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I have towed all over the USA. Good equipment is cheap. Always go with the best you can afford. If you haul the big iron, you need to go with the best, or your life is in danger, and it's very easy to wreck you car. I have been suffering LOTS of tire failure the last two years. I used engineering and a few bucks to solve the problem. It just arrived yesterday. This rig tows like a dream with the triple wide spread set up. My 2000 F 350 power stroke I bought new has only 80 k on the clock. The trailer is 36 foot V nose. It is BIG! Has an extra foot of height. I wish I bought this 5 years ago!

Your wife called ...

She says you HAVE to sell me your F350 ....

Seriously though - contact me if you ever decide to sell it ...

Jim

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I have towed all over the USA. Good equipment is cheap. Always go with the best you can afford. If you haul the big iron, you need to go with the best, or your life is in danger, and it's very easy to wreck you car. I have been suffering LOTS of tire failure the last two years. I used engineering and a few bucks to solve the problem. It just arrived yesterday. This rig tows like a dream with the triple wide spread set up. My 2000 F 350 power stroke I bought new has only 80 k on the clock. The trailer is 36 foot V nose. It is BIG! Has an extra foot of height. I wish I bought this 5 years ago!

Nice looking trailer, who built it? I'm sure the spread axels with distribute the load across the tires much better. Seems the tires would scrub badly when turning. I couldn't imagine pulling a tag trailer that big. I pull a 36' goose nexk behind a 2008 F450. I had been pulling with a F350 for years, i really like the 450, feels really safe.

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I have towed all over the USA. Good equipment is cheap. Always go with the best you can afford. If you haul the big iron, you need to go with the best, or your life is in danger, and it's very easy to wreck you car. I have been suffering LOTS of tire failure the last two years. I used engineering and a few bucks to solve the problem. It just arrived yesterday. This rig tows like a dream with the triple wide spread set up. My 2000 F 350 power stroke I bought new has only 80 k on the clock. The trailer is 36 foot V nose. It is BIG! Has an extra foot of height. I wish I bought this 5 years ago!

I am assuming you have towed through Maryland before thus are properly commercially licensed the truck properly commercially licensed :)

Nice rig wish I could legally have one in Maryland

Robert

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Yes I drive through maryland , but I do not leave the federal highway system, thus I am exempt from the state rules as long as I do not exit the highway. Read the federal dot rules, thay are clear you do NOT need a dot number, medical card, or cdl, nor commercial plates. You must be legal in your state. The federal law trumps the state regs. That doesn't mean that you won't get a hassle, but I have a copy of the law in the trailer with the registration.

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Yes I drive through maryland , but I do not leave the federal highway system, thus I am exempt from the state rules as long as I do not exit the highway. Read the federal dot rules, thay are clear you do NOT need a dot number, medical card, or cdl, nor commercial plates. You must be legal in your state. The federal law trumps the state regs. That doesn't mean that you won't get a hassle, but I have a copy of the law in the trailer with the registration.

You guys are so knowledgeable. This is great information.

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Could you possibly post the applicable federal regulations or at least a reference to them?

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(a) The rules in subchapter B of this chapter are applicable to all employers, employees, and commercial motor vehicles, which transport property or passengers in interstate commerce.

(B) The rules in part 383, Commercial Driver's License Standards; Requirements and Penalties, are applicable to every person who operates a commercial motor vehicle, as defined in § 383.5 of this subchapter, in interstate or intrastate commerce and to all employers of such persons.

© The rules in part 387, Minimum Levels of Financial Responsibility for Motor Carriers, are applicable to motor carriers as provided in § 387.3 or § 387.27 of this subchapter.

(d) Additional requirements. Nothing in subchapter B of this chapter shall be construed to prohibit an employer from requring and enforcing more stringent requirements relating to safety of operation and employee safety and health.

(e) Knowledge of and compliance with the regulations. (1) Every employer shall be knowledgeable of and comply with all regulations contained in this subchapter which are applicable to that motor carrier's operations.

(2) Every driver and employee shall be instructed regarding, and shall comply with, all applicable regulations contained in this subchapter.

(3) All motor vehicle equipment and accessories required by this subchapter shall be maintained in compliance with all applicable performance and design criteria set forth in this subchapter.

(f) Exceptions. Unless otherwise specifically provided, the rules in this subchapter do not apply to—

(1) All school bus operations as defined in § 390.5, except for the provisions of §§ 391.15(e) and (f), 392.80, and 392.82 of this chapter.

(2) Transportation performed by the Federal government, a State, or any political subdivision of a State, or an agency established under a compact between States that has been approved by the Congress of the United States;

(3) The occasional transportation of personal property by individuals not for compensation nor in the furtherance of a commercial enterprise;

(4) The transportation of human corpses or sick and injured persons;

(5) The operation of fire trucks and rescue vehicles while involved in emergency and related operations;

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390.3.F(3) Clearly states federal exemption for private use. Do NOT state you are going to a car show.....you can win prize money or a trophy. Just state you are on vacation with your car. No problem. This section refers to DOT requirements using the federal highway system. I will post some more info soon. The basic concept is federal DOT rules all apply to interstate commerce. Ed

Edited by edinmass (see edit history)

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[h=3]§ 390.3: General applicability.[/h]<ext-xref refid="74" href="20130823">Link to an amendment published at 78 FR 52652, Aug. 23, 2013.</ext-xref> <ext-xref refid="22" href="20140805">Link to a correction published at 78 FR 63100, Oct. 23, 2013.</ext-xref>

(a) The rules in subchapter B of this chapter are applicable to all employers, employees, and commercial motor vehicles, which transport property or passengers in interstate commerce.

(B) The rules in part 383, Commercial Driver's License Standards; Requirements and Penalties, are applicable to every person who operates a commercial motor vehicle, as defined in § 383.5 of this subchapter, in interstate or intrastate commerce and to all employers of such persons.

Again, here are the general rules to the federal DOT program. If you are in business, or working for a business, or for gain.......you need to meet all the rules and regs. This is why you can drive a Tractor Trailer with air brakes and a gvw of over 26,000 if it is a motor home. Thus length of vehicle, weight of vehicle, style or type of vehicle do not matter to private use, it is interstate commerce that invokes all the DOT rules.

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This means the truck and trailer, as well as any vehicle in the trailer, would need to be registered to a private individual rather than any business entity?

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Yes, and yes. Just ordered my Maine plate for the trailer. Mass cost, 450 per year registration, 900 per year exsize tax, 75 per year inspection. Maine was 220 total for 10 years. That's 1600 per year in this crummy state, or 22 dollars in Maine. I'm getting out of this place........it's just one example on how local government in the northeast is treating the people. Sad commentary on what this wonderful nation has come to. Now........back to cars and trailers!

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Part of my trailer routine is.........put a piece of masking tape on top of the break away battery that says charged day/month, and I keep a trailer inspection sheet in the truck that I use to mark fuel and toll expense, but I also jot down check air pressure in trailer tires, check lights, check brakes. It has helped quite a bit. I leave an air pressure gauge clipped to the board. I think they see an honest attempt to upkeep the rig and they tend to lose interest. I figure in the last 1000,000 miles towing I was stopped 6 times, two for truck and trailer inspection, the others were due to light issues......which now I have indicator lights on the drivers side of the trailer that let me see that stop lights and running lights are on.. Just two small led that can be seen by the drivers mirror. They work great and I hope it will cut down on the pull overs for lighting issues.

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The car in the trailer is not a car it is cargo. They have no right to look, inspect, or inquire what is in the box. The trooper in Vermont was over aggressive and asked to see my registration on the car, when I figured I would be on my way sooner and was going to show him the reg, he saw the high end car and just gave up. He complimented me on my good equipment and sent me on my way. I play them how I feel them. In Conniciut I told him to go pound sand with his attitude. I was on the side of the road for an hour. I just turned on a video and watched it , and his blood started to boil. When he realized I was in no hurry he gave up. I try to be polite and positive, and answer reasonable questions. Another hint.....leave luggage where they can see it, it goes a long way that your on vacation. When the wife is in the car they almost never ask any questions, with three or four guys in the crew cab they play ten thousand questions.

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I'll have to go with '31 caddy's # 9 post !!!!!

So me X2

pyasher, your avatar does not give your location, (as our dear moderator Mr. Earl has recommended) so I can only say, take a trip to Douglas Ga., and within 50 miles of the place, during our trip we toured 8 different trailer manufacturing plants. NOT dealers, but where I could walk down the line and talk to the welders.............

We wound up with a 24' enclosed from Arizing Ind. in Hazelhurst, Ga.

Then I put in the 76" square escape door myself.

My only regret was not going for the extra height and the thicker sheet metal. Should have got the 18ga instead of the 22ga side sheets.

But she tows straight and makes one heck of a garage.

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Mike in colorado

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This is interesting thread and am enjoying it. BUT, I will have to read some more in the Maryland Commercial motor carrier book as well as the federal book both of which I keep in the truck. I also have been stopped many times the last few years and even been "run down" by MSP troopers. In Maryland you cannot be non commercial if your GCVW is over 26,000 pounds. Luckily my aluminum trailer allows me to do that but I have to have a commercial medical card when towing over 10,000 GCVW which all of our rigs are. Maryland is the only state I know of that does their inspection stations by pounds rather than class of vehicle. All vehicles over 10,000 GCVW must stop on the scales including on the interstates. Most of the larger scales on I 95 and I 70 don't have too many chase persons available to run people down. I can say I have been green lighted at all interstate scales in Maryland but rarely green lighted at state highway facilities. Pennsylvania and Illinois appear to be aggressively starting to be like Maryland.

I will check the Federal book that addresses the 26,000 GCVW commercial issue by looking in another section of the Manual.

Oh, on motor homes yes they are exempt in Maryland as well as federal BUT they have an overall length maximum that is less than the Federal in Maryland.

Robert

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I am down here in Charlotte for the AACA meet and got out of Maryland without going by a scale/inspection facility! :)

Robert

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Make sure that you have 8 lug wheels specked. And most trailers have bull wiring. Check the wiring. Seems like weak points for the builders. Also, have them put waterproof lights on the front of the fenders so you can see your trailer at night for maneuvering. Also wireless remote winch.

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40 ft tri-axle trailer. Haul in many western states with no problem. 2007 Dodge Diesel with 6 speed. About 16 MPG.

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