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V-16 engine parts have always been rather easy to source........I have always found what I needed in just one or two phone calls. The only difference between them and parts for a 350 Chevy is the price. V-16 = expensive.
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Stronger than steel, and by then they tend to be trouble free.........I ran my 1933 Pierce 12 one off LaBaron on them and that thing was almost 7000 pounds.........never a problem. I would give them a detailed inspection after purchase just for safety...........it’s the early wood wheels that were problems........
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Wooden wheels were just about done by 1931. A few customers still wanted the look a bit later on. By 1932 steel artillery wheels became dominant, wires second, and wood wheels a long distant third. Drop center wheels were prevalent in 1932......and marked the end of hickory in wheels for the majority.
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There is no more expensive car than a early Cadillac that’s cheap. Look at my list of cars below.
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33 minutes ago, suchan said:
Sold for $38K.
How come there’s never a buyer around like that and I have something for sale? 🐳 🐋
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10 hours ago, West Peterson said:
I would be open to something like that.
Ok.....the brutal truth, please absorb this, with all kindness and trying to be a gentleman.............Since I drove my first big block Pierce Arrow, I have NEVER bought a 30’s car as a keeper that was a Cadillac or Packard.
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More than you.........and the two sitting 150 feet from me as I type this. Don’t nit pick, or I will bust you ass.
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On 2/10/2021 at 8:11 AM, alsancle said:
I was watching one of the Jay Leno in Newport video's yesterday, the one with the twin six Packard. They pull up in front of one of the mansions and they have a PI Springfield sitting there. So they were doing the side by side comparison of the earlier Packard with the Rolls. I would say that 95% of everything Jay says is accurate and spot on. EXCEPT, he was pissing on the Rolls grill and hood treatment which I couldn't understand. From the time I was a little lad I gravitated to the Rolls radiator and hood - especially prewar.
Flat windshield PII.........👎
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37k for a 18K car.........
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5 minutes ago, alsancle said:
Ed, it is not like you to be nosing in on credit. Hehehe.
I can't tell about some of the other great cars I have been involved in ..........this one is in the public view. This is the best one overall.........I get to drive it and you get to pay for it. 🤣 Hehehe.
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Just now, alsancle said:
I'm in.
I would take a copy.
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1 minute ago, alsancle said:
This is such a great thread.
Agreed..........here is a long lost car, that I chased down to a dead end. Published an article on it, and AJ's dad remembered a story told to him in the 50's. He put two and two together ..........and the dug it out of a barn after 50 years...........so, I can take ten percent credit for finding it.
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21 hours ago, Larry Schramm said:
So what's the story on this car?
Another easy restoration..............the pickers said it was worth 50k.
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7 hours ago, John_Mereness said:
Looks like time for new grease
It made it 104 years, should be good to go another 104. Going green don't you know. My new bearings are sealed..........no more grease leaks, thank you very much.
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5 hours ago, padgett said:
Wasn't the Swan Car at Pebble this century ?
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Phil......”With the hands like George the Animal Steel” got down to work, and with some assistance from myself, we got the drivers side apart. The rear wheel bearing is over six inches in diameter, weighs over seven pounds, and can set you back up to 850 dollars each......depending on the supplier. So much for its easy to get, and off the shelf. Anyway, we have a bad bearing on the drivers side, so we ALWAYS do it right........two are on the way. Interesting brake system, it’s about as complicated as a gimbal thrust nozzle on the Space Shuttle main engine pack. Have you ever seen copper friction material on an automobile? It was a new one to me, and everyone I spoke to. The car has a copper sheet riveted to the cast iron shoes, just like it was woven material of the era. Seems this technology came from the oil fields, and after some scientific and engineering investigations into the coefficient of friction of copper on cast steel.........it’s a slick set up. It’s made to disperse water and OIL......yes, it’s self cleaning. I admit it works. First drive we had the car out in the open road, the fire burned off all the oil......and it was clean and good as new. Like the rest of the car, the rear brakes are very well made, complicated, and have way too many parts. Good news is everything looks brand new........so we will get everything cleaned up and serviced. They should be perfect when we are done.
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We decided to tackle the rear axel seal leak..........and at the same time, do the brakes, and install new wheel bearings. Another “easy” job.......NOT!
So, one interesting thing about the White........it’s over built, too heavy, and once you figure it out, simple to work on. It’s the learning curve of the era that tosses the curve balls. Fortunately we have a very detailed owners manual......we can blow up the diagrams and actually see what is going on, and the parts list also helps. And away we go..........
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Update:
It’s been a while since I posted anything on the Great White..........It seems I have suffered a injury related to old age, and have a bad right arm that’s keeping me from doing any useful work for the next 10-12 weeks or possibly longer. It’s a rather painful injury........compare it to your third divorce in ten years with no prenuptial! I’ll live.......but it’s going to slow things down a bit. Still have my trusty side kick Phil. So we will keep picking at the car. The tour is coming up fast, and a I have sent in my registration over a week ago. Looking forward to having it out on the open road. The shaft and the impellers arrived safely, and NASA couldn’t have done a better job than Gary or Joe. Two fantastic gentlemen..........THANK YOU!
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I was implying it’s a national embarrassment that someone snuck it into Holland.
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13 hours ago, 8E45E said:
The 1910 Brooke 'Swan Car' was smuggled out of India a number of years ago, and is now in the Louwman Museum in Holland.
The August, 1976 issue of Motor Trend magazine had an interesting article entitled "The Case of the Lost Albanita and Other Cars That Have Mysteriously Disappeared", which included a couple of Duesenbergs hidden away in NYC, and some speculation on a few of the GM Motorama showcars still that were hidden away and still waiting to be discovered.
Craig
If there is any justice in the world......they will smuggle the swan car back to New Deli.
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Orin......send me your wife’s phone number.......your gonna need another car to do this tour. I have my eye on a nice gigantic Pierce 66 for you. I’ll get her to “ok” the new purchase. Just remember to add a futon in the budget for the new garage.
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On 1/23/2021 at 11:15 AM, 1937hd45 said:
Did they come with fire extinguishers?
No fire extinguisher.........the dash button that says start.......It’s really A self destruct button! 💥
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I was informed today, there is going to be an early “in between” or early CCCA Caravan in October in Ohio. They are going to be running 1916-1930 CCCA Classics........what I was hoping to do, is tilt the entire tour to the very early, obscure, and almost never seen “in between” cars. I’m planning on taking my 1917 White, we are going to ring up some guys to see if we can get Winton's, Cunningham’s, McFarlin’s, Loco’s, Stephens Dureya, the real odd ball stuff that never seems to get out anymore. I don’t think there has been a great line up and tour of such early exotic machinery in sixty years. Maybe a Crane Simplex, Cole, Dagmar........I’m gonna have a friend ring up Leno.......a Doble on tour would be quite a treat. Details will follow......and we will start a new thread. Once the dates are firmed up........a few of us are going to start ringing people’s phones to get the cool stuff that’s been locked away out on the road again...........if it comes together, we will try and do a video of the cars......and maybe a bit of a test drive in each one. With luck, it will be the first of a regular event.
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19 hours ago, Sloth said:
Hello Sir,
Good to read you will give it a try. Just one tip, be careful with the aluminum mold. Make sure that the Babbitt will not stick to it, when I pored the Flander20 bearings, I learned that the hard way. To remedy this, I put soot on the mold (trick I learned out of an old book about pouring bearings). I guess there are other releasing agents, but I used some soot from the shop stove.
Good luck with the poring!
Regards,
Harm
When I was taught to pour white metal (English term) by the Springfield Rolls Royce Works factory employees, using soot as a release agent was all they would. use. They turned a torch up to make maximum soot and apply it with the tip. It's the only way I have ever done it. Simple, and cost effective.
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Period images to relieve some of the stress
in Period Photos - Pre WWII
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Wonder where the wheel disk went. I was fortunate to play around with this car just a bit two or three years ago up in Maine. Interestingly it wasn’t to fix it. It was to measure it. It was going on display down south in an art museum, and they needed to know if it would fit on the elevator. We accurately measured it to the fraction on an inch........and it fit the elevator with about two inches to spare. For my money, I would have denied the cars placement in such a tight spot even though it was only for a brief change of floors. Credit must be given to the owner and collection manager for allowing the car to be displayed in such close and challenging circumstances. I have also had an opportunity to drive one of the others, and a good friend had been a caretaker of a third. This is the one Individual Custom Packard Twelve that never got me excited. It’s a fantastic car, but style wise it never spoke to me.