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  1. 2 hours ago, TAKerry said:

    Seeing a big Packard, Lincoln, Cadillac, Pierce Arrow, Auburn, (purposely excluding Duesenberg as I think it was above and beyond then much as it is today) at any number of car shows today, many owned by the 'common man', one doesnt appreciate that when these cars were new how special they really were. By common man I am referring to someone that may have inherited one, bought one in 1960 when they were affordable, or found a pile of scrap and rebuilt it. These type of people would have had very little chance of owning something like this when they were new. 

    I own a Piece Arrow that was purchased by my grandfather in the 60's.

    He bought it for many reasons, one of them being that he knew how special these cars were when he was a kid and he could afford a thirty something year old super luxury car.  But, if you put the price he paid for the Pierce Arrow into context, he spent about as much as a new car cost back then.

    One of my uncles has the original, hand written Bill of Sale for the purchase.

    My father and uncles also owned pre-war cars so he was inclined to buy the Pierce so they would each have old cars of their own.

    I definitely know how special a Pierce Arrow is, I've been around that car my entire life and I've crawled all over and under that car over the years.

    Working on that car and comparing it to other cars of the era, the difference becomes very apparent.

    Just having the Pierce Arrow and the Rickenbacker side by side it is very evident which one was a super luxury car and which one was a middle of the line car.

    I also realize there were tremendous strides in auto technology in just the short 3 year difference between the two cars, but even 1926 PA Series 81 would blow away the Rickenbacker in overall quality and style.

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  2. It is not the liquid form of gasoline that burns, it is the vapor.

    So I am puzzled as to why a transporter would want a tiny amount of fuel in the tank and leave all that space for more combustible vapor.

    I know with more fuel in the tank there is more fuel for a fire should the tank rupture or leak, but if the tank is sound, there is less chance of fire with a full tank than an almost empty one.

    Spilled gasoline ignites because the gasoline immediately starts to evaporate, albeit must slower with modern fuels, and the vapor is what catches fire.

    Enclosed trailers should have some sort of passive ventilation system to help prevent the buildup of gasoline vapor inside the trailer while under way, but I know almost none do.

     

    HazMat training teaches this, many years ago I went through 80 hours of HazMat training and this type of thing was discussed at length.

     

    I know, I know, a can of worms just got opened and tossed into the discussion.

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  3. 40 minutes ago, timecapsule said:

    Olsons's picture of the same gasket set show that strip of rubber without any holes.

    I saw the picture had the one with no holes.

    But did you call them?

    If they have multiple gasket sets they may not post pictures of each one, just the most common one.

    They are extremely helpful on the phone and I'm sure they would make sure you get the correct gasket for your application. 

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  4. @BobinVirginia if you're serious about acquiring a Pierce Arrow, I suggest you join the PAS and let your intentions be known to the members.

    They will beat the bushes looking for the car you want and any pieces you would need for your newly acquired Pierce.

    Greg Long is another Series 80 expert that is a member of the PAS, he does not frequent this board that I know of.

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  5. @BobinVirginia Good to hear you had a great time at the PAS meet.

    You would be very hard pressed to find a better group of folks than those in the PAS.

    On top of all the great people in the PAS, you cannot find a finer or more reasonably priced full Classic than a Pierce Arrow.

    They are amazingly nice driving cars.

     

    It's been far too long since I have attended a PAS meet but I intend to rectify that next year.

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  6. Using two gallons of oil in 1,000 miles is quite a lot.

    Motor oil back then was nowhere near as good as it is today and I'm guessing the car didn't have an air cleaner, or one that mainly just blocked larger stones, so the engine had to be tired 12 years after being put into service.

     

    Thankfully, my never rebuilt '29 Pierce Arrow doesn't use anywhere near that amount of oil for the same distance traveled.

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  7. As an alternative, you could fund an old school locksmith that has been around for decades and see if they can cut you a key if you take them the lock assembly. 

    I did this with the door handle for my Pierce Arrow.

    Took him the handle and he found a blank that fit then cut a key that worked.

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  8. I don't think it has a tailgate, looks like body filler cracks from where the deck lid was grafted in.

     

    Reminds me of the Audi truck Matt Harwood had for awhile.

  9. It is truly amazing that people can be such scumbags.

    Anyone caught pilfering items at an antique car swap meet should be dealt with by the vendors before being handed over to the police.

    And, other attendees should alert a vendor should they witness a thief stealing an item. 

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  10. 8 hours ago, TAKerry said:

    I was wondering why he made the comment about leaving the window up vs. down now I understand!

    By coincidence I talked to a guy at a show that had an early MG, he said he had a radiator cap with some kind of special ornament stolen at a show!  I cant imagine the gull it takes to do something like that. No matter how long or hard I have been looking for a part I would never even dream of the idea of pilfering it off a car at a show. Or anywhere else for that matter (Unless its a junkyard).

    Back in the 70's, on a tour with the Roaring 20's Car Club, my dad had the gas cap stolen off his Rickenbacker while parked at a restaurant.

    The cars were even parked right along the windows we were seated at.

    We have never seen another for sale and the few Rickenbackers we have seen have a plain cap, not the one with the Hat in the Ring emblem.

     

    During the 2006 PAS meeting in Oregon, one of the cars on tour had the Archer mascot swiped while parked on the main street of a small town.

    The archer on my Pierce has a chain attached to it to help thwart theft.

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