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  1. Hi Folks, Would request your help again please. Have received photo in UK concerning Grandfather in South Afica with a number of American cars. This one has stumpped a couple of our experts as not very much to really see! A hole centrally in the apron and quadrant on the steering wheel. No door handles. Louvres look vertical. As door is open, quite visible dashboard. RHD ! Any Suggestions Please? Regards Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org
  2. Great work Ariejan. Got me interested so further research suggests that Phénix actually made the car chassis (maker of engines nowhere mentioned) and that they were bodied by Ateliers Loustaunau. Phénix was apparently a follow-on to Prunel Freres, Dumas & Cie in Puteaux 1900-1907, who made the Prunel, Prunello and the JP car. These were also marketed in England as the Gnome. Prunel were apparently active to 1914 and factory was used 1912 to 1914 to make the Phénix car. These were advertised at the Paris Salon of 1912 as coming in 10, 12 and 14HP fours, shaft drive. Confusingly, the
  3. Hi Leif, Just to confirm for the record that this is a cca 1906 Darracq 20'30 Tourer and is not a NAG. Regards Vintman
  4. The car is French, made by one of the earliest auto makers in Paris France. The confusing bit is that although it seems to be the same car with the same children photographed about the same time, the louvres on one side are different to the other side and the plated rad surround is damaged in one photo and not in the other. Tallish rad with a cooling flap on the top of bonnet, which fits to this beeing a cca 1904 Panhard Levassor C/H 15CV Tonneau 3296cc inline-four O4R. About 730 of this model were made. The roof is probably local, typically American, being a ‘Surrey’.
  5. Hi Folks, Many thanks for your kind responses. I have been doing further research and have been in contact with Wayne Historical Museum to see if they have any records on the Harroun cars, but seems not. So therefore in the absence of a negative, I am led to believe that the photo is indeed of a cca 1921 Harroun AA2 Touring, and that this may well be the only photo in existence of this car. I have written a short article on my findings on our website Help Pages at http://www.svvs.org/Probably_c1921_Harroun_AA2_Touring.shtml . Thanks for your inputs
  6. Thanks to both. I now see the headlamps were moved as holes still on the side of the wing. Have also looked in detail at Buicks and JVP may well be right with his suggestion of Buick. Has much in common with the 1919 H45. Many thanks and Regards Vintman (UK)
  7. Hi Folks, We have had another enquiry for identification we are having problems with. Origin is UK but no history as to origin of the photo. Military driver and military personnel. Obviously some sort of parade with newsreel filming the event. No visible numberplate so no help in identifying country. However seems to have a British policeman on the right and car is RHD. Most peculiar type of headlamps are mounted on the wings, not a normal UK pattern, and there seem to be no separate sidelights, normally required by law in UK. However the car does not look British and wheels s
  8. Hi Folks, Some fabulous information coming out on this one. Lovely to have the Harroun logo. Had copy of a damaged one which I photo repaired so pleased I got it right. Could not help noticing that Todd’s name is Haroun; so presumably from the family? So I guess the family do not have any photos of the 2AA. Regards Vintman (UK)
  9. Hi Leif, Bit of a difficult one. The only photo I have that has a similar conical front to the radiator is the Hermes. They seem to have a complicated history but I don’t think this is one of the Belgian-Italian Hermes cars as these apparently had a Renault type bonnet, and they closed in 1909. It could be from the early Mathis history when Émile Mathis asked Ettore Bugatti to design a couple of types of cars for him. Emile was at the time mainly a dealer. Hermes Simplex ended 1906. However theres seems to be a photo on the Internet that is labelled as Hermes 1912 type 00U0 12 Hp
  10. Hi, Does look early British pattern which would have been black background and alluminum numbers. Slightly confused by traces of black paint on the numbers; oxidation?? If it is British, it would be Surrey County Council registration of cca mid/late 1925. The county of Surrey is on the sout western periphery of London.. My only concern is that early British pattern plates were used throughout the "Empire".. ill ask NZcarnerd to advise if New Zealand? Regards Vintman PS This would normally be a rear numberpl
  11. Hi Folks, Useful thoughts Dustycrusty. Thanks for your input Leif. Commonwealth was indeed one of them, but the one I was thinking of, and have now found, is the Cole as below. Agree with Keiser, neither match but certainly evident that fashion went in definite phases. We may just have quite a unique photo here! Still digging. Regards Vintman
  12. Thanks Dustycrusty. Further digging revealed photo was taken at "Hough-McRae Motor Company showroom at 3829 South Fox Street in Englewood Arapahoe County Colorado" and confirms the Harroun car connection. However, search on Google streetmaps suggests the address is very much in a resedintial area?? Could anyone please advise which is the car that the radiator is remiscent of ? Thanks Vintman (UK)
  13. Hi, We at the Surrey Vintage Vehicle Society (UK) have an active Help Page on our website (currently http://www.svvs.org/help152.shtml) where the general public can get free assistance with identification of old cars from old photographs. While searching for answers we often come across photographs of interesting vehicles which we put aside for later study/investigation. One such case is a photo, which is attached, showing a car that we have subsequently not been able to identify. The photo is titled “Hough-McRae Motor Co”. The car dealership in the background is for Harroun Cars.
  14. Hi, Rover 8 was a British car made in Coventry in a number of variants/model years starting in 1904 which had a single cylinder water cooled engine. The photo shows the newer variation introduced after WW1 in 1919 and built until 1925. These were air cooled twin. These were never fours. The engine was a horizontally opposed twin across the chassis and the bonnet had large air scoops for drawing in cooling air directly onto the cylinders. These scoops cannot be seen on this photo, being hidden by the wing of the car.. The radiator was a dummy! Rover 8s grew in engine size but are ver
  15. Hi Fleek, Many thanks, seems you have nailed it. Much appreciated! Vintman(UK)
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