E & J Brass lamps pre 1908

[John Gelfer]

I own a 1912 Ford Model T roadster that was originally restored in the 1950's. The side lamps are E & J, but they say "Patent Applied For" instead of "Patented Dec 9 1908" like all Model T brass lamps. The front lens is round and beveled, (not square like it should be) with a nice brass flair around it. Are these lamps from an earlier Ford car?

[John Gelfer]

I own a 1912 Ford Model T roadster that was originally restored in the 1950's. The side lamps are E & J, but they say "Patent Applied For" instead of "Patented Dec 9 1908" like all Model T brass lamps. The front lens is round and beveled, (not square like it should be) with a nice brass flair around it. Are these lamps from an earlier Ford car?

[Peter Gariepy]

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Peter

[Peter Gariepy]

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Peter

[Terry Bond]

Your lamps "could" have been for an earlier Ford car. Some of the 1909's used the flair front E&J marked Pat Pend. Most likely though, since your car was an older restoration, they were some lamps that just happened to do the job on that car. Those E&Js were supplied to a lot of different car maufacturers and were also available as aftermarket items. To try and say they are for a particular vehicle is difficult.

According to Bruce McCalley's book For the 1912, the correct lamps would be the square E&J but should be marked Pat 1908. John Brown 100s were also fitted to 1912s.

Terry

[Terry Bond]

Your lamps "could" have been for an earlier Ford car. Some of the 1909's used the flair front E&J marked Pat Pend. Most likely though, since your car was an older restoration, they were some lamps that just happened to do the job on that car. Those E&Js were supplied to a lot of different car maufacturers and were also available as aftermarket items. To try and say they are for a particular vehicle is difficult.

According to Bruce McCalley's book For the 1912, the correct lamps would be the square E&J but should be marked Pat 1908. John Brown 100s were also fitted to 1912s.

Terry