Buick35 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) If you send markngard a picture and size of the stencil he will custom make them and send you enough.They work well.Office depot said white ink won t work on glass for a rubber stamp,I don't know why. Edited January 11, 2023 by Buick35 Spelling (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootey Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 Markngard will make any number of identical bugs once you give them your artwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
californiamilleghia Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Shootey said: Markngard will make any number of identical bugs once you give them your artwork. Thanks, I contacted him here is the weboage https://www.markngard.com/product/custom-bug-glass-etch-stencils-w-etch-cream/ And anyone that have used them , how clean is the logo , as good as OEM ? OHHHH and how did the OEM glass makers put the "bug " on when they made them ? Thanks again Edited January 12, 2023 by californiamilleghia (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buick35 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 I think they're as clear as oem.I'm not sure how they were made originally.The driver side and front windshield should be installed on the outside of the Windows so they can be read normally from left to right and the passenger side Windows from the inside out.Thats how my other car daily driver is. I think they marked them all the same on the assembly line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif in Calif Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 On 6/10/2022 at 8:31 AM, bryankazmer said: Gary's chemistry is right - glass is etched with hydrofluoric acid. It's much more dangerous than hydrochloric. LOF's trademarks (and Pilkington's Triplex) are now owned by Nippon Sheet Glass. US headquarters is still the LOF site in Northwood (Toledo), OH. They offer aftermarket glass. I don't know how aggressively they defend the trademarks. Former L O F / NSG Employee here. There was a period about 25 years ago where they did make all the glass shops knock this off. I think they were concerned about liability. What if someone "bugged" glass that wasn't safety? Glass fabricators still use the methods described here to bug glass "in the field" on architectural projects where the inspector looked for it and couldn't find it. In my experience the stencil works better than the stamp because it takes a fair amount of the acid to get a good etch and with a stamp it tends to be a big blob. HF is very bad stuff...be careful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif in Calif Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 On 6/10/2022 at 8:31 AM, bryankazmer said: Gary's chemistry is right - glass is etched with hydrofluoric acid. It's much more dangerous than hydrochloric. LOF's trademarks (and Pilkington's Triplex) are now owned by Nippon Sheet Glass. US headquarters is still the LOF site in Northwood (Toledo), OH. They offer aftermarket glass. I don't know how aggressively they defend the trademarks. Former L O F / NSG Employee here. There was a period about 25 years ago where they did make all the glass shops knock this off. I think they were concerned about liability. What if someone "bugged" glass that wasn't safety? Glass fabricators still use the methods described here to bug glass "in the field" on architectural projects where the inspector looked for it and couldn't find it. In my experience the stencil works better than the stamp because it takes a fair amount of the acid to get a good etch and with a stamp it tends to be a big blob. HF is very bad stuff...be careful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif in Calif Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 On 6/10/2022 at 8:31 AM, bryankazmer said: Gary's chemistry is right - glass is etched with hydrofluoric acid. It's much more dangerous than hydrochloric. LOF's trademarks (and Pilkington's Triplex) are now owned by Nippon Sheet Glass. US headquarters is still the LOF site in Northwood (Toledo), OH. They offer aftermarket glass. I don't know how aggressively they defend the trademarks. Former L O F / NSG Employee here. There was a period about 25 years ago where they did make all the glass shops knock this off. I think they were concerned about liability. What if someone "bugged" glass that wasn't safety? Glass fabricators still use the methods described here to bug glass "in the field" on architectural projects where the inspector looked for it and couldn't find it. In my experience the stencil works better than the stamp because it takes a fair amount of the acid to get a good etch and with a stamp it tends to be a big blob. HF is very bad stuff...be careful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif in Calif Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 On 6/10/2022 at 8:31 AM, bryankazmer said: Gary's chemistry is right - glass is etched with hydrofluoric acid. It's much more dangerous than hydrochloric. LOF's trademarks (and Pilkington's Triplex) are now owned by Nippon Sheet Glass. US headquarters is still the LOF site in Northwood (Toledo), OH. They offer aftermarket glass. I don't know how aggressively they defend the trademarks. Former L O F / NSG Employee here. There was a period about 25 years ago where they did make all the glass shops knock this off. I think they were concerned about liability. What if someone "bugged" glass that wasn't safety? Glass fabricators still use the methods described here to bug glass "in the field" on architectural projects where the inspector looked for it and couldn't find it. In my experience the stencil works better than the stamp because it takes a fair amount of the acid to get a good etch and with a stamp it tends to be a big blob. HF is very bad stuff...be careful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
californiamilleghia Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Hi Does anyone have an extra Markngard stencil they can send me ? I asked Markngard for a sample before I place a $200 plus order but for some reason they are ignoring me ! Thanks for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buick35 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) I have some extra ones but they were made for my 35 Buick but I'll send them to you if you want.Greg ,I have some of the etch cream also. Edited January 19, 2023 by Buick35 Add more text (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
californiamilleghia Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Buick35 said: I have some extra ones but they were made for my 35 Buick but I'll send them to you if you want.Greg ,I have some of the etch cream also. Hi , Thanks for the offer , I do not care what they are for , I just want to test a couple before we buy 300 of them , I will send you my mailing address Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buick35 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) On 1/19/2023 at 7:16 PM, californiamilleghia said: Hi , Thanks for the offer , I do not care what they are for , I just want to test a couple before we buy 300 of them , I will send you my mailing address Edited January 21, 2023 by Buick35 Remove (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
californiamilleghia Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) On 1/19/2023 at 6:34 PM, Buick35 said: Hi , Buick35 was nice enough to send me his extra stencils and "acid" , it arrived today , I will try it next week at my friends shop and report. I also talked to a company at the Screen print trade show Sunday that has a mask to use to sandblast a logo in glass, He did a demo and it was very detailed , but a little too deep , That type mask has a outer later that when UV light hits it hardens and the sand bounces off , the area that the UV light was masked is soft and the sand blows it off and then blasts the glass , these stencils are of course one time use....... Edited January 24, 2023 by californiamilleghia (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
californiamilleghia Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 the Etch Cream is 20% Ammonium BiFluoride 80% inert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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