34PackardRoadsta Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Dear Folks,Attached please find a couple of photos of the crankcase oil level indicator from my standard eight. You will notice that someone added a dipstick when the indicator stopped working. I am planning on restoring this bit to original condition. My questions are:1) Does anyone have a photo of what this gauge should look like?2) Has anyone restored one of these indicator faces, and if so what materials did you use?3) I presume there should be gaskets around the indicator. Unfortunately, the last repair was done with a silicone sealant, thus no original-ish gaskets to go by. Thanks tons,Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Tom,I believe I bought the last face from PI last year. However I think they might had got their face from the company below, the mew "puffer and williams"Vivian Lavine. Call her at 574-773-7561.The PI club has all the gaskets and glass for it. When I get a chance I'll send a picture of my oil level gauge.People always mistake my oil level gauge for a gas gauge. I always remark (tougue in cheek) that the next year in 33, Packard started to make cars cheaper and replaced the oil level gauge with a dipstick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34PackardRoadsta Posted June 22, 2008 Author Share Posted June 22, 2008 Ken,Thanks for the info. I hope to not have to replace the indicator face, just make it more readable. But, ultimately, I want it to be functional so if I have to replace it, I will.A picture would be great. I'll send you a thousand words of thanks.Cheers,Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Tom,Looiking at my gauge just now, I remembered that I originally had a face that was the color of your gauge. I was sent a different face by PI. I questioned it, and they said that Packard changed the face color in the middle of the 32 model year. So my oil level face is now black with gold lettering. The original face that I have, the gauge restorer removed the paint, but I remember it being an off white. Unfortunately I do not have a good picture of before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 i think the bronze color is original for '30, i know it was for '29s. not sure about the pointers, one of mine was painted white but the other was bare brass, with no paint, when i got them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34PackardRoadsta Posted June 22, 2008 Author Share Posted June 22, 2008 Ken, thanks for the photos. Rick, thanks for the info on yours gauge. So, maybe it was brass plated, with the raised letters and marks being black?Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 the marks were Not black in '29s, (just raised with No paint on them)both appeared to be original and untouched when i took them apart, but not sure about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Loyens Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Tom, There,s a good picture of a 1930 oil gauge in the Hemmings Classis Car magazine issue #47. I just received it. The item is all about a 740 Packard, great story.My 733 oil ga. is all brass with a black indicater. The one in the magazine is white with a red area in the empty zone.Hope this helpes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34PackardRoadsta Posted June 26, 2008 Author Share Posted June 26, 2008 Ed,I have seen the photo, and it does not look quite right to me. But, it is the best photo of the indicator face that I have seen so far! There is no evidence that the face on my car was ever painted, but the indicator is clearly painted red.Rick,Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 The face on our 1930 is unpainted also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34PackardRoadsta Posted June 26, 2008 Author Share Posted June 26, 2008 West,Is yours brass plated? Also, what color is the indicator?Thanks,Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 If I remember correctly, brass with a black needle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34PackardRoadsta Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 Great. Thanks.Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 very strange that we see such a varity of Pointer color (red, white, black). i think i've seen it dark-red color more than others, but have not got a clue which color or colors are original ??? it could be that they were not all the same color originally or different years used different color paint on pointer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 yes, i went thru pictures i have of '29 and '30 engines and the oil-guage-pointer is Red in all i can see. it appears to be same shade of red that is used in hubcap centers. not saying for sure that is original color for all of them but i think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34PackardRoadsta Posted June 28, 2008 Author Share Posted June 28, 2008 Rick,Thanks tons for the info. In looking more closely at my pointer, it does not appear to have been repainted. Of course, one should be careful about looking at your pointer in public.Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbirdman Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 According to the PI judging book, the pointer is a "natural" color...whatever that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tbirdman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">According to the PI judging book, the pointer is a "natural" color...whatever that means. </div></div>It probably means that they don't know what color it should be, Also. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl B. Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) Another 2 cents worth.. mine is a 32, and I beleive my pointer is red. If I knew which box it was in I'd go look and see for sure, but I have no earthly idea...but red sure sticks in my mind, and I think the face was white, and the empty slot was red..... for what it's worth...B Edited April 1, 2011 by Earl B. (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBaeke Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 I realize this thread is 3 years old, however, I am restoring a race engine from the 1920s, with the inner workings of a crankcase oil level guage still present, but no outside guage itself. Have any of you ever seen these gauges on anything but Packard? Did they make an aftermarket variety? What manufacturers should I be thinking of besides Packard to compare inner workings of to identify the guage manufacturer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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