old car fan Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 1922 cleveland that starts and runs great but no power whatsoever.does anyone have any ideas or comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1929Chandler Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Hi Tim, They did not have a lot of power back then . But you might start by checking the exhaust system . Make sure it is not closed off by a bend or somthing inside the system . If plenty of exhaust is comming out the tailpipe check timing next . Good Luck Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 Hello and thanks for the reply.Im sure the exhast is fine and timing is spot on as far as we can tell with the info we have.I do realize they have not much power back then,but we also have a 14 Grant,20 studabaker,that will run off and leave the cleveland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFranklin Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Do a compression check. if good and you can tap the vacuum put a vacuum gauge on it and see what it tells. Please tell us how you are sure the exhaust is fine. Try retarding and advancing the timing and see what happens. Are the brakes free or draging? try a different carb maybe the idle circut is ok but but otherwise not giving enough when running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 Carburetor is the only thing i can think of.I know its getting enough fuel to the carburetor.Does anyone know what would be the correct carb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbking Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Original carburetor information: Cleveland carburetor applications Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFranklin Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Carbking, do you have any good recomendations for replacing the die-cast stromberg on my 1928 Hupmobile 6 cyl? Thank you, J Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbking Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JFranklin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Carbking, do you have any good recomendations for replacing the die-cast stromberg on my 1928 Hupmobile 6 cyl? Thank you, J Franklin </div></div>The Stromberg T-2 may be replaced with a bunch of different carbs, depending on a bunch of different criteria.Give me a call (no obligation), and then if you wish to type up the answer here, you get to do all the typing! Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 Checked the carb today.It has the proper carb.I did try to advance and retard the timing,not muc changes.It doesnt even make a difference when starting.We hardly ever drive this car because of this problem,to nice of a car to sit and look good.Hope we can solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFranklin Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 How about looking for a vacuum leak? that could cause problems. Still would like to know how you determined the exhaust was not the problem. one more thing, you could jack up the back wheels and remove the plugs and use the hand crank to see if there is any drag or binding in the drive train. btw what is the HP of your car? Enclosed is a few shots of my 1922 Nash. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian S Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 How about looking for a vacuum leak? that could cause problems. Still would like to know how you determined the exhaust was not the problem. one more thing, you could jack up the back wheels and remove the plugs and use the hand crank to see if there is any drag or binding in the drive train. btw what is the HP of your car? Enclosed is a few shots of my 1922 Nash. Good luck----------I know this is old...But try replacing points and condenser....Had a car that would just bogg down, no power when it had points/condenser problems.Hmmm, did they resolve this? Always good to hear the final results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PIKESPEAKING Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I KNOW CHANDLERS WERE POSITIVE GROUND. IF CONNECTED BACKWARDS THEY WILL RUN BUT WITH LITTLE POWER. NOT SURE IF CLEVELANDS WERE POSITIVE GROUND OR NOT. GOOD LUCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fossiltin62 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Whether chain or gear, cam timing could be out a tooth or so. Car will then start and run but will be lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLong Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 If the timing is correct, the engine should fight back against the starter if the timing is fully advanced when trying to start the car. An old coil can run fine at low rpm, and not be able to create enough spark to run at higher rpm, it acts almost like a governor, limiting rpm and power. Try another 6v coil to see if there is any difference.GLong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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