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ACK! How nasty is that??? <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

I thought the Dodge Brothers used the star of David on the hubs? Am I misinformed (as usual)? <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Randy, I am so sorry you had that experience and it is a good thing you posted it! Thank you. You just saved me from making the same error. I put Goodyear Regatta IIs on my '77 Eldorado and I was looking at Coker for the WWW radials for the 1947 Cadillac. Forget it. I have seen this game played before, and quite honestly I thought they were above it but apparently not. I do not accept the excuse that it is due to the rotten economy either. Morality and ethics are not based on economics. Greed is and they clearly wanted out of this responsibility for whatEVER reason. It is inexcusable. And, by the way, I got my Regatta IIs for $80.41 apiece. Best tire I have ever used, period. I don't know where to get a WWW anymore but I think I may put a black wall on the 47 for authenticity.

I also think this is a great idea...except that I cannot work...ummmm....well I guess I can admit to driving my cl...uh...old car since I don't drive very far or often. I see no reason for me not to drive it but I really hate being dishonest and cheating makes me uncomfortable. I also have a old beater which I do drive mostly. I love to drive my Caddys just to do it...to show them off though. Fortunately in Colorado a Classic car registration is based on the car being 20 years or older, in good enough shape to pass a rudimentary emissions test, and money. You pay for 5 years at a hit with no restrictions on use. The only restriction is the insurance if you choose to use Classic car insurance. I was going to 'go off' on the nature of control etc. but having just had a good talk with my father on a similar, though unrelated issue, I realise it is simply reality. Insurance companies and States have liabilities and fiscal responsibilities that can make life irritating if not down right impossible for people trying to make a living or just live. It is all a part of life and should not raise ire since that never really helps any way. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Hi CLC and Cadillac fans! I am looking for the wood trim pieces that are affixed to the door pulls on a 1972 Eldorado convertible. They are metal and painted dark brown in the shape of an acanthus leaf pattern. I have two originals but need the other two. A full set would be wonderful. Thank you!

Well there is another consideration....insurance. I know that Hagerty does not want you driving your honey to work. Now, what they don't know, etc., but what if there is a fender bender? Hmmm. I will admit when I was working, I would drive my car as often as I could (clear days mostly) because A. I love driving my car, and B. it generates so much interest. I wonder if we could convince the INS to accept a specific club day for such an event?

OH. Well if I had to guess...which I do...that looks like a 1964 Cadillac. It has wide white walls and is pink...might even be a fleetwood. Well I feel better about that then! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I went to the site and there is nothing to look at....what am I doing wrong?? Did it disappear? I am so confused! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

I had the same problem with my 47 ... I had the radiator recored, new hoses put on and the engine totally flushed to clear out the water channels. They took out a barrel (no exaggeration) of crud! The thing is, it cost around $149 and I have not had another explosive episode since ... about 3 years now!

I was just thinking of the comments made in the 'fugly' thread under Rants....you know perhaps the 57 Buick Limited and the H2 have something in common in that they share size, ostentatiousness and being way over the top....one thing they will never share and that is a sense of class. At least the Buicks of the 50s were artistic...the Hummers are simply autistic. As Rainman. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

What is really funny is that they look like the runts Charles Atlas tried to beef up in the 50's! The world is a truly odd place now...tough runts with their baggy pants around their knees and boxers blowin' in the breeze. My mother would have boxed my ears into the next life had I even tried to leave my room looking like that! Oh and yes...the tats are nice now boys...just wait until they have a life of their own and try to run laps around your dew laps! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Did you see the latest CCCA Bulletin, there is a 1947 Packard Custom Super 2106 for sale in California for $9200. I know that is not the same as a trade up, but it might be a place to start. Check it out at http://www.home.earthlink.net/~amxfv. Steve Snyder 714-279-0174. Just thought I would pass it along in case you had not seen it!

Who in their right minds would pick on a gorgeous automobile like THAT? Honestly, people! It is all well and good to shoot for the gold but isn't it time to acknowledge a car for what it is? That Rolls is about the most beautiful free standing sculpture I have seen this side of a Bugatti. It is why I love cars, old, older...you know. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I would take it to the show and let everyone see that not only is it a gorgeous car, it runs and is a pleasure to drive!

Was the fake wood grain like the dynoc of the Cadillac and other GM products? I would be interested to know. I remember my 62 Lincoln Continental had real wood veneer on the door panels and dash. I do not mind the look of dynoc really since real wood would have been disproportionately expensive to achieve the same results. Even a well painted pattern is nice to look at, if not as rich in color and depth. When was the last real wood used in interiors? Was that pre-war or pre-30s?

Hi Matt! Is the F-100 a truck? I really do not know...hmmmm....well, anyway, lest we get on the 'C' word again, I will simply say if he likes it, and it suits him (or her!) then it is worth it. Please let me know how it works out and I will try on my end to find out more to help better. I just wanted to say Welcome and respond! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

OH my bad! Sorry Diz...nothing at all wrong with Lincolns. I've had two of my own. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Already done....that is why I have my CLC member number in the footer of my messages. So far nothing on where to get them...but I have sources all over the net so I should be able to find one.

I just reread what Shawn said above and I think he, and Dizz, are right! I am keeping the current color. In fact, I will be having a chip analyzed so I can touch up areas that need it. I also want to install the Halogen rear light adapters so drivers can see the stop lights! But no, I won't put in that icky third light in the back window. I have the RCA jack already in the radio so the CD player, or iPod can sit in the glove box hidden from view. If you didn't know it was there you would never know it wasn't radio! I can do alot of the work I need to do myself with the help of friends. It is true my disability makes this difficult but not insurmountable, and I think it helps me to appreciate the car all the more doing much of it on my own. Of course RO probably feels differently at this point (See his ever lengthening story of the 56 Packard oil pump repair in the Packard Forum) but that will probably change as he starts driving it around to the Piggly Wiggly. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Sorry..I had not checked this thread in a while. Believe it or not I do agree with PB. We should all be dispassionate and clear thinking in whatever we do. I dare say I would have avoided the heart ache of knowing my car was never going to be like new, but then again, that is not why I bought it. I bought it because it was a 1947 Cadillac, not a 2002, in good running shape, needing mostly cosmetic work. It is OLD therefore I realised it was going to cost quite a bit to make it reliable. On the whole it is the best thing I have ever done. I love this car and while, yes, it is hard to sell at the moment I will possess my soul in patience for that 1956 Cadillac I want. If I die tomorrow, well it was best summed up in the book "The Undertaking" when the author said "The dead don't care." Lest you think I am disheartened or pathetic in any way, keep your concern because I am not! I am very happy to have a vintage car, and yes while the seat cloth is not Broadcloth, the car is in its original state. Better than that, it drives and is an eye opener. PB sarcasm not withstanding, I do not feel in any way put upon. I have issues with some of the inevitable hardships of the hobby, who does not? I thought voicing them was part and parcel of discussion...although I did know better really. Still, the general response from the group has been wonderful and I appreciate every note and idea, even PB's (although I never understood why being unpleasant and generally acerbic was considered in "good fun" ...I guess that is a lawyer thing) because he has many very good things to say, and some damn fine data to share. Liking a person is not necessary to appreciating or acknowledging them for their positive attributes. (In otherwords, you have a terrible online demeanor and are probably a pill in person, but on substance you are a very good person to know!) That is one man's opinion. However to get back to the general tenor of what was said, if we were dispassionate and clear headed, the hobby would only be a rich man's hobby; most of the cars seen locally would have been scrapped, and lesser marques would be gone. Were it not for the middle class worker who on his sundays crawls under his car to work out an annoying clatter, we would not have many of the examples that are out there. I am constantly amazed at the work and love that simple, hard working people put into their cars. A personal friend in Estes Park barely makes a living as a carpenter but has had time and the support of his good wife in restoring, yes RESTORING, his Model T to new condiiton over the last 30 years. Would you deny him or his family that pleasure? Most of the people I know in the CLC have low, fixed incomes, and are happily working with and enjoying their cars. I am sure most are not 100 point cars, but that hardly matters really. If the only proper end for this hobby is producing perfect, off the line autos as delivered, then we might as well embrace the government's desires to eliminate old cars and save the museum space for those perfect examples. So I suppose if someone were to tell me they were thinking about getting into the car hobby I would certainly advise them against any pretention of affordibility. In fact I have done so and fortunately they went on to get a marvelous old car enjoying it completely! I thought I would tell you all what is happening with the Caddy. It is getting its new fuel delivery system....I wish I had gotten the advice from the forum BEFORE they started the work but oh well...and I have ordered a totally original OEM exhaust system from a member of the CLC. I am very excited by it. The system should be here in the middle of August. Then I am getting a new set of black wall tires for the car. I am going to radials for ride but I figure the blackwall will make the look. The destruction of the Olds by the drunk teenager was a blessing in disguise really. It means I can start to replace the front end, steering gear and rear springs, and even have the valves and rings done. The object here, now that I am back on track, is to make the car drivable, reliable and enjoyable. I may have broadcloth put in for good measure but I am not too concerned with it. I have the car willed to my son, Jonathan, who wants it so I will not worry about selling it just to get a 56. He thinks he will do that for me....isn't he sweet? Anyway we are on track! No more silliness about car shows, other than local shows, just a nice car to enjoy. I figure were it not for my intervention it would be crushed by now and that would have been a loss. Oh and I still would like to know what methods to use to FIX some of the general body problems...I think Jonathan can weld plates to repair the rust if it goes through. He has done some nice work so far. Enjoy that Packard, Dizz! I hope to see it someday! If any of you are in the Denver area I hope you drop me a line so we can go out for a (non-alcoholic) drink and something to munch. More on the Dutchman as it happens! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Yeah you can say that again, Glenn. I finally decided to take the other guy's insurance company's offer of $4432.30 for the 98 Holiday. It makes me sick to see that beautiful car go but there it is. I will put half of that back into the 47 Cadillac and save the rest. So over all I am content. I would still like another car but that will have to wait until this fall unless one just falls into my lap as the Olds did.

Was the fake wood grain like the dynoc of the Cadillac and other GM products? I would be interested to know. I remember my 62 Lincoln Continental had real wood veneer on the door panels and dash. I do not mind the look of dynoc really since real wood would have been disproportionately expensive to achieve the same results. Even a well painted pattern is nice to look at, if not as rich in color and depth. When was the last real wood used in interiors? Was that pre-war or pre-30s?

I agree with Amphicar here. I do not understand this whole idea that people are jealous or inferior by implication because they may or may not have what someone else has...let alone the idea that it is human nature to be like that. Envy, jealousy, greed, corruption, all of these are present in the human condition but it is not something we should allow as being natural, therefore excusable. I used to have this same argument with an old friend who stated outright that people are naturally immoral, devious, sensuous and deceitful. He contented that because men are by this nature polygamous, we should not expect men to be honorable or faithful. What utter nonsense. We are all more than the sum of our parts or our emotions...we can excell and grow, we are more than the beastal nature that lies at our heart. I can no more accept that we are just naturally worthless than I can stupid...it just appears that way because Society has taken to accepting the minimum each of us can give rather than expecting our best. Unfortunately it is happening that our education systems and expectations have been continually lowered to meet lesser and lesser 'standards'. Does it have to be this way? Absolutely not...it only is this way because we accept it.

I got this information from the CLC forum in the spirit of disemination of information. The amount of delay is controlled by a rheostat at the headlamp switch. The higher the resistance, the longer the lights stay on. This controls the amount of "bleed off" in a capacitor that feeds the base of a transistor that keeps the lights on. Knowing this, if there is no delay, then there will be little or no resistance in the control circuit, the capacitor is defective. or the transistor that it contols is defective. The capacitor and transistor are part of the controller under the das and are not servicable. You can check the wiring to the switch for grounding, the rheostat in the switch, but most common cause for failure is the controller. Before you do this, though, make sure the power and grounds are OK. The proper shop manual is the best bet here for diagnosing the system. Mike CLC # 19861 I looked under the dash, and just below the light switch is a white, plastic box marked Twilight sentinal. This is the box that holds the rheostat and capacitor. I need to replace this one and it should work. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Well yeah...I have garnered a large amount of excellent mechanical information here and it seems, while Cadillac is well represented in the AACA and CCCA, it would be good to see members of the CLC and interested bystanders chatting here as well. I use the CLC forum too. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I am so sorry to hear of your loss, Ken. My son and ex-wife lost 9 cars, 4 antiques, in a house fire in May. They were all in or around the garage (per Hagerty) when an electrical fire set the garage ablaze. The damage does not sound irrepairable but normally fire destroys more than just the obvious. It swells and fatigues metal, roasts wiring and generally makes a mess of the vehicle. Parting out the car is your best bet or just accept any insurance and move on. The cost of repair would be prohibitive on anything but a high priced classic.