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    Franklin frame sag

    in Franklin

    Posted

    Thanks Paul.  I really am enjoying how so many folks are getting involved with the search. If I was in the market for a Model A I have literally thousands of choices right now which I find bizarre.   It took me 3 weeks to find the right NEW truck I wanted let alone a car built in 1930.  So the search for the right Franklin is something I am glad I started months ago even though I knew the car funds are still about a month off.  I can say now the house being sold is under contract !  So the budget is still the same, just 2 months delayed.  I have been all over the club website browsing through past trek pictures and stories. The friendship reminds me of that within another hobby that I have been a long member of since 1980. I just hate being on the outside looking in so to speak without a car !  Soon it will happen. 

     

    One question. When browsing through pictures yesterday I saw a much restored Franklin that was just waiting for the motor and trans install. Guessing it was a 30 model as a steel frame but no hood.  Good view of the double elliptical front springs.  How did they stabilize the front end from lateral motions when cornering?  Granted with no motor installed they were sitting a little higher then normal.

    Franklin frame sag

    in Franklin

    Posted

    Last night as we were getting hammered with spring storms, hail, 7 inches of rain and 60 MPH winds (all in 3 hours) I looked back on this board going back to 2013 and enjoyed reading the incites and advice from this board. Good advice from good people is a hard thing to come by these days. And not once did I see anyone proclaim in any sort of way that "I am king of everything Franklin so you had better listen to me !".  Nope. What I liked most of all was how everyone would come together on a discussion thread to conquer a problem together that someone was having.  I wish everything in this world of today could be like that.  I also got to see (sniff) some of the great cars that have gone up for sale and passed me by. 

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    Franklin frame sag

    in Franklin

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    There is a late model 1925 Franklin for sale in the Portland OR area but am not too keen on only having a hub brake.  I guess that was the transition year for the  updated grill.  A 1925 Opera Coach Sedan he calls it.  Like the interior.  I see some modern wires going haphazard though.  He has not driven it much in the past 3 years except around the property.   https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/d/woodburn-classic-antique-franklin/6884534818.html

    Franklin frame sag

    in Franklin

    Posted

    Thanks John.  I just thought about the brown on the tires going to work today and could not do a search until now, when I got home. Seems it is a common occurrence is all when tires are not taken care of.  Being it was stored indoors it is not sun burning just the tire aging naturally.  Fits right in line with a car sitting 10 years like they explain in the listing.        https://www.utires.com/articles/tire-sidewalls-turn-brown-prevent/    Being I always dress my tires I have never seen them turn brown before like has happened on the car listed..

     

    I did order a maintenance manual from the club. I prefer to have something I can sit and read anywhere when I have the time as well as take out to the car. I do have some questions though regarding the vacuum tank / fuel delivery system. This is something I have never seen nor have any working knowledge of in a car. But I am a commercial plumber and do understand fluid dynamics. (Shit goes down hill).  I am guessing that engine vacuum pulls a vacuum through a smaller tank that is connected to the main fuel tank. That smaller tank then gravity feeds to the carb located below the bottom of the smaller tank. (?)  I am also guessing the fuel stops being pulled into the smaller tank with something that works like a toilet tank float valve.  Just how hard is it to flush out that smaller tank if I am correct in thinking there is one?  I see many 20's era cars for sale that have listed an electric pump as either a back up or just the straight primary. Would this use of an electric pump be upgrading a problematic "old" technology system of the times? I am thinking that a properly functioning vacuum tank system would be rock solid in the simplicity of it's function. I have not read anything about Franklins vapor locking even though they run hotter then other cars which was a constant issue in my 1940 Ford 2 ton truck until I installed an electric fuel pump.  Texas gets hot and those flat head eights got even hotter.

     

    Brakes.  I am presuming that Franklins were not dual master cylinders. Is it common to upgrade to a dual master or even possible?  Single line systems can be scary.

    Franklin frame sag

    in Franklin

    Posted

    Thank you very much Wm.  I think your right about the Dodge being tougher. Those tapered rear axles make it a joy getting a drum off !  I think I need to jump in a little deeper and get a maintenance manual. With this car and it's price I would be starting out well under the end budget.  By looking at the pictures can you tell if it is an old pot metal carb?  And were the 28's still vacuum fuel tank?   I am also wondering why the tires turned brown like that.

    Franklin frame sag

    in Franklin

    Posted

    Thanks William.  I already joined some months ago when I started looking for a car of this vintage.  Have learned very much about these cars from the members of the club already. I am just a little apprehensive is all on buying a Franklin that needs work as I have never owned a car of this age and am a total virgin when it comes to Franklins.  Getting one that has sat for a good nine years might be over my head due to lack of knowledge is all.

    Franklin frame sag

    in Franklin

    Posted

    I was going over the green Franklin posted for sale on the Franklin club page and I have some questions concerning the frame sag that was common on these year cars. I am posting one of the included pictures from that for sale listing.  The sag can be seen in the one picture through the side mount. First.  Does the sag continue to get worse or is it one of those things that once it happens it reaches a point it won't continue?  Second.  This is the picture from the engine compartment. It looks to me that there is clearance issues with the air hood too firewall and the manifold too firewall.  Is this just an optical illusion from the camera angle or am I correct in thinking that with the engine running you could very well be having an issue with contact and rubbing in the near future if not now already ?Car

    Fluid Drive coupler question

    in Dodge & Dodge Brothers

    Posted

    What are the differences of a fluid coupler originally installed in a 1946 Dodge compared to a 1948 Dodge?  The one in my 46 needs the graphite ring replaced but I was able to make a deal for a complete trans (Mine has a cracked case)  and matched as originally installed coupler set up from a 48. Bell housing, clutch fork, dust boot too.  (Love French Lake Auto) This one spins as nicely and as true like it was installed yesterday and don't want to screw it up removing it to do the clutch on it.  Dry as a bone with zero leaks. Were they still using the graphite ring in 48?  

    Advice / input on buying a late 20's - early 30's car

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Still on my search.  Time is finally getting closer that I will be able to get a purchase in order.  Have had lots of time to research different cars and am leaning very much towards a 1930's Franklin though I do have much interest in the same year Buicks and Dodges.  I do have concerns about never having worked on a car with the differences of air cooled to a water cooled car and that Franklin parts are not as easy to come by.  Each model car though does come with a great club support base. I do already own a 1949 Buick and a 1946 Dodge so there is some level of knowledge there between those two.  When I went to a show a couple weeks ago I had the chance to sit in a couple model A's and found they just seemed a little small for me.  A 1929 Buick fit just right.  Not a Dodge in sight though to compare with.

     

    So folks, please feel free to explain to me why I should buy a Dodge over a Buick over a Franklin over a Dodge over a Buick.

    New Tool questions

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    I have some craftsmen from the 50's I inherited plus a huge mix of stuff I bought in the 80's and have added too for 30 years.  A little bit of everything. And lets not forget the "cheapo" Taiwan yard sale specials used for once in a while shop made tools of grinded down sockets and heated and bent box and open end wrenches.  They all work or follow my fathers tradition of getting chucked over the fence with a few choice cuss words from a busted knuckle.   Quite the collection buried over there.

    What is the story behind your “handle”?

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Besides having a life long interest in old cars,..  Since I can remember I have also collected antique brewery advertising from Brooklyn, NY where my relatives worked for many of the old breweries in the 40's and 50's.   A hobby that started with my father and continues to today over 40 years later. My Ebay handle since Ebay started as well.

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    Repairing Top frame wood

    in Franklin

    Posted

    Could be a good reason to finally buy that mortising and tenon jig for my table saw but I am sure I could figure out a way to use the sled on the router table. Works well with cabinet door frames but maybe the wood on the car would be too big for it.

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