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  1. Correct ! One of the first Citroen busses was introduced in Paris in 1931 when Andre Citroen wanted to become a bus operator as well as manufacturer. Flat upright radiator means it was based on the Citroen C6 car. The first bus was a steel bodied Citroen C6G1 22 seater of which 800 were made between 1931 and 1933. A larger 29 seater Type U45 was introduced at end 1933 for long distance routes which Citroen entered in the Monte Carlo Rally!! Finished winner of class as no other busses on the Monte! C6 was also a basis for a range of trucks. Regards Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org
  2. Picture below is indeed a British Bullnose Morris. Brainchild of William Morris and introduced in 1913 as the Morris Oxford. It was made up from bought-in components. It was called a ‘ Bullnose’ not because of any resemblance to a ‘bull’ but because it had a rounded nose like a ‘bullet’. Small car with 1018 cc four-cylinder side-valve engine from White & Poppe. On this photo registration is not visible so is no help with dating. However, strong identification features is the ’three light set’ (two headlamps and the rear lamp), with the with small headlamps being mounted on the wings. As this configuration was manufactured for only two years, (1922/23) we can safely say that this was Oxford’s bigger and more expensive brother, a cca 1923 Morris Continental Cowley Bullnose Tourer. The Cowley was introduced in 1915 as a four-seater powered by a Continental engine and made up of largely American components. However, war intervened, and many Continental engines ended up at the bottom of the Atlantic. To compounds problems for Morris, Continental then discontinued the engine. After the war in 1919 the British branch of Hotchkiss made a copy of the Continental engine for Morris, who eventually bought the British Hotchkiss Factory and carried on making this engine to 1926. The Cowley transfigured many times until 1960 Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org
  3. BE 785 is a Lindsey County Council Registration in what used to be the Kingdom of Lindsey in 7th Century where they spoke Brittonic. Area is between the Humber estuary and the Wash, absorbed into the ancient area of Nothumbria and Mercia. Lindum Colonia was the Roman name of the settlement which is now the City of Lincoln in the county of Lincolnshire. Precise Lindsey registration dating records are lost but known BE 830 was registered in 1910, so this car was of that period. The car is relatively unusual having been manufactured in Wolverhampton in central England by a company that was known for the Star range of cars and lorries made between 1898 to 1932. (No connection with the American Star which had to change its name to Rugby in UK and Colonies.) At the time Star was UK's sixth largest car manufacturer producing about 1000 cars a year. Star began by making bicycles 1893 changing the name to Star Cycle Company in 1896. Started making the ‘Star-Benz in 1898 and changed name to Star Engineering. Export became important, specifically to the Antipodees. Meanwhile Star Cycles run by founder’s son making cycles and motorcycles eventually entered the motor industry themselves making cheaper versions of the Star as Stuart and Starling. In 1909 the two branches of Star formed a subsidiary called Briton Motor Co, making cars badged as Britons, and also took over making Starling and Stuart. The first two Britons were a 2282 cc 12 hp twin and a 2413 cc 14 hp four. The car in the picture appears to a cca 1910 Briton 14HP Two-Seat Tourer. regards Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org
  4. Brooklands have a motorcycle museum https://www.svvs.org/brooklands12.shtml Vintman
  5. Hi Folks, Some pages back earlier on there was a string on the "Brooklands Track'. You may be interested that the track is now an industrial estate with only a very small part of the banking and the Club House retained. In 2017 after they moved the Bellman Hangar and completed the factory car parks I took the photo below of what remains of the main straight. Some other photos on https://www.svvs.org/brooklands17.shtml Regards Vintman(UK) www.svvs.org The new view of the Finishing Straight and Members Banking in the distance with the Bellman Hangar gone. Rest is now car park for industrial units and normally packed with cars.
  6. No history or location mentioned but is would seem to be in the tropics. This is a very high quality Belgian car made in Antwerp. One of the First of the rounded rather that flat fronted radiator type, but still with the smaller diameter wheelhubs. This would seem a to have been made around WW1, and little difficult if pre or post. Probably post. so likely a cca 1919 Minerva 20HP Limousine. Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org
  7. Hi Folks Poor damaged photo. No history or location mentioned. Would be very nice to know some background on the photos. We feel this is the same car as depicted on one of the other posts from same sender. If so, it would be a just pre-WW1 car but which had been updated/modified in the meantime with bolt-on wheel disks. Other items in same location. We tend to agree with Mark Dawber who suggests a Wolseley but we think likely cca 1914 as wide radiator but exposed hinges, a 20’30 or 30’40, perhaps the Colonial version. Last of the Vickers Wolseys before Morris>BMC takeover. In 1921 Wolsey was the biggest motor manufacturer in Britain. Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org
  8. Hi Folks, No history or location mentioned but is would seem to be in the tropics. Would be very nice to know some background on the photos. We feel this is the same car as depicted on one of the other posts from same sender. Seems to have stoneguard on low hight radiator, four vertical rear louvres, tall water filler cap, squared off mudguards. We tend to agree with Mark Dawber who suggests a Wolseley but we think likely cca 1914 as wide radiator but exposed hinges, a 20’30 or 30’40, perhaps the Colonial version. Last of the Vickers Wolseys before Morris>BMC takeover. In 1921 Wolsey was the biggest motor manufacturer in Britain. Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org
  9. You guys told me some years back that this pattern of Automatic Starter was spring loaded. We have on one of our entries: “Friends at the AACA advise unit has a self re-winding after start heavy-duty spring, released by a pedal. This was an after market accessory.”. Bulbous round front but a small central lable advises this is a Ever Ready Automatic Starter which came in three sizes, $80, 100 and 125. This was marketed by Auto Improvements Co New York. The Volkmar is similar in appearance but has stubbier nose with a larger flat front. Regards Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org
  10. cca 1909 Motobloc Landaulette Regards Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org
  11. Hi Folks, I checked with our friend Ariejan Bos in Holland who seems very good at sniffing out oddities and he advised: ” …I did some checking and in my opinion Daniels is correct. The second photo already shows several details which are similar to the mystery photo like hood bracket and handle. On page 158 of the 1920 Handbook of Gasoline Automobiles several details match like louvre pattern, rad emblem, side light. Same wire wheels, which seem to have a D in the middle. The mystery photo however must be a custom version with the steps instead of the running board and the slightly different top style.” Regards Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org
  12. Hi Folks, Would request your help again please. Have received photo in UK concerning Grandfather in South Afica with a number of American cars. This one has stumpped a couple of our experts as not very much to really see! A hole centrally in the apron and quadrant on the steering wheel. No door handles. Louvres look vertical. As door is open, quite visible dashboard. RHD ! Any Suggestions Please? Regards Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org
  13. Great work Ariejan. Got me interested so further research suggests that Phénix actually made the car chassis (maker of engines nowhere mentioned) and that they were bodied by Ateliers Loustaunau. Phénix was apparently a follow-on to Prunel Freres, Dumas & Cie in Puteaux 1900-1907, who made the Prunel, Prunello and the JP car. These were also marketed in England as the Gnome. Prunel were apparently active to 1914 and factory was used 1912 to 1914 to make the Phénix car. These were advertised at the Paris Salon of 1912 as coming in 10, 12 and 14HP fours, shaft drive. Confusingly, the address for the Phénix cars at the Salon was shown as Loustaunau - Carosserie Phénix, Ile de la Jatte, Neuilly-sur-Senine, this being on the island in the Seine. Alternative information suggests only two models were made on same chassis but 1460 or 2121cc engines. The Prunel Company was also involved with Boyer Cars, these being made in the Prunel factory in 1906. Boyer Cars were marked in England as York and in USA as Boyer. I cannot find any mention of Phénix putting bodies on other people’s chassis. My pictures of the original Phénix have carbide headlamps so perhaps this car had later electric headlights fitted in England. The wheels would have been wire and it was common in the UK to fit conical wheelcovers to hide the spokes. As Prunels were available in UK, a dealership for the Phénix would have been existing for the UK market. Phénix were only mentioned pre WW1 so am presuming manufacture no later than 1914, although photo could be later. My only photo of a surviving Phénix is of a two seater with no facility for the roof system, which further suggests a possible Loustaunau addition. So to my way of thinking this would seem to be a cca 1912_Phénix Two Seater'Dickey Transformable with a three position top, bodied by Loustaunau. I have had a go at cleaning/repairing of the original photo. Regards Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org
  14. Hi Leif, Just to confirm for the record that this is a cca 1906 Darracq 20'30 Tourer and is not a NAG. Regards Vintman
  15. The car is French, made by one of the earliest auto makers in Paris France. The confusing bit is that although it seems to be the same car with the same children photographed about the same time, the louvres on one side are different to the other side and the plated rad surround is damaged in one photo and not in the other. Tallish rad with a cooling flap on the top of bonnet, which fits to this beeing a cca 1904 Panhard Levassor C/H 15CV Tonneau 3296cc inline-four O4R. About 730 of this model were made. The roof is probably local, typically American, being a ‘Surrey’.
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