Newbie's

[Guest]

Hi guys and Gurls We're new to the group and have paid the membership fee's We have a 1927 dodge 4-door that we're making a streetrod out of for the wife. We just got a 1953 desoto with a 276 hemi. WE know there ain't alot of parts for this motor but we only paid $300 for it and when we got it home it started right up. We would like to know where we could get a top for this car. we also would like to know where's a good place for other body parts. the car has very little rust. we also would like to know what rearend fits under it? We would like and and all info we could get on this car. How would we find out what model this car is also. there are no data plates.

[nearchoclatetown]

Hey newbie, I'll break the ice and say welcome, sounds like you've been over on J Journal with the intro. You might want to watch the SR and HR words around here, you'll get blown up. I think the '27 would have a vinyl roof material over wood frame. My dad had a '55 Dodge PU with the OHV version of the 276. Do the 331 parts interchange?

[Guest imported_DodgerDave]

[color:"red"] NOT LIKING THE IDEA OF STREET RODDING YOUR NEW FIND!!!

[Guest]

If all that goes on in here is cars that are in the original form. then this is not for us. We will ask for our membership due's back and we'll drop out of here. Thought this would be a good group to learn moew about the car. But if all is mad at us making our cat into a SR then we'll get outta here

[JB-ed]

why dont you put the 53 DeSoto top on it?

Have you looked at the resale prices of street rods lately? You're trashing a piece of American history and it will wind up in a crusher when you are done.

[Old Crabby]

That's a steel bodied sedan,no wood except for the top. A very easy car to restore,parts are cheap and plentiful.Looks to be in good shape as well.

Anyone who rods that sweet old car ought to have their knuckles rubbed in manure!!!

[dbbob]

Nice Dodge Brothers vehicle! A street rod? DON'T DO IT! Consider what this car is: A piece of American cultural and industrial history. It's not just another among millions of Chrysler products. It's an original Dodge Brothers, manufactured before Walter P. Chrysler bought out the Dodge Brothers, and you are lucky to have it. Where will your street rod be when it is 77 years old, like this old sedan? I'm not mad, just disappointed. Think about it, before putting this nice old car under the torch!

[Guest]

Thats ok guys you can have all this and I'll take my car to another web site and get parts. This is the only forum we have been on that people are very rude.

To bad this is a dodge. The other forum I'm member of is for all chevy's and they are nothing like this. They don't care what ya do with the car as long as you build it and not let it rust away. So just to let you know THIS CAR IS GONNA BECOME A STREET-ROD. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

[grandpadodge]

GO....GIT...BE GONE !!!! Drop a Chivy 350 in it and weld on a Vega front end and get one of those chrome plated bare footprint gas pedals !!!!

Man.....I hope ya never inherit Abe Lincoln's cabin or Betsie Ross's flag. Talk about RUDE......I can see it now...pink stucco covered logs and vinyl stars and stripes.

[Guest imported_DodgerDave]

well there goes another peice of history.

the point is that this car are few and to

sr or hr it will not preserve the integrity of what

that veh stands for, so as you frolic with your

"bow-tie" buddies remember heritage give pride,

hr and sr ing are fads that get tired quick and

you'll be looking for your next car to ruin

it's just not right. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

good bye.

[Old Crabby]

Well, children will play,reminds me of this kid who lived around the block from me,used to take a hacksaw to his Tonka Toys and bolt the front of a road grader onto the back of a cement mixer,well....you get the idea,same motivation here it seems. You guys are dead on about streetrods, just look at some that were aborted{dare I say made?} 10-15 years ago,nobody wants them,they sell for peanuts and they look awfully dated.

[nearchoclatetown]

I just reread Newbie's OG post, he didn't ask for anyone's opinion of whether he should streetrod this car. I also just looked at the newest Hemmings. Of 3 full pages of streetrods the prices are all between $15,000 and $195,000 for something you can drive. In the Dodge Bros. section the most expensive car is $19,500. Most are less then $10,000. This myth about streetrod prices falling has got to stop.No matter how many times you repeat it, it's not true. This guy came onto this forum for a few answers. What he got was embarrasing. If you don't agree with what someone wants to do with their car, ignore the post, you don't have to make an idiot out of yourself. Look at the DB website, hardly any of these cars are painted correctly but no one degrades the owners for it. Everyone builds their car the way they want, so leave them alone.

[Old Crabby]

That's certainly ONE way to rationalize the destruction of an admittedly minor piece of automotive history,YES dodges are cheap,slow and boring....I love them for this reason.

Would the autopaths stand idly by and come to the defense of those who would rod out a Packard,Marmon or something less pedestrian????

Who cares about the "slo 4" Dodges, '32 Fords are already beyond the reach of such impecunious vandals.

And regarding the advertised "prices" of streetrods,remember,that is what they are asking for the fruit of their labors, not necessarily getting................. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

[nearchoclatetown]

Not trying to rationalize anything, I'm not even agreeing with cutting up a car to hotrod it. This guy paid for the car, it's his to do what he wants, he doesn't need to be ridiculed. If he enjoys the car in whatever form he chooses, good for him. This isn't the first time someone has gotten this treatment from the DB club. I think it's a poor representation of the club. My response isn't aimed at any one person I just don't agree with this mindset. Letting a DB set out in a field and rust isn't preserving history either. At least if it's driven it will be enjoyed.

[Guest imported_DodgerDave]

HR or SR ing is a lot easier for those who want to do it

the fact is parts are easier to get for HR's because they are

custom to a system more readly availible. The price they ask

for definately does not represent the price someone else will

pay. There seems to be two calsification those who prefer the

labor intensive restoration of an antique ie: US

and those who prefer to be inventive with there skills

either way the car will be put back on the street as long

as he actualy finishes it. HR to these cars in my thoughts

are a cop out. That's why the atitude in this club is strong

against it. Granted he should have not been ridiculed for it but

rather diplomatically pushed in our direction.

to this I say OH WELL and BOO HOO!!! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

[Guest]

I have got to say I agree with you - its the guys to do what he wants with and it is unfortunate but at least he's doing something with it. It does seem very petty and childish to be arguing amongst each other about this. The guy joined the club to talk about his car and some people have been extremely rude I feel. From the outset why not just explain to the guy that the club does not cater for Rods. I have many friends who have Rods and 'Original' classic cars and many with both - they just love cars - period. Many of the restored so called original cars have been totally over restored and would never have looked like some people choose to restore them. My point is really life is a little too short for all this one upmanship stuff - lets just enjoy our hobby - Cars!!

[JB-ed]

Fact is, Mr Rodder is telling us the car is not worth spending the money to restore, which flies in the face of anyone who as just spend a kabillion dollars restoring one. It's easy to get angry and rude in this situation., I congratulate those on this site who will not sit by and watch another piece of history get trashed without at least offering their opinion. Regarding prices of hot rods, do a little search of ebay to see what they are actually selling for. Several 28-29 DB coupe rods right now are failing to sell for the equivalent restored to stock. The next generation is, in vast majority, disinterested in these rods and there will be no market shortly, as the last of the baby boomers finally get over the hill.

[Guest imported_DodgerDave]

OK one last note about this subject.

If one goes to the home page and

clicks on FAQ he/she will find the

Dodge Brothers policy on street rodding

or hot rodding. With that said the orig.

post from the nebie was (in a sense) in

violation of that policy. They did not intend to

preserve the car to the DB policy. I think it

is important to stick to such poilcies as they

gave a standard as to what is acceptible.

Ok, I'm done beating this dead horse. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

[nearchoclatetown]

And Dave, I'll beat that horse one more time. I agree with the DB club policy, my car will be kept as original as I can afford. But the man paid for the car, it's his to do what he wants. He doesn't need the treatment he received. Perhaps he doesn't belong on this forum,in the DB club, or the AACA. He didn't ask to be ridiculed, he simply had some questions about the car. I'm sure if he changes his mind about hotrodding the car and decides to build it original he will never join the DB club. Someone owning and enjoying their car in their own way is what should be important. Letting a bunch of cars sit behind the barn and rust into eternity is not preserving history.

[Guest]

Hey have read this tread and I must say this.If one wants a SR or a HR

There is a manufacture in Brokville Ohio that Manufacture STELL Bodys,frames,

engine,supports and more for this perpose.Why shop up and orginal car?All one needs is a doner car and Brookville Manuacture catalog and have a HR/Sr in no time.

vern From Romar.

[Guest]

being a newbie myself i can see the allure of both side of this argument, it's very hard to find original parts, and if you do the price is astronomical,(price for detroit lubr. carb float was quoted as $500.00,i don't think so dist cap $75.00 noway ) in some ways in cheaper to go with the electronic ignition,and aftermarket parts,or scrounge tractor parts that interchange,since i have alot of spare time i spend it walking salvage yards looking for parts,some folks don't have the time or the money, some look at it as crarting something totally unique,a work of their own design,a for of art if you will. nuff said outta here, mine stays as original as possible though.

[blainepearson]

Do as you wish. Put the stock parts up for sale this will help fund your project.Good luck Its great to be an AMERICAN!!!!

[Guest]

Well hopefully you are still here reading your responses. I may be able to help you figure out the model #. The serial number should be located on the left front door hinge pillar post, the letters shown in midsection of lines (before the serial numbers) identify what plant, ex. D=Detroit, Mich,, LA=Los Angeles, CA, W=Windsor, Ontario, Canada. The serial numbers are what tells you the model, sooooo, Powermasters built in Detriot had #'s 50266001-50304981, Powermasters built in LA had #'s 6209001-62042345. Taxis were numbered 5124001-5125701. Firedome models in Detroit # 55050001-55127622, Firedomes in LA # 64008001-64015691. I hope this helps some, happy building!

[dbbob]

Devona,

I don't understand this message. Is this a Dodge Brothers post? What am I missing here?

[Guest imported_DodgerDave]

Have to agree with with db-bob what are you talking

about. (powermasters???????????????)

[dbbob]

Whatever one's motives for creating a street rod from an old car, the project radically changes the identity and original purpose of the vehicle. A 1927 Dodge Brothers, once "converted" into a street rod, is no longer a 1927 Dodge Brothers, no matter what you call it. If you build a street rod with fine workmanship, modern features, and good market value, you are not saving an historical vehicle and "putting it back on the road." What you are putting on the road is a personally-designed new creation. The 1927 Dodge Brothers has ceased to exist, and it is disingenuous to call the new creation a '27 DB.

In my opinion, street rodders who come to this Forum for help with their projects shouldn't be surprised at the naturally strong reaction of Club members who see the very basis of their hobby (a limited supply of ancient vehicles) threatened. We support preservation and restoration because we value these cars for what they are and were, not for what we can make them into. An original vehicle, restored or not, is a genuine historical object that speaks to us directly from the past. If it is preserved rather than rodded, it will continue to speak accurately to future generations about a world long gone. Hot rods tell a story, too, but their story is more about today's rodders than about the cars of yesteryear.

[Matt Harper]

;;GO....GIT...BE GONE !!!!

That is the response of a little boy with no manners! WOW! I am a newbie here as well. I just aquired a 1927 or 1928 Dodge 4-door sedan. I'm ready to leave and visit a Club site that show respect and maturity for ALL viewers. I'm not saying this for all people as there are a few that have responded with maturity to my previous posts, and these people want to help others LEARN about their car whether they street rod it or restore it. I do both! Where does that put me? I have a 1940 Willys (all orginal steel) that I turned into a 1/4 mile Drag Car. I also have a 1930 Model A 5-window coupe that was restored 25+ years ago. I also aquired a 1948 F2 Pick-up whicj will see a newer Chevy frame and drivetrain. I now have this Dodge which I am undecided which way to go. Being that I have no front-end or drive train (rear axle only), it would only make sense to street rod it and increase the value to that of at least double of a restored car. Or, I could restore it if I find enough parts to do so. I thought this site may be a good source, but obviously, the maturity level of some members is quite low.

It's too bad, this site seems to have potential. Seems as though it is time for a mediator to keep people like "grandpadodge" from 'flapping at the gums'.

a disturbed reader.....Matt

P.S. Feel free to flame me. Please do so via personal email cababilities@hotmail.com. I don't want to use up the bandwidth of this site.

[grandpadodge]

I'm sorry you were offended by my comments Matt. I was offended by Shane's comments about the rudeness of this forums members. I was merely holding the door open that he was already headed for.Peace dodge brother.

Gramps.

[JB-ed]

Nice, Matt. A good offense is the best defense.

[classic bonez]

After reding this post I have wondered how come you all don't tell all others to get out when they talk about turning thier cars into a SR. I have seen another person talk about turning his car into a SR and there was only one person tell him about the price of SR's now. I'm sorry about ow PPl act to others and wish There was a way to solve this.