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Thanks a bunch. I sent you a personal email so we can link up. This gets me going in the right direction.

Is it possible to say that since the frame number is 8,602,4XX that this would have been numbered in 1932? I don't see a 3 Ton frame with this range of numbers. Thoughts?

Thanks, that makes sense. I have seen some of those caps. Now I know what I am looking for. Thanks.

Radiator cap is just a plastic fuel cap someone stuck in there. Shroud has a nice lip around oval so, either someone spent a lot of time to modify or took from another vehicle. Hard to find photos of opening, but I know my 39 & 31 are round. I can certainly fix, but before I do anything, I want to make sure it is not the way it was supposed to be. 1932 I believe for ram cap, but not sure if they would have been on this model.

Couple more pictures. Radiator shroud cap opening puzzles me. Need some help on identifying this one. It is oval and not round. Any idea if this is correct? Also, Dodge emblem is a bit different. May help in pinpointing model/year.

Jason, All plausable ideas. The thing that is throwing me a bit is the 8M serial number on this frame. In your listing of Trucks, do you find any 185" wheel base that would have had and 8,602,XXX serial number? I dont see any in my lists, but they are limited. Above you posted some facts on the G44. Do you have something that identifies these specifications you could share? Also, does anyone know when the frame number was applied on the assembly line? Wondering if it was at the time the frame was assembled or when the frame headed down the line to have a body applied?

Several days into trying to determine if the G44 is in fact a factory original or made up of piece parts. I have formed some opinions. But I am also looking for opinions from the forum. The facts as I know them to date. Facts: 1. Truck is on a 3 ton, 185" frame - Serial numbered 8,602,4XX which would put in range of the G44 in the serial number guide. 2. Engine is a 6 cylinder serial 51766. May be preferenced with DB, but DB stamping was very weak and have not been able to confirm for sure. 3. Cab is all steel, id plate is 3 Ton G44. (Serial number lists dont list any 3 Ton G44, however cab data tag does) 4. Cab body number is B22LR13978. I cant link this to any data source I have to help with id. The confusing part is as follows; there is no G44 listed as a 185" or 3 Ton in any literature I have found to date. There is a 1931 185" 3 Ton listed, but serial number would have been DXXXXXX and not a 8M number. There is no 185" anything in 1932 or 1933 that I can find. The parts on the truck seem to match up with the G44 2 Ton in the Truck Parts Manual with everything I have checked this far. My opinion on this is that this may have been a left over 1931 185" frame that was used with the new 1932 G44 all steel cab. However, I need some outside ideas on this one. I dont know if there is any precedence of this type of thing happening with other models. I do know the depression years it seems like anything could have happened. I am open to suggestions. My inspection this far does not find anything out of place like a cab swap etc...... It was redone once in its life, but really only paint as far as I can tell. This may be one of those mysteries never solved, but it is sure fun to try. p.s. Anyone ever find the part number on the frame? if so where?

Here is some more info on the reverse lockout. They show the models, shift pattern etc. This was a four speed. Reverse was all the way to the right and down. The lockout prevented the operator catching reverse when trying to get fourth.

Just found the number on the good drivers side. Number 22. Truck parts book calls it part number 393161.

Took the ring off. I dont see any numbers. There is a Patent number but would just be guessing even with a magnifying glass. The glass measures 9 ¼” inches edge to edge.<o:p></o:p>

I will take the ring off the good one tomorrow and see if there are any numbers. With the bezel on, all I see is Twi-Lite. I will also measure.

Serial was located drivers side, just rear of the front spring mount. Numbers are double spaced unlike my U series Trucks that are single. Made it a little harder to find. Also it was high on the frame rail instead of low like the U's. It is in pretty good shape. It has been painted in its life. A little bit of bondo, but over all very solid and straight for a truck. Will get it put away soon as we need to finish the other two before starting this one, but will get it running and moving around.

John, thanks. Lens is a Twilite. I will take apart and get a number. I found serial number 8,602,4XX. This puts in range as the 32/33 G44. Number puts it nearer the closing serial. Although it measures 185. Using a loop, I think the dash tag says 165. But I got to tell you, I have used my wife's jewelry loop for the first time on a truck project. And I could go either way on the 165 / 185 on the tag. The frame is not modified in any way and this just seems to be an odd duck. The payload is 3 ton according to dash tag. Here are a few more photos to share.

Well, I own a new truck. Still trying to find and raise the frame number. The body number is B22LR13978. The wheel base is 185. The frame was not extended and appears to be original. Has the reinforcement plates as shown in the Crestline Dodge Trucks book by Bunn, Page 58 upper right. All steel cab. I believe it to be a 1932. Engine is 6cyl engine number D 51766. I believe I may be missing a couple numbers to the left. They were stamped pretty light ad having trouble making the out. Jason, if you three ton book shows serial number location, that would be helpful as I am having trouble finding it on the frame. Haven't given up the usual places yet. More elbow grease required.

See, this makes sense with what I know so far. What is funny is that I cannot find a G44 in the serial number list at 185". I will have more info on Sunday to hopefully solve this bit of a mystery. Jason, this helps for now. I will have more questions on Sunday.

Interesting stuff. I am looking a truck I will not see in person until the weekend. It is a model G44. There is some descrepancy on its year, and I dont have the serial yet. However, the body number is B22LRXXXXX. Based on the model, it should be a 32 or 33. Once I get the serial etc.... I will be able to pinpoint. However, the LR discussion is interesting as I have been diggging though my materials to try to make sense of the B22LR number. And until I found this post I was lost.

Jason, that would be great if you find it. I will get more details over the weekend.

I will know more after the weekend and will post more pictures. This truck has duals. I did some quick calculations based on a picture, overal length, length of cab and other know dimensions, and came up with a wheel base of 184. So I think odds are pretty good that the actual wheel base is 185. Once the tag is verified and serial number, it will give me the data to hopefully track this down. Stay tuned.

Jason, that helps, but the mystery is the plate that says 185". I am wondering if this could possibly be a "Special" or maybe a 1931 3 ton left over with a new 32 steel cab. Will know more after this week end as I view it myself. The picture does not give me enough clarity to see if it says 165 or 185. But I am told it actually measures 185 axle center to center. If it truly says and measures 185, it dies appear in any model list I can find. The key will be for me to find the serial.

Personnally I did not measure. However, I am being told it measures at 185". Hence my trying to narrow down what this is. But if I am reading the plate right, it makes this a 3 ton regardless of the wheelbase. And what is funny, in the serial number lists I have, I do not see any 3 ton G-44's. Only two ton. As I get more info, I will post, but this one is a bit of a mystery at this point. As the plate itsetf, just on the weight and model, dont line up with the serial number lists.

Got it off dash tag. Tag is universal for G43 and G44. Has both listed. G-43-A-Wheelbase 136, G-44-A-Wheelbase 165 (or 185, cant read it that well). I have a cab number of B22LR139XX. Have not located a serial yet. However, my parts book and other books I have only list 136 and 165 wheelbases. And only 2 ton models. According to plate, this would be a 3 ton. Roughly 3200 vehicle weight and 10500 gvw making capacity just over 6000 lbs. So it is a little bit of a mystery. Serial number will help when I can find. But doing this remote so have to bear with me.

I am looking for any information on the G44 model Truck. I have some info from the truck parts book and DB magazine, but trying to figure out if there was ever a 3 ton 185" wheel base model. It appears the G44 was only 32 & 33. I do see reference to a 185" in 1931 but without the G model code. I am trying to determine originality of a vehicle. Being a truck, who knows what may have been done to it in 80 years. Also, any idea on serial location on this vehicle would help too.