supercub Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) Im going to look a 16 Maxwell that is a yard runner. It looks to have all running gear and it hasnt been hacked. From shat I can see from the pics it needs the correct fan belt and a radiator cap. Would I be able to find a match with an industrial flat belt? It doesnt have a spare so I would want to obtain one. Would I just need a clincher rim with a preinstalled tire to swap if I got a flat? Anything specific to these cars I should look at? Edited May 23, 2023 by supercub (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Some 1916-17 Maxwell's left the factory with over hardened ring gears and started shedding teeth almost immediately. It took me the contents of 10 differentials to get enough good parts to restore my rear end. The dash panel with cutout and regulator, starter/generator and starter switch are more complicated than most period cars and replacement parts for these are very hard to find. If your car has a Simms magneto look inside the frame rail next to it to see if the intensifying coil is there. I have only ever seen one. If your car is missing the coil I'd reccommend replacing the magneto with the later Atwater-Kent distributorand coil. There is one on eBay right now. Yes the spare is a clincher rim with tire installed. There are some Maxwell's that have an odd complete wheel that is held on with 3 bolts and require a complete wheel and tire combination to be carried. Howard Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share Posted May 20, 2023 Howard Dennis, the seller stated that the car had its magneto removed snd a distributor was put in its place. From the pics I cant tell if the dash controls are present but I fiund some pics of the dash control and coil on an old post. This pic is from the listing but when I see the car I can see whats going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 From your picture I can see the carburetor is not original but they come up on eBay often. Howard Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share Posted May 20, 2023 I will check the rear end as best able, listen for grinding noises. I found this pic of a control panel in an old post. Seems the tires size is the same as a Model T, easy to find, but the clincher rim may be a hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share Posted May 20, 2023 I thought it looked too new, like die cast aluminum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 28 minutes ago, supercub said: I will check the rear end as best able, listen for grinding noises. I found this pic of a control panel in an old post. Seems the tires size is the same as a Model T, easy to find, but the clincher rim may be a hunt. Rims should be Jaxon and turn up occasionally. I have used Model T Ford rims by knocking off the lugs in a bind but they lack the anti-spin indentation. Howard Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share Posted May 20, 2023 I will look for a Jaxon. What woukd be a reasonable cruising speed to expect from these cars, 35 to 40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share Posted May 20, 2023 This is the dash. It looks a little different than the ones Ive seen pics of. The fuel filler has a Y shape and it looks like it doesnt have the ammeter and fuel sight glass on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 31 minutes ago, supercub said: This is the dash. It looks a little different than the ones Ive seen pics of. The fuel filler has a Y shape and it looks like it doesnt have the ammeter and fuel sight glass on the left. I'm not seeing anything?? Howard Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share Posted May 20, 2023 Here it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) Judging by the gas tank filler and windshield mounting post I'd say this is a 1918-19 Maxwell. Check the serial number to find out exact year. Howard Dennis Edited May 20, 2023 by hddennis (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share Posted May 20, 2023 Thanks for the info, I' ll get the VIN. Going tomorrow to see it. The VIN should be on the right rear crossmember. The filler does have a branch that must hold a gauge as the 1918 model describes. I was just planning out storage for it and the extra 5" of wheelbase adds to the challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 I brought the car today. The engine runs good and doesnt smoke. It has a Model A carb in it but the original carb was included. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 The drivers door is included and the top framework as well. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 You’re gonna be busy! Best of luck on your new project. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Great! Glad to see another Maxwell rescued. Get any spare parts with it? Howard Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 No extra parts came with it. Its good to have the original carb though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Supercub, forget about looking for a Jaxon rim. If I'm seeing correctly your carhas the odd wheels held on by 3 bolts. I can't seem to prove or disprove if these are factory mounted. I can't find any literature that mentions them other than aftermarket listing of the period. So they could be factory or dealer or owner installed. yours is about the fourth car I've seen equipped with them. Howard Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 It looks like a banjo fot through this fitting and its missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 Thats interesting thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 A closer shot of a wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 I couldnt find the VIN but when it gets delivered tomorrow I will look more for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 That Rayfield carb is not the original. 1918-19-20 all show a Johnson carb. I'm out of town till next week but know I have some, might make you a package deal to take them all. Howard Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 I also came with maybe the original Atwater Kent coil, and another coil. It has a 12v coil and battery in it jumped just to start it. I coukd use the 12V battery for my boat, looks like a G24. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 Have to be in touch about your carbs. The Rayfield carb is a work of art, I wonder what it went to. The seller had 14 early cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 From what I could find the majority of Rayfields were aftermarket, would depend on what the model is as some were factory mounted on a few cars. That may be an original coil as 1918 was the first fully 12 volt Maxwell's. My late 1917 has 2 6 volt batteries, starts on 12 runs and charges on 6 volt. Howard Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 So if its a 12V system I can use the battery in it. I will test the coil. I think the Rayfield was on the car but the PE put the Model A carb on it to try the car out. It actually ran pretty good with the A carb on it but I didnt drive the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 Check out the break-in routine on the new 1918 Maxwell: Howard Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 22, 2023 Author Share Posted May 22, 2023 Quite the rugged cars! Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 The VIN says its a 1918 acording to the chart. The rims are nonclincher style, basically an assembled rim. I want to find one of these Standard demountable rims for a spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercub Posted May 26, 2023 Author Share Posted May 26, 2023 Looking for 4 hubcaps, radiator cap and a spare wheel that fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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