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Truly breathtaking motorcar brad. Thanks for the photos, hope the Buick finds a good home Stephen

Brad can you post a couple photos?

OK 8 Ball The attached link will take you to a good photo of an 08 Olds. http://images.nypl.org/?id=482205&t=w The rear seat the rear door, the angle of the steering wheel and most of all the rear fender do not match-up. I still believe it's a McLaughlin 1910-1912 minus the top apparatus (sans top makes for a less cluttered studio shot) Stephen

Suggest you check out http://www.durantcars.com/catalogs/star/index.shtml also it might be worth posting an inquiry on the durant club webform http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/durant/ Good luck Stephen

Melissa The notation "Canada" leads me to assume that the family photo may have been taken in Canada. Based on that its my guess that the car in question is a 1912 Mclaughlin Buick. Not sure what model, but you can find a pretty good shot of the same side of a 12 McLaughlin on the City of Toronto web site http://gencat.eloquent-systems.com/webcat/systems/toronto.arch/resource/fo1244/f1244_it3195.jpg From what I can see it matches pretty well except the acetelene tanks in your photo appear to be missing in the Archival photo, however they might be hiding under that spare! Perhaps I am wrong but hopefully this will get the discussion going. Stephen

Definitely a sterling early 20s vintage, see http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/goudy/oberheide_coal_1920s_sterling.jpg for a vintage shot. The truck has the stylized S in the side of the rad and identical rad supports, and same script on rad face. As per the clue "home State" they were manufactured in Wisconsin which is Brad's "Home State". Stephen

Evan My suggestion is that you contact the publishers of pre-war car mag (an online zine). You can check it out at http://www.prewarcar.com/. They often run a mystery column and usually have great success (and fun) identifying photos of oddball European motor cars which have been submitted to them .... something many of us here in North America (with a few exceptions of course) are rather poor at. Stephen

Hello South If you are looking for vintage illustrations and photos of 20s Marmons I recommend that you go to ebay.com right now and type "Marmon ad" into the search box . Quite a few vintage Marmon ads are posted for sale and in most cases you can preview them. Also check out vintage paper sellers such as http://shop.vendio.com/vintageads4u and http://paperboynews.com/. In addition (just in case you haven't discovered it yet) there is a Marmon Club web site at http://www.marmonclub.com/ Hope this helps Stephen

I agree. Thanks for this 1937hd45. I advised the owner (of the photo). I suspect that he was a bit disappointed at the Thomas Flyer ID as he was hoping to have uncovered a photo of a home-grown Saskatchewan Car. Stephen

The attached photo was taken in Kamsack Saskatchewan sometime in the early teens. The front fenders point to a pre 1910 build date. The owner of the photo believes the car may be a "standard" built in Moose Jaw Sask. Messing around with the picture in photo shop I did notice that there appears to be three embossed letters accross the top of the rad however due to the quality of the photo this could simply be a visual disturbance. Opinions (and evidence) on who built this vehicle and when would be welcomed. Thanks Stephen

There just happens to be a well restored 1919 Dodge Touring on e-bay right now http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Dod...spagenameZWDVW. Looks very much like your photo however the number of clincher lugs does not match up. Perhaps those more familiar with turn of the century tire technology can explain whether that is a material difference or not. Stephen

If it is an Apperson it's a rare photo. Not much on the web showing what they looked like pre 1915. Too bad we can't just zoom in on that rad badge and get a difinitive answer. Definitely an Apperson jack-rabbit logo on the rad but not sure if it was added to the car because it looked "cool". Apperson lost the brass style in around 1915 ( see http://www.paperboynews.com/inventorydetail.asp?number=010931 ) so the subject car has to be a 12 to 14, if indeed it is an Apperson. For comparison You can find a photo of a 12 Apperson at http://cgi.ebay.com/59-Detroit-MI-Charli...bayphotohosting Body is a pretty good match but the cowl is not quite identical and those marker lamps have gone electric, suggesting that it is in fact a 1914 model? Stephen

Did you know, Franklin bodies were all aluminum until 1929. Not sure if these are Franklin but I bet the folks at the HH Franklin Club could tell you. http://www.franklincar.org/ Stephen

Looks like Oxnard is right. Check out the factory photo of the 1919 H50 Buick at http://cgi.ebay.com/1919-Buick-Model-50-...1QQcmdZViewItem All seems to match up except the pinstriping on the hood, and that spare rim. Looks like someone rear ended it! Stephen

Welcome Fletch Calling all peerless experts! The car in question looks a lot like a 1916-1920 Peerless limo. Everything I can see ( there is some stuff that just is not discernable like the door shape) matches up except the side hood lovers ( too few) perhaps a Peerless expert is lurking and can tell us if Peerless produced any models with louvers matching those on this car. BTW for comparison see http://peerlessmotorcar.com/images/Limo1920.jpg Stephen

I think Manuel is right, it does look like a hupp, 1914 or 1915 model K I'd wager.. For comparison check out http://cgi.ebay.com/HUPMOBILE-CAR-AD-191...bayphotohosting Stephen

Pretty sure that the car is 1930 F-30. 28s and 29s did not have the raised trim edge between the top of the hood and the windshield on the side of the cowl. For comparison purposes a 1928 olds sedan ad can be viewed at: http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/vi/vintageads4u/Oldsmobile31928CG.jpg . For a 1929 Olds have a look at: http://home.vicnet.net.au/~oldsclub/Graphics/membcars/29full.JPG Finally for a restored 1930 F-30 four door see http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Oldsmobile/1930_oldsmobile_model_f-30_chicago_04_dv_02.jpg The fact that the mystery car is missing that round olds badge on the headlight bar is of some concern (definitely a feature added after 28) but based on the evidence above I suspect that it was a removable trim part and that it has simply gone missing from the mystery car during its "retirement" If psatchwill has access to the car he should be able to acertain whether there are any vacant mounting holes in the centre of the bar. Then again, if he had access to the car he could just check the VIN and solve the mystery right there and then.. Stephen

The third car from the right in the first photo bears more than a passing resemblance to a 20s Marmon touring car. Couldn't find a good contemporary shot for comparison purposes but check out http://www.marmonclub.com/ to get a feel for the Marmon style. BTW The Cole looks similar also but the front fenders and inner front fender skins don't match up and the rad is too angular on the edge Stephen

Hello Jim You might want to check-out Pre-War Car Mag's parts for sale section at http://www.prewarcar.com/parts/search.php?pc=s&s=p Although they currently do not have any LOCO ignition switches listed they do have a couple gauges. Posted items seem to change quickly so keep checking. Stephen

You pre 20s loco fans may be interested in the attached link ( unfortunately no dash pis though) http://www.prewarcar.com/read_article.asp?ID=1314 Stephen

Hello I do happen to have a photo of the dash of a 16 locomobile 38 or 48 ( not sure which) Hope it helps. Stephen

Dang! Looks like one of them consarned 1913 Overland Model 69 motor cars . Seriously. Compare it with the photo at http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/wokr/gallery/o_10.htm, The cars share door shape, large external door hinges, and that crazy bent brace windscreen support with the round do-dad thing which I assume has something to do with adjusting the angle. Stephen

This one has been gnawing at me since it was posted, I knew I had seen a photo of one of these cars sometime or other but could not place it. Finally after following many false leads I think I have figured it out. That's a 1920 Oldsmobile "Thoroughbred 7-passenger touring", like other 46s it, was motivated by the "heavy" V-8 from Northway. An ad for the 1920 model can be found at http://cgi.ebay.com/1920-Olds-Oldsmobile...1QQcmdZViewItem . A clear photo of the 1921 model can be seen at http://www.oldsmobile.com/olds/enthusiasts/zoom262c.html . That shots shows the hard to place slanted hood vents, and, new for 21, wire wheels. Stephen

According to the GM link provided in my post 'Model F's' did not come with a standard windshield or top but they could be purchased as options. The McLaughlin-Buick's top differed from that of U.S.-built Buicks by being fully lined -- and its optional 'Ideal Glass Front,' with mahogany wood frame and fold-out upper half, was unique to McLaughlin. Should also mention that I have seen photos of some Buick's of this vintage with "Bills" on the front fenders, but most without. I am starting to think that they too were factory options. BTW One thing that does not match up is the rear door handle I just noticed that the McLaughlin has a rear door handle at the rear of the door ( conventional opening) and it looks to be a lever or tee handle. . I have looked at a number of model F photos on line and both Buicks and McLaughlin Buicks almost always seem to have a handle at the rear. The Photo posted above , however, shows a bale handle at the front. Some additional searching has however revealed that the Bale at the front did appear on some Buicks of this vintage. Check out the attached link, it has a close up that conclusively proves that.Question is is the e-bay Buick a model F http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-10-photo-postca...bayphotohosting I guess that in 1909-1910 Buick let you decide whether you wanted front or rear opening rear doors Stephen

Hello Before I get to the main point of this post my thanks to Peter for creating this form. Long overdue and VERY helpful! Now down to business. I have a strong suspicion that the motor car posted first in this particular thread is a 1909 McLaughlin-Buick Model F built in Oshawa Ontario Canada. Those who want to compare can find a good current photo of the 1908 model F at http://www.gmcanada.com/inm/gmcanada/english/about/OverviewHist/model_f_spec.html while a contemporary shot can be found at http://www.canadianheritage.org/reproductions/20512.htm From what I can tell the difference between 1908 and 09 is primarily the windshield frame. A photo of the 1909 can be found at http://www.mbautomuseum.com/Tour/McLaughlin-buick%201909.htm What do you think folks wright or wrong? Happy Motoring Stephen