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I take in what you are saying but note on the OP that there is a 'join', along the hood at the level of the top of the fender. A puzzle. It might be an optical illusion but the wheels on the OP car look to be exceptionally large. Maybe 36 x 4? Or bigger? Olds of that era, the models lesser than the Limited had wheels at least that big. About the only make I can glean info from The Standard Catalog. I can't find my 1912 Floyd Clymer catalog which list tyre sizes in the car specifications but the 1914 one show plenty of big cars with 27" rims and I recall the 1912 issue shows cars with 28" and 29" rims. I agree on the possibility of the 1911 Rainier. The picture in The Standard Catalog of the 1909 car hints at it. Just need to sort that hood hinge joint.

Car in second photo - Calthorpe Minor? Or maybe a Singer 10? We have a local English type trial. It started here near Christchurch about 1990. For about the last 20 years it has been run at the same farm and is very popular. The event is influenced by the English events but our rules are a bit more relaxed. Most of the cars are not road registered, and the courses are quite short. A small English car is almost a prerequisite (read Austin 7) but we have a lot of fun on our stripped 1926 Pontiac. In recent years my two boys have taken over the driving. Two pics from 2014 and the other three from 2017.

I don't think either the Matheson or Stoddard-Dayton radiators are a match. The radiator is more towards the shape of the Rainier radiator, but the Rainier car is too small.

I did consider Stoddard-Dayton but the curve of the radiator is wrong.

Dags might be a foreign word to those on the other side of the Pacific.

We just need to find a 1910/11 car with those fenders, along with a rounded radiator. Note the 'edge' bead on the front of the radiator, to be seen between the fender and the license plate.

And Stevens-Duryea. http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_583469-Stevens-Duryea-Model-AA-1911.html

Locomobile is one of many makes who did that fender style. It was only fashionable around 1910-11. Pic courtesy of TheOldMotor.

We look forward to it.

Keiser, Those hubs are six bolt. The OP car's are five. I am not convinced on Royal Tourist. The wheelbase of those was only 114". The OP car looks to be longer and have really tall tyres. I think what we are looking at along the top of the hood is a hinge joint.

I wonder if this might be a Royal Tourist. The round radiator and what looks like removable covers on the hood? The Standard Catalog does not list a speedster amongst Royal Tourist's offerings but.....

I'm told the plate is 1910-11.

Being a Junior 8 it must be earlier than 1929. A pity that the pic of the id plate is blurred. Depending on the year the engine is less than 200 cid.

A big speedster from around 1910. Rounded upper part of the radiator should be a clue. It is a pity they put the plate on the front of the radiator in that time. Makes the cars hard to identify. Tyres are not solid rubber, just very small section by today's standards. Only five hub bolts will narrow the field. Maybe Matheson??

The quoted date of 1923 eliminates Chrysler from the equation. I reckon it is likely to be one of the more obscure makes.

Those Balcrank bumpers are no help in identifying because they were mostly sold aftermarket, or as accessories. That Willys-Knight we saw a few days ago had them. The only car I have seen that had them as a factory option. I agree the logo on the spare tyre cover may not be factory, although the car is obviously near new. I think if we can get the date of the photo we might be better informed..

The Chrysler ribbons point down to the right and not up to the left. http://blog.chrysler.com/history/chrysler-heritage-1924-chrysler-six/ I think it is too early to be Chrysler. Date around 1920 maybe?

Top, Bugatti Type 50 circa 1930 and below it is Edsel Ford's custom 1934 roadster.

Distinctive Balcrank bumpers on the coupe. I should recognise that logo with the maker's name on the angle like that and something pointing up to the left. Willys-Overland? The car looks new there. I think the touring car on the left is a Ford T. Photo date 1918-1920 maybe??

Seven-passenger touring cars were quite common in the era up to the late 1920s. Nowhere near as numerous as five-passenger cars but many manufacturers offered them.

When you see the insides of the earlier Fiats (I had most of a 1916 2B many years ago), you can see that the 501 is a progression of those engines. I note in the info above that Cavalli was responsible for both the Zero and the 501. One thing I remember about the 2B engine was that every piece of it was stamped with the engine number.

In each year around this time Lozier did a shorter and longer wheelbase model and I suspect this is the shorter one.

There is a 1914 car in this video which has hidden hinges and handles, so maybe the October 1913 ad is for the 1914 models.

This one is also noted as 1913 Lozier, but it has external door handles, and hinges, along with the mouldings in the valance panel.

'Ad from October 1913', is what the caption says.