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    '65 GS with fresh paint

    in Buick Riviera

    Posted

    OK, OK, another push to the top, and a little push for you to get it DONE SON!!!!

    I want to see this puppy together.:)

    No progress since my last post. Car still sitting in storage. Planning to see it this weekend to assess what to do next. Just been focusing on the Harley

    Hello and any reason not to buy this?

    in Buick Riviera

    Posted

    The silver/silver is one of my favorite color combos. I think the price is high and I wouldn't want to deal with the 63's complex A/C system; however, the car looks like it has potential if you want to put the money into a new interior and getting the motor sorted. Looks like a good project if the price is right.

    Need the experts opinion on the body of this 65 GS

    in Buick Riviera

    Posted

    That's a $500 car and that's just because there's an LX block, dash emblem and if you're lucky there's a posi. I'll keep saying this: The '65 GS Package is an option, not a separate model. Dont pay good money for a bad body just becuase it's a GS. Buy it as a parts car or wait for the right vehicle that complete. You gonna spend the money anyway and the cheaper route it to get a car that done or near done. If you are inclined to rebuild the car, I wouldn't worry about the numbers not matching so long at it have the correct code block.

    Does it have the posi rear end?

    I'd walk away from this car just becuase of the body. It's not a disaster, just a money pit to get it right. You're better off finding a car that's put together better.

    SEAT DYE

    in Buick Riviera

    Posted

    Anyone ever try to dye thier interior? I'm wondering if it would last. I have a 65 with a dark green interior. That really limits the choices of exterior colors. The vinyl is in really good shape so I don't want to spend the money on a new interior.

    Thanks

    Raul

    First, decide on a color. There are several colors that you could paint the car:

    #1. Verde Green

    #2. Seafoam Green

    #3. There's a yellow for '65, but I forget the name and it looks sharp with the green vinyl

    #4. Black would probably work too but, I've never seen it.

    #5. White

    When you cange interior colors, it's a big job to disassemble the dash, door panels, recover the package tray, new carpet, headliner. By the time , you go through all of that work to do a quality color change you e will be better off replacing the seat covers.

    My suggestion: Live with the green vinyl or redo the entire interior the right way.

    '65 GS with fresh paint

    in Buick Riviera

    Posted · Edited by Patrick91914 (see edit history)

    Wow Patrick, 15 years. And I thought I took long on building my Factory Five Cobra Replica. It took me five years, enjoyed it for about a year and 1k miles, and just sold it last month. Here's a pic.

    Built it from scratch myself. did everything with the exception of the paint.

    I also restored a 72 Vette in the late 90's prior to the Cobra.

    When i bought the car I was a starving student. When I finished college and started working I didn't have much time. When I got laid-off, I had no money. Now I'm working and traveling, so back to having no time. That 15 years goes fast

    '65 GS with fresh paint

    in Buick Riviera

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    I'm trying to get back to it but have been travelling for work. I live in Phoenix but work in San Diego where the car is in storage. I just need to assemble the car and start driving it. The stainless has been polished. All the chrome has been redone. Interior wood has been replaced. The last item I need to buy is the correct trunk material which I'll probably do as soon as the mood hits me.

    Hello ! Newb Nick here ! 65 Riv

    in Buick Riviera

    Posted

    Just got back from my other garage and the Riv is matching numbers !

    5H931732 on the block and also the title.

    there is also a plaque in the car below the radio that says "built for the Van Dusans".

    Nice stuff !

    But what designates it as a true Dual 4 barrel non-GS ?

    Matching numbers on a non-GS with LX-coded engine block.

    Most desirable colors on a 65 Riv

    in Buick Riviera

    Posted · Edited by Patrick91914 (see edit history)

    Won't changing the color affect the car's value. I'm not too sure how it works in the Riv world, but in the Corvette world if your Body ID tag has different paint and trim numbers than what's on the car, it greatly affects the value. Most corvette buyer's would prefer it to be original with a less desirable color, than not original but with a desirable color.

    Since I'm looking at purchasing a GS, and planning on restoring it to top shape, I want to maintains the car's value and appeal as much as possible.

    To me (and I suspect many others here), a color change so long as it's correct for a '65 won't affect a car's value. What more important is how well the car presents itself and how well it's optioned. My car was originally Sahara mist over tan vinyl--a combo that I do not care for. Today, it's Turquouse Mist over Black cloth. Yes, it was a pain in the tail changing the color, because I disassembled the enitre car including the interior, but now it's a color that I enjoy.

    My car is not numbers matching, but it does have an LX-coded motor. That's what's important. After almost 50 years, there's gonna be cars that don't have a numbers matching block. The most imprtant feature of a car is that you start with a solid foundation. I know my car's history going back over 20 years and I know and trust the guy I bought it from who had it for quite some time and I believe he bought the car from another member.

    Bottom line, don't buy junk.

    Earliest Documented 1965 Riviera

    in Buick Riviera

    Posted · Edited by Patrick91914 (see edit history)

    I maintain the 1965 Riviera GS Registry. I also try to capture non-GS cars as well. You say that your VIN, #118 is low, but I'm not clear what that number represents. The lowest number GS I've recorded is 494475H905960 built 1st week of November 1964. Are you saying that your car's VIN is 494475H900118?

    Post your data plate info so we can see.

    See Registry contact info below in my signature.

    Hi

    My father and I have recently finished a refurb on our 3rd 65 Rivi. It is a nicely optioned red car with deluxe interior and some nice options. I noticed that the Vin is very low... #118. Is there a registry of cars? I'd like to know if there are any lower serials than mine still around?

    Most desirable colors on a 65 Riv

    in Buick Riviera

    Posted

    What are the most desirable colors on the 65? Which colors typically have the highest re-sale value?

    How about the least desirable?

    Rob.

    The most desireable color is the one that you most desire. For me it's a tie between Turquoise Mist over black cloth, Astro Blue over blue cloth, Seafoam Green over green cloth, Black over black cloth and Flame Red over black cloth (all with vinyl tops, of course)

    If you buy a car and dont like the color, then change it.

    Where is the ID tag on a Sup Tur TH 400 tranny

    in Buick Riviera

    Posted · Edited by Patrick91914 (see edit history)

    Check the right side of the transmission. Towards the front and up. You will see the tag.

    Look near the vacuum modulator. You'll see a turquoise and silver tag with a "BS" or "BT" code with date stamp below.

    Since I'm on the hunt for a 65 GS, I'd like to know where to find the tag. Rob.

    Be a little patient and you can buy mine: http://forums.aaca.org/f177/65-gs-fresh-paint-279326.html

    LX Code 425 vs MW code 425

    in Buick Riviera

    Posted · Edited by Patrick91914 (see edit history)

    I totally agree with you on the "too good to be true thing". Which is why I really researched what to look for on these cars, and I had somebody go out and look at all the numbers on the car. I was skeptical.

    The dual quad setup is correct, so the value in that car IMHO, is most likely what a non running dual quad set-up would sell for. What about $750 or so? Maybe a tad more.

    I agree with you on the rust issue. It looks rough at best, and did you see the snow tires on it? I was most likely planning on buying this car just for the running gear, as the body is mostly junk.

    A dual-quad set-up (air clearner, correct carbs, linkage, manifold, kickdown bracket, etc) goes for about $1500 and up depending upon condition. That's the value in this car along with the rear end, headlight motor, headlight bezels (if they're still there). . .the car's value as a GS (if it is) is gone simply becuase of the rusty carcass. The seats are crap needing new covers and need to be reubilt.

    Anybody who has ever put together a '65 Riv GS knows that it's an expensive process. This is not the car to mortgage your house over.

    LX Code 425 vs MW code 425

    in Buick Riviera

    Posted

    Is there any real difference between these two longblocks? Obviously I realize that the LX engine had the dual quad setup, and the MW did not, but is there any real difference in anything else other than the dual quad intake, carbs, ect...

    I had a guy look at this car for me today, and as it turns out, it had a MW coded engine block, and not the proper LX. From my research, it appears that the MW 425 was the base 425 in a 66 Riv. Is this correct? It's too bad, as it had the proper coded carbs and rear end on it. He was not able to get to the transmission to check for the BS tag, however. I was going to be able to buy this car for a pretty good price, but with it not having the LX engine, I got my deposit back, and walked away. The seller was understanding, and apologetic. I honestly don't think he was trying to scam anyone, he just honestly didn't know too much about these cars.

    Here is the car I was looking at. Some of you may have seen it for sale.

    It's on Craig's List in St. Louis now. I live in Miami, FL

    Buick : Riviera - eBay (item 200537011075 end time Oct-31-10 20:09:29 PDT)

    If you were looking for a GS, then you were right to have walked away. I'm not convinced that the car is a GS not becuase it doesn't have the LX motor (which could have been replaced over the years), but becuase glove box plate reads "Riviera by Buick" when it should read "Riviera Gran Sport." For someone trying to clone a GS that could be one of the hardest parts to find.

    Also, if this is a number matching car, then it's not a GS. I'd bet a paycheck that it doesn't have the correct tranny.

    Further this car is a rust bucket not worth the investment, IMHO.

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