Smartin
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that derby site IS slow....I'm still waiting for it to load!
This thread has turned out to be pretty controversial...I'm glad I started it
Adam
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Why do we stereotype? Because they're TRUE! There would be no stereotypes if they weren't valid!!!
I hope we aren't offending anyone. Yet I doubt any computer geeks such as ourselves that appreciate cars so much could ever be sucked into the 10th level of derby hell.
Adam
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Ok, so this might sounds stupid, but could the LeSabre 400 just be a name? There was the Chrysler 300...was that in reference to anything?
The Olds 442 was for 4 barrel, 4speed, and dual exhaust. (I believe), but I could never figure out what W-30 meant...or W-29 for that matter.
My question is, does every numerical name have to have a reference? It could just be the lucky number of the engineer that thought of the option.
just my 2 cents...
Adam
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I've never seen derby prizes for more than a couple hundred bucks. You've got to have a large bankroll or half a brain to do this stuff
Adam
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I've already tried the suction cup thing. Those only work on large dents that are relatively easy to bend. There are some dent pullers that use an adhesive and pull the dent out with a screw drive mechanism. Eastwood sells them...I'm a little nervous about my paint coming with the adhesive when I go to pull it.
I kinda like the look of a Riv - anyone got one for sale??
Adam
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I guess it's all about the thrill of driving in one of these. I know I'm really curious about doing it. I just don't want to spend the time and money for a car and then go and wreck the hell out of it. I want to put that time into something constructive like restoring a 71 442
Adam
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T-Type! I remember now...Thanks for clearing my mind up. Those are some pretty sharp cars, not a big fan of that particular body style though.
Thanks again,
Adam
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Thanks for all the replies guys...
This really helps getting other opinions about what I should do about the car. I know it's not worth anything $$$ wise, but it belonged to my best friend's grandmother and when she comes over to visit, she loves to see it running. I think I might drive this into the ground and find a cutlass convertible or something. Or a 70-72 GS? Anyone??
I just get so stir crazy without any projects going on that I just want to tear into this car and make it what I want. I don't quite have the financial means to do that right now, though.
Thanks again,
Adam
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Although I would also hate to see this car go to the derby, I doubt that any derby rat would buy a car like this for $2000 (the current bid). This car is too nice to become a derby donor. Maybe the seller was just trying to get a bigger audience when he put "demolition derby" in the title.
Kinda weird...
Adam
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I am thinking of restoring my 71 LeSabre (currently on the market for sale) but I don't know if it's worth it to go thru the trouble. It's got some rust bubbling through in the bottom quarters and will need new metal welded in. I want to rebuild the 350, mostly because I want more HP
but it also loses compression in one of the cylinders. The interior is good except for the front seat which is ripping as I type this.
The majority of the body is hail damaged
and I'm not sure how to go about fixing it. The roof, hood, righht doors, right fender, right quarter, and trunk lid have lots of large dents peppered on them. Do I just fill them with bondo?? Would behoove me to try to pound them out (at least the ones I can reach)?See the link below (71 LeSabre for sale) for details on the car.
Thanks for anyone's feedback on this issue
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This is where all my 71 LeSabre parts disappear to!!!!!!
No wonder I have so much trouble finding parts. They're all feeding people like this.
http://cocline71.tripod.com/badattitudedemolitionderby/id2.html
This looked like a good car, too...dammit.
Adam
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I never thought of latex, good idea...try that
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I looked at the car extensively...The Rear wheel wells are made of plastic, if you know what I mean, and it's about 2 inches think in some spots. 95% of these cars are amateur resto jobs at best. There is one 57 chevy there for about 49000 that looks good. Also, a 64 impala with 4 on the floor for 23000 - both sweet cars.
Adam
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Overpriced Junk is the perfect title for the inventory of that lot. Plain and simple.
Adam
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I always had the same problem with the paint being tacky on the tires. Although I never tried to fix the problem, I might suggest using nail polish as a possible fix. If you can find white nail polish, try it on a scrap tire (I'm sure you've got quite a few if you're an avid model builder).
Also, I think the "model paint" they use in those little bottles is a bit different than other enamel paints you might find in a spray can or otherwise. Try using a white spray paint (good luck taping it off), but I think the spray paint has a hardener that the bottled stuff does not. I could be totally wrong on this! Correct me if I am.
Adam
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From what I hear it's a common thing especially in the particular body styles where the rear window had a channel that held water. Hence, rusting through to the trunk, etc. I see that as a major flaw in those styles. On some of those chrome pieces surrounding the windows, they would put little plastic sleeve diverters under the chrome (maybe to channel the water out when it hit the window?)...
Maybe we should install drain holes and hoses to divert the water under the car instead of letting water sit in the channels!
Adam
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Thanks rocketraider...It's a shame these cars didn't hold up as well as they might have. I've noticed a lot of could be/current problems with my car that I know must have killed off quite a few of the others...
Such as The Rear Window leaking and rusting out the trunk floor
This also makes for a pool in the rear wheel wells in the trunk rusting out the quarters from the inside out.
When I was doing the body work on my car, I filled the window gutter with silicone so water couldn't get back into it. I had a lot of problems with water getting into the trunk and it ended up rusting the quarters and part of the trunk out..dammit.
I need a GS...anyone have one for sale? Preferrably not in horrible shape
Adam
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It seems to me that the 71 LeSabre is quite a rare find now days...I know the car isn't a popular one with the masses, but why have most of them disappeared? What was the production for this year?
I am having so much trouble finding parts for my car. If anyone has any specific leads or knows of any 71's for sale, send them my way!
Thanks
Adam
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I saw one today for sale in Staunton, IL at a lot by the name of Country Classic Cars.
Look out, you might have a heart attack at the prices on some of his vehicles.
From what I remember, the car was outside in the "restorable" line of cars. He's got about 500 sitting there, it was kind of fun to see what he had, but everything was so pricey that I was driven away.
Adam
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I was ready to pay the $6450 price for the car until I saw it in person. Maybe I'm just a little bit pissed off about the whole situation. The guy told me it had a "brand new engine"....it's got a 455 that's never been touched. The rear wheel wells are nothing but bondo. Out of the 500 cars he had there, about 3 of them were worth the money.
I guess I was expecting to get a little more for my money, maybe not a half-assed resto that I could throw together in a week. I guarantee that if that car ever sees rain the rear clip's going to rust off.
Adam
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I was hunting around on the internet the other day and came across a 71 Centurion convertible in Hemmings.com. The car looked rather good and they were asking $6450 for it, so I assumed it was halfway decent. The car is located about an hour away from me so I went to look at it today.
This guy has about 500 cars in his lot (no joke) and they are all worth about half as much as he is asking on each. I finally found the convertible I was looking for. The first thing I saw was the maaco (could've been earl scheib) paint job. This can't be good. The collector car price guide says that a #1 condition Centurion convertible is $9200, #2 is 7100, etc.
My hail-damaged LeSabre (see link in my signature) is in better shape than this car. Are some people just stupid? Here is the link to the car's ad in Hemmings...also take a look at the dealer's website and see some of the trash he's selling.
Adam
Would you pay 6500 for this car??
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Maybe Elvis DID sweat on it...or maybe there's something else we're missing here. Is all the chrome replaced with gold plate? Are the engine parts coated with Diamond? Why are you asking $15,000 for this car?? Be honest, because I don't think you were with your last post "I OWN THIS CAR AND IT WON'T LAST LONG"
I don't believe that.
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Can we see a picture of the $15,000 car? I'm not up on my late 70's olds'...There has to be a good reason you're asking that much for a Cutlass. I might pay that for a 71 or 72 442, but not a 77 Cutlass. I'd still like to see a pic if you have one.
Thanks,
Adam
Need help identifing a rear bumper.....Please
in Oldsmobile - Buy/Sell
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Looks like a mid 50's bumper...kinda like a 56 chevy...(but I have no clue, just a guess)
Adam