[A bit of old vehicle philosophy]

@Jack Bennett

 

You’re a tough person. I wish you the best in life. 

[Oops I did it again... 1920 Dodge Brothers Roadster]

5 minutes ago, Lahti35 said:

Thanks for the kind words!

You’re welcome and they’re deserved. You’re doing a great job covering details of bringing the Dodge back to life. Great detail on stuff that matters. No BS just facts of what’s needed 

[Oops I did it again... 1920 Dodge Brothers Roadster]

@Lahti35

Good stuff! I should probably follow suit with your format and picture descriptions on my project. I’m enjoying keeping up with your project! Thanks 

[An interesting Will It Run video 1923 Franklin]

Definitely something to think about with a car that’s going to be driven on tours. 

[The Story Of A Haynes Model 50]

2 hours ago, edinmass said:

L-N units are typically 12 volt even in the teens. Seems they were popular on aircraft engines more than cars and trucks. I’m guessing it’s a two wire system. 

The manual says I can use a 6 or 8 volt battery. The starter and generator are very well built. Heavy duty internals on both. Working on such solid old pieces  is really enjoyable. I wish everything was built with such durable and serviceable materials and engineering. 

[When you wish you hired a tractor mechanic............]

I work on tractor engines for a living. I know what mechanics are being referred to here! Lol

[The Story Of A Haynes Model 50]

1 hour ago, edinmass said:

After spray welding the shaft I’m surprised it could be cut on a lathe. I would have expected it to be so hard that only a grinder would touch it. 

If it’s applied with too much heat you can’t cut it. It cuts well when applied correctly but cut it to fast and it work hardens then you’re done. When applying the metal powder it it’s too hot it basically burns the material. Too much gas pressure on the acetylene side can do this. Or, too much buildup too fast instead of light passes allowing for cooling and not heat soaking the material. 
 

We typically use ceramic inserts when cutting it. Small jobs can be done with carbide like the brazed tool I was using in the picture. The carbide breaks down when turning  larger items. 

[When you wish you hired a tractor mechanic............]

1 hour ago, wayne sheldon said:

By the way, I once saw an engine a machinist friend had to repair that someone a few years earlier balanced all the rods and other parts. They had ground so much material off the I-beam of one connecting rod that it broke while running and punched a hole in the side of the block.

I’ve seen this with nitrous motors

[Vandalism at AACA headquarters? What’s the story?]

Stupid is as stupid does 

[The Story Of A Haynes Model 50]

Chapter 8 

 

I pulled the big by large starter off. It’s a large Leece Neville unit. I cleaned the brushes and commutator along with the bendix. 
 

It spins well on the bench but I believe needs to be completely torn down and gone thru. 

 

 

[When you wish you hired a tractor mechanic............]

3 hours ago, edinmass said:

 

Just two quick photos of work that even a tractor mechanic wouldn't do.............

 

Model J Duesenberg rods......with JB Weld to ballance them..........yes, this is a real photo of an engine that someone paid to have rebuilt. You can't make this stuff up. And YES, it was a numbers matching open car that was very well known. Remember, the guy who did this is still in business and charging for his work. You can see the newish pistons on the rods. And to answer the question before anyone asks........it's not a car from our collection. 

 

 

 

 

 

To be PC I’ll say WTF on such an assembly. Did the builder think it wouldn’t be driven? 

[1941 Lincoln Continental, Pebble Beach 2013 First in Class $89,500]

5 hours ago, edinmass said:

 

Nice car.........the asking price is 20 cents on the dollar for a restoration, and the car is free. Can't buy much of any open car that is 100 points for that money. 

This sums it up 

[1941 Lincoln Continental, Pebble Beach 2013 First in Class $89,500]

I’m not a fan of these cars. But I recognize value when I see it. Someone’s loss is definitely a buyers gain. 

[When you wish you hired a tractor mechanic............]

1 hour ago, pfloro said:

I am curious:  What is the proper way to balance rods?  

 

Thanks,

 

Paul

Typically you’d weigh all parts of the reciprocal mass and have them equal before dynamic balance. Add or subtract weight to pistons, pins or rods before assembly. Typically find the lightest in an assembly and remove weight individually to match. The crank is dynamically balanced and has weight added or subtracted at the throws. You may look at a crankshaft and see what looks like a drill tip in the counter weight area. This was a point specific area of weight loss by drilling material. Sometimes babit is added to an assembly. 

I hope this is helpful 

[When you wish you hired a tractor mechanic............]

If that’s what passes to work on a Duesenberg? I need my own business 

[When you wish you hired a tractor mechanic............]

@edinmass

 

I’m a tractor mechanic of sorts. I make better repairs on lawn mowers! Lol

probably why we’ve got a 2001 Kohler with almost 10,000 hours on it! 
(Amsoil and Oil Coolers) 

 

 

 

 

[What are you working on right now?]

XW2500 Dixie Chopper repairs, 4 wheeler maintenance and repair along with all types of outdoor power equipment tune ups. Of course there was tractor activity! Box blading a drainage swale for Dad off his new garage. The view from the garage overlooks Cumberland Gap Mt. 30 miles away. Beautiful part of the world 

 

@edinmass I did respectable tractor mechanic things!!! 😂👍🏻

[The Story Of A Haynes Model 50]

@Walt G

 

I realized this morning that I’d not put you in the earlier thread thanking some folks. You’re in the group. Thanks for your help with information particularly with the Boyce parts! 

[Period RACE CAR Images to Relieve some of the Stress]

Cool stuff! Thanks for sharing these photos and stories. They’ll be lost without the effort! Those guys were tough to do what they did then. Truly something to admire 

[Vandalism at AACA headquarters? What’s the story?]

My Pop would’ve said in this situation, It’s best I didn’t catch them in the act for fear of what I might’ve done to them. 
 

What a low life! 

[The Story Of A Haynes Model 50]

10 hours ago, Lahti35 said:

Coming along nicely... Great job on the water pump shaft repair!

Thanks, I was concerned that pressing off the impeller to make another shaft would break it. So luckily I’ve got access to our flamespray equipment. I undercut the shaft .035 and then used a coarse steel shot media blast on it. The material was applied is four light coats. This allows for less heat saturation which provides better bond and eliminates distortion of the part of which it’s being applied. 
 

The chrome, nickel and molybdenum takes special care when turning but makes an excellent seal surface. Abrasion resistant far beyond the mild steel of the shaft and perfect for the rope seal and bushing areas. This really saved me a lot of time spent in fabricating new parts. I did have a friend spray the shaft of whom is the best I know with the application of this. There’s an art to it, somewhere between painting, welding and torch cutting. 
 

Last week and this week progress is slowing unfortunately. Mowing and taking care of things for my in-laws and dealing with other family responsibilities will slow me down a couple weeks. Along with my pesky full time work gig! Lol

Headed four hours away to my dad’s after I finish my coffee this morning! Tis the season for zero turn mower, 4 wheeler and tractor repairs. 

[The Story Of A Haynes Model 50]

3 minutes ago, Roy Haynes said:

Hey Bob. Looking good! Very nice! Glad you are moving forward. We are just now working on getting old tires off. We found some fairly new white walls in Tucson Az last year. Still don’t really know what we are going to do about the engine.

Thanks Roy, 

Hopefully something will work out with your engine soon. Good deal on finding the tires! What a relief it is to have a good rolling project. I’ve learned a lot and hopefully I can help you with information on your car. 

[The Story Of A Haynes Model 50]

Chapter 7

 

With the water pump straightened out I turned my attention to making a new Hardy joint and cleaning up the generator and distributor. 
 

I had to cut the old joint apart to get the assembly off. With nothing available for a Haynes, I got creative. I found some corded conveyor belt that would work for material. Using a 3-1/2 hole saw I popped out blanks. Once two pieces were bonded they were about the perfect thickness. The I drilled the pattern and that was done. 
 

Then a quick cleaning of the brushes, commutator and distributor. I add a new field fuse, cleaned and gapped the points. I forgot to get more pics of that. It’s a Leece Neville generator unit. I wrapped the frail dual wires from the distributor until I get the correct replacements. 

 

 

 

[The Story Of A Haynes Model 50]

13 hours ago, pkhammer said:

Bob! Great to see work being done on the Haynes and some excellent work too! 

Don't forget we have laser and water-jet capability at my work! 😉Thanks for the shout-out above too! I'm certainly going to follow along your progress.

Thanks Greg,

 

I wish we had a water jet when I made my hub nut wrench! I crudely cut a scrap piece of 1/2 drop out with a torch and then cut the eight sided 2-3/4 nut profile out on a prototrak mill. Easy but not as nice as it could’ve been had I profile milled the whole thing. That’s more time than the thing needed invested though!! lol 

 

I sure am glad we grabbed those plugs from you! 

 

[The Story Of A Haynes Model 50]

7 hours ago, 29 Chandler said:

Thanks for posting this. Now I need to find one of these wrenches for my Chandler. Looks like we have very similar port plugs.

I’m going to need one myself too. Probably wind up making mine.