Guest Bigboi Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Good morning. I have had this car since last year and would like to learn more about it. I learned it is not worth alot of money. I also learned I cannot find another one to compare it to. I learned it is not a limousine, in spite of the title. Since the Title does not help much, I must ask. Is this car called the D17 Luxury Liner 8 passenger sedan? Why cant I find another one? Even Googling produces nothing on this particular model. The car is securely stored and is in very respectable condition. Any advice is appreciated. I posted images on this board awhile back under the Dodge heading and my handle. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Does it have jump seats in the back? Those old Dodges were very roomy, even the standard sedans. The 8 passenger was a long body like a DeSoto Skyview taxi or Chrysler limousine.I have some experience with a 47 Dodge 8 passenger sedan. It was originally used as an airport limousine.Technically, the limousine has a divider window between front and back seats. The 8 passenger sedan doesn't.I do know that they made an awful lot of those big long bodies in the form of DeSoto and Chrysler limos and 8 pass sedans. The Dodges seem to be rare. I'm not sure but it is possible the Dodge was made for export.Not sure about the 1940 but the postwar versions were made at the rate of 3000 or 4000 per year. That's a lot for a limo type car. They were divided between Dodge, DeSoto, Chrysler and Chrysler Imperial models. The DeSoto was very popular for taxicab use. The Imperial was special order and custom finished by Derham meaning they got a complete repaint and upholstery/interior to the customer's specs. All used the same body shell.49 up models had a special floating rear axle like a 3/4 ton truck. They had a rear track 6" wider than a stock sedan and the rear seat area widened to match. I don't think your 40 is like that but it might be worth checking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I don't know why you can't find another one. How many do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bigboi Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Touche' Rusty. My wife wouldn't let me have another one, even if I found one. The car has the jump seats and the operable footrest bar for the rear seat. It has no divider glass. I have intrinsic interest in finding another. Google, This site, eBay, other classic cars for sale sites....nothing. In any event, this car is in very good condition and shows well. I could drive it across the state with no worries. Did you take a moment to see the images? Thanks for reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I'm surprised you can't find even one. I know there are lots of the postwar models around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bigboi Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I double dare someone to find another one for me to see. If this doesnt work, maybe a reward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Bill-W Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 The long-wheelbase models built before 1949 used the rear quarters of the regular sedan along with the front cowal and clip. The section between the two was where the extra length was added. Front doors usually were taken from the 2-door sedan.In the case of your 1940 Dodge, the body was shared with Plymouth. Nothing on it will swap with the 1941-48 Dodge-DeSoto-Chrysler body as the 1941-48 body was a longer and wider structure than the 1940. The Dodge LWB models were built for sale in North America as well as export. Production of 1940-48 LWB sedans / limous :Plymouth :1940 - 1,179 / 681941 - 1,127 / 24Dodge (Plymouth-based - Canada & export) :1940 - ? / ?1941 - 207 / 3Dodge :1940 - 932 / 791941 - 601 / 501942 - 210 / 91946-48 - 3,698 / 2DeSoto :1940 - 348 / 341941 - 321 / 351942 - 128 / 201946-48 - 3,530 / 120DeSoto Taxi :1940 - 2,3231941 - 2,5021942 - 7561946-48 - 11,600DeSoto Suburban :1940 - 01941 - 01942 - 01946-48 - 7,500chrysler Royal/Windsor :1940 - 439 / 981941 - 413 / 851942 - 108 / 331946-48 - 5,016 / 1,665Chrysler Custom/Crown Imperial :1940 - 639 / 2101941 - 384 / 3161942 - 233 / 2151946-48 - 650 / 750BillVancouver, BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I'd like to see the images but don't see any link in your posts??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bigboi Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Bill, Thank you for the stats. I still cannot find another one anywhere. Rusty, go to the top of this page and click "photo gallery". Then scoll down that page until you see "Dodge" on the left.Click on Dodge then scroll down until you see two images of a black Huge car posted by Bigboi.Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34dodger Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 I beleive your car is called a Luxury Liner Deluxe, Series D14 Long Wheel Base, 7 Passenger. The D17 Special was the lower price Dodge and only came in 119 1/2" wheelbase.... this according to The Dodge Story, and Standard Catalog of American Cars. As Bill-W said previously, only 932 produced. I may have had a glimpse of your car in Gresham last year, by the time I came to check it out you were gone. May be interested if you would like to sell. Bill Sandy, OR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gariepy Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 http://www.classiccarsuppliers.com/vehicle.php?do817040 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinnesotaMopar Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Hey. I don't know if it's the same or not but, I just looked at a 1940 Dodge yesterday to buy and restore. I'm working real hard at persuading my husband to take it on with me to restore it. The big kicker is is that the right rear fender is gone and the left rear is pretty banged-up. Otherwise it is pretty complete where the body is concerned (chrome, bumpers, emblems, etc...) The interior is shot. I know he sees trying to find a fender and then a total restoration that will take years but, I see the end product of a unique, rare car that could be brought back. Yeah, not to stock condition or anything that grand but, drivable and road-worthy.Here was some information that I found that you could look at or into. There was a guy on a website (can't remember right now but, will look it up for ya if you want) ------ ricksprg@yahoo.com and I know that he was looking for parts for 1940 Dodge - his might not be complete but, it might be the same as yours just being restored is all. You never know what info he might have. And a website that I did write down ----- autogallery.org.ru/m/dd1940.htm ----- I know I also found/saw a brochure on ebay for a 1940 Dodge that looked pretty neat.I'll keep looking around on the internet for both you and me.Cara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Bill W thanks for the info. Would like to clear up one point. Were Dodge limousines and 8 passenger cars sold in the US?I have seen one, a 1947 Dodge 8 pass sedan (no divider). It was used here in Port Hope Ontario Canada as a limousine from 1947 to 1957. Then it sat in a dirt floor garage rotting for 30 years. In 1987 I put it back in commission for the owner. It required massive amounts of bodywork including making new floors, rocker panels, even a gas tank. The owner refused to repaint it. Believe it or not I worked on that car for months and when it was all done with the rocker panel chrome on, carpets and seats back in etc. the only repairs that showed on the outside, were 2 patches below the tail lighs and between the fender and trunk lid. Everything else was hidden.The rocker panels were too long to make on the shop brake. I had to go to an old sheet metal shop that had a 12 foot brake to make them in 1 piece.It's the only one I ever saw or heard tell of. It was like a DeSoto or Chrysler but with a Dodge front end and engine. I always assumed it was a model made for export not sold in the US. There were a lot of unique models made by Chrysler Canada for that purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bigboi Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Bill,Thanks for the input. We are neighbors. I can be pinged at emery dot properties at Comcast dot net. Let's talk. Peter,I saw that car and wonder if it is a long one?Cara,Thank you so much for that information. I will follow those sites. Have fun with that car.This car has a couple of small issues. It leaks exhaust at the manifold. Can I find another manifold or can this one be repaired? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Leaks exhaust at the manifold. Most likely can be repaired. You do not state if it is the joint between the block and manifold, or manifold and exhaust pipe.A new gasket will probably fix it. If it is the block joint you might want to take off the intake and exhaust manifold as an assembly and check it for straightness with a steel straight edge. If it is warped a machine shop can true it up.Unless the manifold is real bad you might as well fix it. The average used one you find may not be much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bigboi Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/PortlandRider/Leftfull.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/PortlandRider/40dodge.jpgThank you, Rusty.Here are two more images of the little thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bigboi Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 to the top. Cant find another one, can we? Dang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG57Roadmaster Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Comin' at ya in six parts, from the 1940 Dodge Luxury Liner brochure.The '39's in color, but what the hey!TGAnd I was going to take a nap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG57Roadmaster Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Part Deux.TG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG57Roadmaster Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 And 3.TG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG57Roadmaster Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Numero quatro.TG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG57Roadmaster Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Number 5.TG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG57Roadmaster Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Et finis! It's like carma,<span style="font-weight: bold">*</span> dude, that I can help you in your quest for long-lost "family." TG<span style="font-weight: bold">*</span>A <span style="font-style: italic">baaaad</span> pun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG57Roadmaster Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Okay, just one more, then it's cocktail hour(s).<span style="font-weight: bold">"But Ociffer, I was only doing 14!"</span>TG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bigboi Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 I have that booklet. A 7 passenger sedan, it is. Thanks. I am simply looking for another 7 passenger sedan, that's all. Nice pictures, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG57Roadmaster Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Just thought enquiring minds would like to know. If you've got the brochure, then you already know it's called a Luxury Liner 7-Passenger Sedan. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> I'd never mess with Bigboi's pad, 'cause of the arsenal I expect you keep in your nightstand.TGDon't be dissin' the messenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bigboi Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Thanks. All I have is a BB gun and I would have to ask the burglar to wait awhile util I found it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG57Roadmaster Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Just post this as "yard art," and the problem's solved!TG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bigboi Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 "When I nod my head, you hit it with the shovel, real hard." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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