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  1. Hi Folks, Many thanks for your kind responses. I have been doing further research and have been in contact with Wayne Historical Museum to see if they have any records on the Harroun cars, but seems not. So therefore in the absence of a negative, I am led to believe that the photo is indeed of a cca 1921 Harroun AA2 Touring, and that this may well be the only photo in existence of this car. I have written a short article on my findings on our website Help Pages at http://www.svvs.org/Probably_c1921_Harroun_AA2_Touring.shtml . Thanks for your inputs Regards Vintman (UK)
  2. Thanks to both. I now see the headlamps were moved as holes still on the side of the wing. Have also looked in detail at Buicks and JVP may well be right with his suggestion of Buick. Has much in common with the 1919 H45. Many thanks and Regards Vintman (UK)
  3. Hi Folks, We have had another enquiry for identification we are having problems with. Origin is UK but no history as to origin of the photo. Military driver and military personnel. Obviously some sort of parade with newsreel filming the event. No visible numberplate so no help in identifying country. However seems to have a British policeman on the right and car is RHD. Most peculiar type of headlamps are mounted on the wings, not a normal UK pattern, and there seem to be no separate sidelights, normally required by law in UK. However the car does not look British and wheels seem American. The hat of front passenger seems a Homberg ‘godfather’ hat, more usually associated with US. Would much appreciate thoughts as to what it may be? Regards Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org
  4. Hi Folks, Some fabulous information coming out on this one. Lovely to have the Harroun logo. Had copy of a damaged one which I photo repaired so pleased I got it right. Could not help noticing that Todd’s name is Haroun; so presumably from the family? So I guess the family do not have any photos of the 2AA. Regards Vintman (UK)
  5. Hi Leif, Bit of a difficult one. The only photo I have that has a similar conical front to the radiator is the Hermes. They seem to have a complicated history but I don’t think this is one of the Belgian-Italian Hermes cars as these apparently had a Renault type bonnet, and they closed in 1909. It could be from the early Mathis history when Émile Mathis asked Ettore Bugatti to design a couple of types of cars for him. Emile was at the time mainly a dealer. Hermes Simplex ended 1906. However theres seems to be a photo on the Internet that is labelled as Hermes 1912 type 00U0 12 Hp. Lots of pictures of the same car which has metal spoked wheels. Seems to have been manufactured by Appareils Mechaniques et Enrenages in Bressoux under licence from Mathis. Company lasted from 1912-14, which would fit style of your car. They made 8’10, 12 and 16|HP Mathis-Hermes cars. Regards Vintman (UK)
  6. Hi, Does look early British pattern which would have been black background and alluminum numbers. Slightly confused by traces of black paint on the numbers; oxidation?? If it is British, it would be Surrey County Council registration of cca mid/late 1925. The county of Surrey is on the sout western periphery of London.. My only concern is that early British pattern plates were used throughout the "Empire".. ill ask NZcarnerd to advise if New Zealand? Regards Vintman PS This would normally be a rear numberplate; front one would be all in one line.
  7. Hi Folks, Useful thoughts Dustycrusty. Thanks for your input Leif. Commonwealth was indeed one of them, but the one I was thinking of, and have now found, is the Cole as below. Agree with Keiser, neither match but certainly evident that fashion went in definite phases. We may just have quite a unique photo here! Still digging. Regards Vintman
  8. Thanks Dustycrusty. Further digging revealed photo was taken at "Hough-McRae Motor Company showroom at 3829 South Fox Street in Englewood Arapahoe County Colorado" and confirms the Harroun car connection. However, search on Google streetmaps suggests the address is very much in a resedintial area?? Could anyone please advise which is the car that the radiator is remiscent of ? Thanks Vintman (UK)
  9. Hi, We at the Surrey Vintage Vehicle Society (UK) have an active Help Page on our website (currently http://www.svvs.org/help152.shtml) where the general public can get free assistance with identification of old cars from old photographs. While searching for answers we often come across photographs of interesting vehicles which we put aside for later study/investigation. One such case is a photo, which is attached, showing a car that we have subsequently not been able to identify. The photo is titled “Hough-McRae Motor Co”. The car dealership in the background is for Harroun Cars. Roy Harroun was the first winner of Indianapolis and later went to make his own car. Our suggestion is that he could be the figure on the left. He manufactured about 1,200 cars, called the Harroun A1 or AA1, 1917 – 1921. He then introduced the Model AA2 in 1922 shortly before production stopped.. We have not been able to find a picture of the AA2 and wondered if the car in this photo is one of them? The slight worry is that the radiator and bonnet seen very familiar, being similar to other American cars of the period. The rest of the car does have similarities to the AA1. Does anybody have any ideas or suggestions? Does anybody know of the “Hough-McRae Motor Co” and whether they were agents for any other maker. Regards Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org
  10. Hi, Rover 8 was a British car made in Coventry in a number of variants/model years starting in 1904 which had a single cylinder water cooled engine. The photo shows the newer variation introduced after WW1 in 1919 and built until 1925. These were air cooled twin. These were never fours. The engine was a horizontally opposed twin across the chassis and the bonnet had large air scoops for drawing in cooling air directly onto the cylinders. These scoops cannot be seen on this photo, being hidden by the wing of the car.. The radiator was a dummy! Rover 8s grew in engine size but are very difficult to age precisely as they remained visually very similar throughout their production, +/- de luxe versions and customisation. If photo was taken in UK then the numberplate could perhaps give some dating, if all the letters and numbers are known? Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org
  11. Hi Fleek, Many thanks, seems you have nailed it. Much appreciated! Vintman(UK)
  12. Hi Folks, Looks relatively easy but apparently seems not! Not overwhelmed with identifications, although 55 views. Any thoughts at all that i could pursue?? Any thoughts on the carboard box? Vintman
  13. Fuzzy photo but I think from the pod radiators this is acca 1904 Phoenix QuadCar built in Caledonian Road, King's Cross, London. Regards Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org
  14. Hi Folks, Need your help again please in nailing this smallish car which looks American and was owned by a Danish family possibly coming to the US in 1913. Enquirer is from US and has no idea where car was photographed, or make of car. Suggestion subsequently that it may be an Overland but I cannot match. Clue to country of photo coud be carboad box in foreground with letters EX CX (EX CO??) ; regret means nothing to me . Your help would be much appreciated. Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org
  15. Hi All, Thanks for all your hard work. Would advise that a well-known UK automobile historian and ex-member of the VCC International Dating Committee, Bryan Goodman, had died recently and a Memorial Service was held for him at his local church. This resulted in many well known UK and overseas veteran/vintage car specialist getting together and renewing old acquaintances. For us in the SVVS, of which Bryan was also a Member, it meant that a number of regular SVVS Help Page Experts from a number of countries had an opportunity to meet in person. Ariejan Bos from Holland spent a few days with us and went through some of our existing ‘unidentified’ photos. Although he is mainly an expert on obscure Veteran Cars, he had a look at this photo and we had a pleasant few hours trying to pull it to bits to identify the pointers. A couple of hours later we came to a definite conclusion that this is a ca. 1918 Grant Model G Standard Touring. It ticked ALL the boxes - no doubts!! And it seems to agree happily with all the work you folks had been doing in the meantime. MANY THANKS. Kind regards, Vintman (UK) www.svvs.org