Packard8 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 A while back someone inquired about a V8 marine conversion. I took some shots of the one I have. The casting date on the back of the block is 3-17-55 and what I think is a part number of 446527. I?m guessing it is either a 320 or 352. ?Andres Marine Stockton? is stamped on the stainless exhaust manifolds. Also features an oil cooler in the pan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Randy Berger Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 John, did you remove the rocker shafts so that all the valves stay closed? No oil filter? What kind of boat was this in? Great item and thanks for the pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packard8 Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">John, did you remove the rocker shafts so that all the valves stay closed? No oil filter? What kind of boat was this in? Great item and thankls for the pictures. </div></div>Hi Randy,Good idea about the rocker shafts, thanx. It may have had a remote oil filter in the line running to the oil cooler?not sure as the hoses were cut. The guy I got it from said it came from an ?old cruiser??.that?s all the info I have.Have a good holiday!John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Some Plumber had fun connection up all those copper water pipes. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Are those thermostats on front of heads where water lines go in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packard8 Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 Hi Rick,Yes, each head has its own thermostat in what looks to be a custom machined stainless steel housing. Pretty elaborate setup for the time.best,John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Morbius Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Must have been pretty fast with Packard Power ! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> .............Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55PackardGuy Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 I hope that engine makes it back into a vintage boat. These marine conversions often have many specialty internal modifications, including special cams and even reverse rotation! This looks like it was a custom one-off conversion of an automotive engine by someone who knew what they were doing. Many of the vintage conversions look more standardized, with lots of cast pieces for the water cooled manifolds and other special water routing and accessories. It does seem to have a low-profile carb setup which is common to give more clearance in tight quarters. My 1961 Ford 292 marine conversion has a much more mass-produced look, but then it's not a Packard!It's especially nice to see a late model Packard marine engine because of the proud heritage of the V12 marine engine in both naval applications and of course racing boats--with many speed records. I wonder how many Packard V8s ever made it into the water? (I mean, in a boat, of course!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chriscraft Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 I noticed you were in Northern Cal; check with the guys at Sierra Boat Co (north Tahoe). They're likely to be helpful. Sierraboat.comI agree with Guy - in my twelve years of antique boating, I've never seen that much copper tubing.Also, Jim Staib at finewoodboats.com is a wealth of info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packard8 Posted December 24, 2005 Author Share Posted December 24, 2005 Thanks for the info & links guys. I?d like to find a good home (boat) for it. No way of knowing how many were made, but the serial number is SP 087. Neat conversation piece, but a bit too big for my coffee table!!! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55PackardGuy Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 Maybe chriscraft or someone here has heard of Andres Marine. I would bet that Stockton refers to the location--possibly Stockton CA. That could lead you to some interesting info and maybe someone who is just crying for that engine. There's also the Antique & Classic Boat Society:http://www.acbs.orgIf you want to find it a good home you might try "For Sale" forums on this or other boat sites. There's a lot of 'em. Just google Antique Boats.OR you could get yourself a boat to put under it. Old boats are <span style="font-style: italic">fun</span>! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packard8 Posted December 24, 2005 Author Share Posted December 24, 2005 Hi Guy,Yes, I?m sure that ?Stockton? refers to Stockton, CA. I found the engine at Ladd?s Boatyard in Stockton and swapped him for a Wisconsin V4 that was the same model as used on their boat Travel-Lift.I suspect that Andres Marine went away a long time ago, but it would be interesting to know the history and how many they made. I?ll check out the old boat sites, thanks.John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55PackardGuy Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 Hey Packard8, if you still have that Stockton Marine Packard V8 conversion...While doing some web searches on Packard marine engines, I looked for listings of Packard V8 marine engines, and there seemed to have been a few mainstream conversions done in the '50s.This Antique and Classic Boat Society inquiry mentions Stokes Packard Marine V8 engines used in Chris Craft utilities:http://acbs.org/discuss/viewtopic.php?p=16&sid=265ad51143f9bd75da7b686bfabd0a05The following site mentions a Packard V8 with 2 four barrels and Stokes Marine exhaust. Unfortunately, although it has a clickable link for a photo, nothing shows up, at least for me. The host must not be available:http://www.classic-boats.net/engines/index.htmThey say they're looking for marine engines for sale--might be a shot for you if you haven't found a suitable boat to wrap around 'er yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Vines Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 FWIW, that Classic Boat ad for the Packard Marine V8 is many years old. If memory serves, they sold it long ago and haven't changed the web site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55PackardGuy Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 I suggesting it as a possible place for Packard8 to sell his if he wants to. They still appear to be actively seeking engines, but I didn't try the link. Too bad they didn't leave the pic of the Packard V8 on there--that would have been fun to get a look at, dual quads and all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55PackardGuy Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 That's pretty interesting! Brand new Packard "Sky Power" V8? That looks like what it says. Never heard the term before--did Packard use it in '56? The marine conversion looks very clean. It would be nice if details were clearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55PackardGuy Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Thanks, Brian, for supplying yet another fascinating Packard V8 fact. The Stokes marine people also make a big deal out of pointing out that it's a "Clipper" engine--much more nautical sounding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest classicmotoryacht Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I found this old post and wondered if you still might have this old Packard V-8 Marine engine still around, if so, are you interested in selling it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Legend has it that Studebaker Packard had hundreds of engines in the warehouse when they quit using them at the end of the 56 model year.Many were sold off cheap and used for marine engine conversions. This may account for some of the unusual features of the conversions. They were done by marine engine manufacturers but they knew they were only going to do a few hundred of them and no more were available so they did not spend a lot of money on tooling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen_Dyneto Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) Quite a few of the marinized V8s were done by Stokes Marine. The one pictured here is on display at either the National Packard Museum in Warren OH or the Proving Grounds; I forget which but both have several Packard marine engines of various types of display. The restored engines were donated by Mr. Ole Book. Edited June 23, 2011 by Owen_Dyneto (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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