Exhaust ???'s

[55PACKARD]

I was wondering who here has dual exhaust setup's on there cars? And what size exhaust are you guys running? Also what mufflers do you use..I'm having dual exhaust put on this weekend i wanted to know what size to use and what they sound like with dual's i have single right now..Thanks <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

[WCraigH]

My 55 Pat has the stock dual exhaust with twin mufflers and twin resonators. I believe that:

Kepich Exhaust

17370 Alico Center Road

Ft Myers, FL 33912

(800) 365-5764

Sells a duplicate in both mild and stainless steel, but I've never bought anything from them.

[Guest Randy Berger]

Good friend in NJ had one of his friends screwed over by Kepich - this is just word-of-mouth and the advice is worth what you paid for it.

There is another outfit down south advertising in Hemmings both SS and aluminized systems with or without resonators.

YFAM, Randy Berger

[Guest]

I bought the regular steel system from Kanter - Over priced and they sent me the size for a Pat, not the Exec I have. My mechanic didn't discover this until he had started the installation, but the pipes were"five" inches too long to fit my car, so he had to do a lot of rebending. I would suggest that if you have a reliable muffler guy in your area, just have him put on regular mufflers and resonators and do all the bending himself. Won't be any more expensive, and probably a lot cheaper.

[55PACKARD]

Thanks Guy's I am having a shop do all he work, I am putting dual's on i just want to know what size to do..Also i am putting on the steel packed cherry bombs on to give it the real 50's hotrod sound..do you think it will sound good and how loud do you rhink it will be..... <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

[Guest imported_1965V12P]

WHAT WILL THE CAR SOUND LIKE? It will sound most likely like a car that needs a new exhaust system. Which will be a pain in the butt to everyones ears. Thats just about as bad as the fellows whom equip cars with the flame thrower exhausts.

[52deluxe]

hehe i just run straight pipes, its still fairly quiet and its got a nice rumble to it.

just a thought

tom

[WCraigH]

"Cherry bombs" or any straight glasspack-type muffler are a waste of time & money, IMO.

A while back, I had the single exhaust on my 1972 Cadillac Eldo to duals by a local muffler shop. Initially, I only used mufflers without resonators. Big mistake, as it was too loud and droning to drive comfortably for any distance. Later, I had them add resonators which was MUCH better.

I suspect that you'll have the glasspacks replaced with mufflers and then add resonators. The Packard factory knew what they were doing.

[Jack Harlin]

CRAIG

You are right, on doing it the correct way it was designed. When I bought the Clipper HT new exhaust system had been installed with out resonators. It sounds good at idle, but from 40 MPH & up the drone is anoying & gets tiresome after awhile. Using other type mufflers would be worse yet. Jack

[Guest]

'55 pack,

I had glass packs on and replaced them with regular duals with resonators. The glass packs sounded great idling, but at highway speeds they were a real distraction. You get the same powerful sound with the regular duals w/out the high speed irritation. I'd recommend plain mufflers.

[55PACKARD]

So you guys think glass packs will be loud??? I just wanted it to have that real 50's sound to it right now i have single exhaust with just a muffler it sounds good but im into LOUD anoying exhaust.I just had a 97 T/A with a supercharger,headers,no cat's, 3 inch custom exhaust and that was quiet to me everyone that heard it thought it was loud, i thought it was pretty mild...I'm not worried about loud im worried it will sound like a motor boat that i dont want.... <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

[RO]

I use steel round straight flow-thrus installed by a local one-man shop. They are just right, a deep rumble but not too loud at all.

[Guest imported_PackardV8]

56 Executive. I'm running 2 inch pipe from manifolds to muffler. 1-3/4 from muffers to the rear. For mufflers: an 88 Ford Ranger (4cyl 2.0) muffler on the left side and a 'Turbo' muffler on the rite side from AZO. The Turbo is a bit more open than the Ranger muffler so i get some heat thru the intake manifold all of the time. (no heat riser). Running 15-16 mpg probably due to the extra heat thru the intake. Both mufflers give very mellow tone like a Corvette.

[34chuck]

Here I go again responding to three year old threads. I have purchased two Kepich dual exhaust systems for senior 56s, one in mild steel and one in stainless. Both fit very well and were a relatively easy installation. The Kepich dual sets come without the resonator, unless you order them at extra cost. Both cars sounded good, I did not want the extra quieting of the resonators.

[Guest imported_48DLX]

I bought an exhaust for a Hudson I have from Kepich, didn't fit well, I had to do a lot of adjustments. I would stay away from them.

[Guest Randy Berger]

Who would you recommend? Is there another manufacturer of exhaust for the V8 Packards??

[Guest imported_Speedster]

I got my '56 dual-exhaust with resonators from the people that sell them on eBay, but I had the same problem, they were made wrong in several places (lenghth of pipes and angle of bends a little off), but I was expecting that since it's such a complicated system, with many parts and bends. Luckily I have a welder to correct the problems and they Did cost less than anywhere else, at the time.

I did call them and explained the problems in detail, and they said they would do corrections, but I don't know if they did?

[Guest imported_Packards1]

If you want that real 50s sound then use exactly what Packard put on their cars in the 50s.

[Guest imported_Speedster]

Joel, will you Please Loan us your Time-Machine, so we can go Back and 'Get the Real Deal', from a Packard Dealer ? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I know you must have one hid somewhere, since you keep coming up with all the great parts for sale. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

[Guest imported_PackardV8]

so far noone has mentioned cut-outs. Good quite mufflers with cutouts is the best way to go. I'd like to have a pair of cut outs.

AS for resonators, the only difference i can determine is when the the car is decelerating. With resonators, there is no pumping sound at the exhaust during deceleration. Otherwise i've never been able to determine any difference between resonator or no resonator. I belive it is the deceleration issue that the resonantors were designed and installed for anyway.

[Guest Randy Berger]

Joel, and where/what vendor do you go to?

[Guest imported_Packards1]

What I am saying is that the real 50s sound made by the cars of any manufacturer is what was delivered when a car was new. Put on the same spec mufflers, pipes and resonators as they were delivered by the factory. It is not rocket science to locate them.

[34chuck]

As I said earlier, Kepich will sell you a dual exhaust system for the 55 or 56 seniors with resonators. I did not want them as I like a little V8 rumble. I repeat, both systems I bought from Kepich fit perfectly, no bending required. One was stainless and the other mild steel. I will soon buy a third set for my 55 Pat.

[Guest Randy Berger]

Your experience is unique as no one else has had that kind of luck. I personally know of several Kepich exhaust systems installed and all had to be modified in some way. I will not count my own as I bought it from Kepich when he was still up in Ohio and those early efforts cannot be counted against him. When did you purchase these exhausts and how many have you installed?

[Guest imported_PackardV8]

I bought 56 Jr. over the axle and tail pipes, both rite and left from Kepich about 6 years ago. The Left side was real close but the right side tail pipe was NOWHERE near correct. Upon complaint, he sent me another right side but it was 2 inch diameter pipe instead of 1.75 diamneter and still the incorrect wrong bends.

Are there any 55 or 56 RITE tail pipes that have a rite angle bend????? That's what i received both times.

[34chuck]

I installed a Kepich mild steel system in 1994 on my 56 Caribbean hardtop. I installed it myself with no serious problems. The stainless steel Kepick system I installed last year on my 56 Pat. A friend helped me, but it fit fine. I now also have a 55 Pat, and I will buy another Kepick mild steel system for it.

Chuck Neuhaus, South Carolina

[Guest Randy Berger]

Thanks for posting your experience. Every bit of info helps.