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Hi Folks, Many thanks dodedh2 for your thoughts. I doubt it was a factory option and I did notice the comment mentioned by Leif in the Standard Catalogue. It would seem that the car is a cca 1921 Essex Touring and that it indeed has been fitted with an aftermarket 'California Top'. I could not find any pictures anywhere of an Essex Tourer with that type of roof. Interesting to trawl through the various 'California Top' makers. It seems trhat the Gould top would be a close match. Again, Many thanks for your help. Kind Regards Vintman (UK)

Hi Folks, Would appreciate your help again. The attached rather grainy photo from the USA seems to show a cca 1921 Essex Touring; smaller bowl headlamps, slatted radiator. At least, the windscreen seems to be a Tourer because it is raked rather than upright as on sedans. However the side windows seem to have a 'sedan' type of 'body' which seem s to be too good as add-on weatherproofing. Either this is something 'special' or it ‘aint an Essex?? Regards Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org

Could it be cca 1920 Commonwealth or perhaps c 1920 Oldsmobile?? Regards Vintman

Hi Leif, You have confirmed that it is not Scania Vabis, and we are a little concerned about Casper's thoughts of it being a Dux. I doubt it. The one at Prewarcar may well be Dux in view of the sloping hinge line which Dux did have early on. There were many cars in Germany in the '11-14 period that had the oval shaped radiator top generally similar to the one in the photo. Soon thereafter they all went for the spitzkuhler pointed rad as the fashion changed. This is a pre WW1 car from the acetylene lamps probably photographed after WW1. Two of us here feel this is a German car that may have been carried over and made just after WW1, before they changed to spitzkuhler rads. We think this is a cca 1918’19 Presto 8’25 Tourer. The lower radiator top is radiused and the badge is raised proud and central to the spacing between the top and bottom. Before, in cca 1914 the lower rad top was horizontal and the badge was flat. Soon after the rad became spitzkuhler but the badge remained raised and proud in the centre. So we recon cca 1919 Presto P8 8’25 Tourer which we know was made to just after WW1. Regards Vintman

Hi Leif, Have you guys positively ruled out the Scania Vabis. I assumed that as it is your home car, you would have identified it. I dont think this is one, but 1915/19 type 1 and 2 did have radiators that were vaguely similar. Regards Vintman

Not if you look very carefully. Arround 1914 some of the models did not have external filler caps on the scuttle. Vintman

Hi Leif, See the photo now! Looks very much as if the chassis is a cca 1916 Winton 6 33. Regards Vintman

I think the photo is missing!!

Hi Leif, Looks very much like a cca 1914 De Dion Bouton. Gas lamps, no filler cap on scuttle, exposed rear spring all suggest probably made before WW1 and used in the war. They made six models in period and this looks one of the smaller fours; EX DX EK or EL. Regards Vintman

Had checked. Crosman is not in any of my encyclopedias.Guess Crosman was the name of the owner? Vintman

Hi, Intriguing. Don’t think is any of the above. I think it is a lot more obscure. I would go for a cca 1906 St Louis 4 cylinder Touring. Radiator is similar with pointed bottom rad tank, curved open rad support brackets, vertical grab handle for the bonnet, rearward slating louvres, circular cups for wheel endbearings, spindly dumb irons, rear draglink, splayed front mudguards, curved dashpanel, slightly curved roof irons, double quadrant lever assembly on steering wheel, 12 spoke road wheels etc.etc. Various mentions on the internet but the following is a good one: http://www.american-automobiles.com/St-Louis.html Regards Vintman

Thanks Dave and Dictator for your thoughts, and to Casper for his suggestion. I had looked at normal British makes but nothing has come to mind. Tend to agree with NZ about Hornet size but Wolseley Hornet was made in a bigger looking version with bodies by Swallow etc. Very nice cars, but none have the bulbous bodywork under the bonnet. Overall feel of the car is low budget but the coachwork looks nice.Very annoying that something that appears so relatively simple will have to go down as UNIDENTIFIED!! Regards and Thanks Vintman (UK)

Hi Folks, After contacting many of our experts, they have given up on this one which they think could be British. To me this has an American feel of cca 1930/32. Photo from UK but enquiry from Canada of Canadians in UK in the late 1930s. Enquirer suggests a possible Austin. Would appreciate any suggestion to follow up! The bulbous bit of bodywork at chassis level behind the wheel must surely be a pointer to somebody, as is the step plate without a runningboard. Regards Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org

1920s Wills St Claire ?? Looks like a cca 1923 A68 Touring Vintman

OK, having been researching Regal further and it seems the 1915 Regal had the two apertures in the skirt and a radiator which matched. Unusual apertures not noted elsewhere? There were three cars available 1915: Light Four, Standard Four, and V type Eight. Found an ad dated 1915 where the louvres do not match, and found another ad dated 1915 where they slant and match, but the bonnet is too long, probably the V 8. Also this is an artists drawing and the apertures are not shown. However as Dave Henderson says, lots of things match, including the type of windscreen. Standard Catalogue does not show any slanting louvres, and the photos are too dark to see any apertures, which does not help. So all things considered, I guess it is probably a cca 1915 Regal Light Four and thank to Dave and Leif for hanging on in there !! Regards Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org

Thanks to all for the efforts so far and am making last plea for any new suggestions. Regards Vintman UK www.svvs.org

Hi Folks, Need a bit more help again please. Have been looking at the attached photos and doing lots of research but not getting anywhere. Seems an American car in America. Vaguely like a Chevrolet 490 but it isn't. Starange apertures in the skirt should help somebody. Body and louvres are common fashion of the day. Would much appreciate your assistance. Regards Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org

Hi Folks, Many thanks for your thoughts. I have done further investigation and cannot find any waterfall grille Buick with downfacing wipers. The photo was apparently taken in Holland so it being a European version makes some sense, except that I have found nothing with with downfacing wipers. McLaughlin wade a RHD version but not with downfacing wipers. So all very puzzling! Thanks again. Vintman

Hi Folks, A couple of us feel that the attached is a cca 1936 Buick but it seems to have downfacing wipers which my photos of Buicks or GM did not have. So very puzzled and would appreciate your thoughts on make, year and model? Regards Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org

I am relatively sure this is the bigger and very expensive 28'95 Joswin made in Berlin Germany with generally Szawe bodies and Mercdes engines. Joswin were made 1920 to 23 . Most pictures have angular radiators but more smoother ones appear on sports/racing cars. Regards Vintman

Hi all, Received this one from US. They want to put the photo on the headstone so would like to know make model year. It seems to say Chrysler on the boot and and horisontal rear lights suggest 1942. Some of the other boot ornament seems to confuse, so would appreciate precise clarification. Many Thanks Vintman UK www.svvs.org

Hi Keiser, Many thanks for the info. Much appricated. Will shortly put up another where I need help. Regards Vintman UK

Hi Folks, Would request your help in identifying the attached photo apparently taken in Russia of a Diplomatic car. This is a bit outside my comfort zone being a relatively recent car. I would also like to advise that the SVVS Help Pages have reached the 2,000 identifications mark and would therefore like to thank all those at the AACA who have helped us reach this fantastic milestone. Many thanks to all!! Kind Regards Vintman UK www.svvs.org

Must be your Manchester, not ours!! Regards Vintman UK

Hi Craig, Guess you have cracked it. Many thanks. And thanks for attaching the photos which prove that 'a picture is worth a thousand words'. I have not seen the upper two pictures before. The middle one even has the windscreen that Leif was talking about. I am guessing that my photo must be of a slightly earlier car because of the larger headlamps and simpler non tulip body. Possibly just before after WW1. Again, many thanks. Kind Regards Vintman