I believe the problem will be that most states require that you surrender the old title before issuing a new one. You might try telling them a little white lie that the original is ?lost? if that doesn?t complicate things too much. You might also try making a high quality color copy at Kinko?s or Staples, and hope you get a clerk that is unaware that they are not supposed to copy original legal documents. Good luck

Thanks Jon, great photos and nice workmanship. Do you (or anyone else) know if there was a difference in the shields from '55 to '56? My car (1956) has a shield that is attached to the two front most cap screws of the lifter-valley cover and extends up only to the base of the front carb. It appears to be factory-made as opposed to something Cooter fabricated from a soup can. Of course I'm not sure what is original and not on my car as it is currently wearing two Carters. Thanks, John

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Doesn't look at all like a Bijur system. Maybe a top cylinder lubricator or a water injection unit? Seems like too many lines either way. Multi port fuel injection? Maybe a still? </div></div> I?ll vote for the still. Cooter & Billy Bob figger'd them revenooors won?t never look under the hood of the ?ol Pakerd. Plus, one of them hoses goes straight to the driver?s seat case ya get thirsty drivin down them dirt roads??.. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Hi Albert, Some of the early pre-war cars (both Packard and others) were fitted with the optional Bijur central "one shot" lube system, but this installation looks a bit too "Cooterized" to be a factory or dealer installation. Also, the endurance run cars I'm aware of were 1955 Pats, this is a '56. I think it is more likely a home brew solution to replace a dead T/L system with airbags or air shocks.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You know that Cooter and Billy Bob are from mars. I'll bet they had a hand in the "improvement". </div></div> LOL...is that where they acquired that strange accent?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> He said the Air-Ride system parts have the Packard name on them ??? (could it be something Packard was experimenting with or a factory option ???) </div></div> Hi Rick, I doubt either is the case, unless this is a prototype of the system used on the 1965 Packard V12........... <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I called the guy that owns the car and he said it was an original air-ride system, (air bags I guess). <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> </div></div> Interesting, Rick......"original" to what??? the guy who jury-rigged it? I think I counted about 12 hoses comming out of the "thing" Maybe it's one solution to a T/L that 's gone on the fritz? The ad also lists A/C, but I don't see any sign of an A/C compressor, so maybe the Martian thingie produces cold air too?....lol. I guess I've been spending too much time lately restoring a 1948 Cletrac Crawler and I've seen quite a bit of "Agro-American" engineering...(like if you lose the air precleaner, just tack-weld a coffee can on the hood) <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I was looking at a newly listed ?56Pat on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...ssPageName=WDVW Looking at the engine bay shots, I see what looks like a miniature Martian Flying Saucer under the hood!...sort of a disk shaped thing near the driver?s firewall with a bunch of wires/tubes/cables radiating from it.

Hi guys, The NAPA # for the 6V pos grnd voltage regulator is VR63. Cheers, John

Thanks everyone, I just ordered a regulator from NAPA, a replacement for the Delco 1118829, 6V pos ground, 42 to 46 amp. When I pick it up Mon I'll post the NAPA part # John

Anyone have a NAPA or other X-Ref for the 6V voltage regulator for a '54? TIA <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I went to my local NAPA store to see what they had for my 1950 288ci engine. If you have similar engine these #s are what you need. OK no oil filter listed but the guy said he could match it to an existing filter element if he had one to look at.(My only 1 is on the car) I have the AC paper fuel filter with the glass screw on bowl dealy and that is part # 3034. Fan belt- # 25-24476 Delco Remy distributor parts- points- # CS777A condenser- # RR174 Rotor- # RR99 Cap- # RR100 Seemed like they have the above for the Autolite distributor too Normal Plugs AC- 43, 44 Champion- J6, J7 Autolite- A3, A5 Hot plugs(oil firing) AC- 45, 46 Champion- J8, J11 Autolite- A7, A9 Plugs ar 14mm 3/8" reach There are many more equivalent cross reference plugs I didn't list. The above should work for 48-50 288 engines and I'd venture a guess on 51-54 288s might also. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi guys, what is the correct size redial tyre for a 55 Patrician ? It now runs on crossplys and I want to change them.Thanks Liam Fallon. </div></div> 225/75/15 should be a good fit.

Thanks for all the replies. I'll stay with the original tranny in the Carib. Does anyone know of a good rebuilder in the Sacramento/SF Bay area?. John