Blake Starkenburg Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 On a recent search, we found the shell to this un-identified car. Can anyone help indentify the make and year?? I included on picture on this thread but have others on my site in case you need to see different angles of it!Thanks All Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_klb Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Hey Blake!Welcome to the AACA forums! This is a great place to get this kind of help. I haven't got a clue about the car, but hopefully one of the very knowledgeable folks will be able to help.I just wanted to welcome you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Welcome to the Forum. If you can adjust the light on the photos we may have a better chance of finding out what this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Starkenburg Posted October 24, 2004 Author Share Posted October 24, 2004 I will try to adjust the clarity or take some new pictures tommorrow. Unfortunately I am 300 miles from my office computer this weekend and the pictures were taken at sunset.I will also post some hi-res photos on my site for detailed clarity when I get home.I have uploaded some higher res photos at this url. They are each between 200 and 400kb so give the picture some time to load.http://www.oldride.com/unknown/highres/index.htmlThis car is very interesting. All the seams were at one point leaded. The shell is sitting amongst a 1/2 acre of parts, pieces and various other shells. We spent the evening scouring through mounds of metal to try and match up pieces and components. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Starkenburg Posted October 24, 2004 Author Share Posted October 24, 2004 I should also note the special passenger side access door. At one point the car had a small door just behind the passenger door in the rear quarter. This obviously to allow access into the large trunk area. Crazy thing is just as it was getting dark, we found the actual door about 100 foot away!!! The door opening is probably a foot and a half wide by the same high with an angle at the bottom left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29 Chandler Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 In the mid 20's Chandler had a little acess door like that. It was to hold your golf club bag. But from the looks of this body I do not believe it is a Chandler. Mid 20's though would be my guess for the vintage though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Golf club doors were to be found on a number of makes.. I don't know if they were used before the '20s, but the one thing makes me think this car is earlier than the mid '20s is the construction of the front fender. That lip design along the edge is rather typical of teens construction. The combination of that fender construction and the rounded contour of the body suggests it could be mid to late teens. Just a guess of course.hvs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Starkenburg Posted October 24, 2004 Author Share Posted October 24, 2004 I am heading back out to the pile later this morning for some more pictures of this unique individual. Is their some certain specific photos that I should take to better help in identifying the car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brockway Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 I think it's from late teens or early twenties judging by the body style. Just my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika Jaakkola Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Is the home-made possibility closed out? Could it be somekind of race car? ? Body seems to be so low..?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_klb Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 I lighten a couple of the photos, maybe that will help.see attachment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_klb Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 photo #2see attachment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brockway Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 I just browsed my car books and couldn't find anything exactly similar looking. This is some sort of speedster body style. The rear-part of the car should be recoknizable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika Jaakkola Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Well, I did the same.. I guess only thing what you can use is the hood, 9 louvres and front fenders-- round at the front end and check the side of the fender. It's not straight or round.. ah.. how do you say that well, check the pics.Closest I could get that matched somehow to Hudson front fenders 15-25 ...?But not the hood holes.But check the pics from the rear. Behind drivers back, It looks like someone has welded some panel there and there's also weldings in the rear . . I would bet that the body is home made..!! I could weld better than the guy who's welded this one (I have tried once! ) Wasn't there any body numbers? tags anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika Jaakkola Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Just to clear things more-- Atleast some of it MUST be home made. The rear of the body I guess?Is there any engines/more parts neaerby to help identifying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Mika ~ Those rotating pictures next to your post are interesting, but very distracting. They keep catching the left eye when reading your posts. Is it just me or does anyone else have that problem. Not trying by start anything but this has caused me to skip past your posts on occasion.hvs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_klb Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Howard; I don't see those images. So I checked my preferences. Apparently I turned off the avatars in my preferences. No idea when I did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Starkenburg Posted October 25, 2004 Author Share Posted October 25, 2004 Updates:1.) Careful inspection of the hood would indicate that it may not be the original??2.) Inspection of the rear appears to be factory. Allthough the welds are aweful, the metal cuts and rounding is too nice. The pieces of the rear match to nicely, again allthough the welds are bad I am wondering if perhaps the seams were leaded.3.) Car went through a fire. Inspection of lead beads near the top of the cowl dripped down onto the passenger door. The beads are what helped in matching the original doors.4.) Cannot find the firewall! The cowl you see in the pics is just the steel minus firewall and dash.5.) Windshield was a split or two piece jusdging from the windshield cast bracket still on the passenger side.6.) Canvas snaps found on body. Doors, and read quarters.7.) Hunt for radiator cowl is not going well!!!8.) I am not ruling out a homemade car??9.) Bear with me their is a 1/2 acre of strewn parts, cans and metal. It is quite fun though!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29 Chandler Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Sounds like a lot of fun. Hope we come up with a make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Blake, This is a lot of fun, trying to identify old cars. From what I've seen so far I'm going to make an educated guess based on the odd oversized for the era trunk area, Buick from around 1920. Is there a chassis there or just body parts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Starkenburg Posted October 25, 2004 Author Share Posted October 25, 2004 All we can come up with so far is body parts. Their are some chassis scattered throughout the pile but I do not think any of these are for the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Starkenburg Posted October 25, 2004 Author Share Posted October 25, 2004 Just to give some of you the idea of the pile we are dealing with: The picture does not give enough justice to the amount of cans, fenders, hoods and cowls as the sheet metal is all over the ground and extends into the hillside and over the other side of the visible hill.I did manage to get some good shots of more complete shells which I will be posting in my Rusty Rides section of OldRide.com when I compress them tommorrow. Will let you all know when they are up. Thanks everyone for helping in the identification!! By the way the shell in the front of the picture is a four door sedan, front and rear suicides!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika Jaakkola Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 I'll try to change it when when I have enough extra time to do that ..grr...that was my masterpiece.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Sounds like this was an old WWII scrap drive yard. They took the heavy iron and left the tin. The four door sedan may be a Plymouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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