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June 3, 2014

Photos of engine & interior

June 2, 2014

The top folds down at the back behind the rear seat.

The photos with the top apparently down were taken before the top was made & installed.

Photos of interior & engine

June 1, 2014

For Sale - Restored 1923 Paige, Model 6-70, 7 passenger phaeton, 131" wheel base.

Dual side mounts, Waltham dash clock, rear mounted trunk, side curtains & rare running board trunks.

AACA Senior in 2012. Ready to show and tour.

$64,900, can deliver to Fall Hershey Meet in October.

Contact Joe @ 513 779-2600 - Cincinnati, Oh.

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June 1, 2014

For Sale - Restored 1923 Paige, Model 6-70, 7 passenger phaeton, 131" wheel base.

Dual side mounts, Waltham dash clock, rear mounted trunk, side curtains & rare running board trunks.

AACA Senior in 2012. Ready to show and tour.

$64,900, can deliver to Fall Hershey Meet in October.

Contact Joe @ 513 779-2600 - Cincinnati, Oh.

Photos of interior & engine in later post

March 26, 2014

Would anyone like to estimate the value and asking price on an HPOF status car in a Soft Market? The owner has already set his asking price. He is a former long time AACA & Ohio Region Member.

It is a 1929 Packard model 626 4Door sedan, dual side mounts, solid disc wheels, trunk. 70,000 Low mileage car, interior and exterior condition 8 on a scale of 10 per the owner. It can be driven any where with new tires.. Bumpers have been chromed and wheels painted. Car was purchased 35 years ago when it had 7,500 miles and always garaged. The owner is in FL and plans to post it for sale when he comes north in May.

March 19, 2014

Have you ever heard of the "Worlds Longest Garage Sale"?

I goes the 690 miles between Addison, MI and Gadsden, AL down HWY 127.

You can start and stop any where and travel as far as you want daily.

Motels can be difficult on 127 but there are others available on nearby highways & towns.

On a lark I covered about 50 miles one day and went home.

If you are not into garage sales, this is to be avoided.

You must deal with vehicles driving 50 MPH and people running across the street for the other sale.

You will find a lot of junk and some very interesting items.

It runs Thursday to Sunday in August 7th thru the 10th.

To get information, do a google search on WORLDS LONGEST YARD SALE.

It is not Route 66 but you could cover it in the 4 days plus 2 days each way to your home.

The trip I want to take is the Natchez Trace from Natchez MI to Nashville TN

It is a 440 mile 2 lane road restricted to no trucks.

The biggest problems are all food, gas, and motels are off the parkway & you will deal with bicycles.

With luck, it is on my 2015 bucket list.

Best of everything on Route 66 but keep in mind, each state will be 300 to 400 miles across.

March 13, 2014

Get an insulated door. An uninsulated door is cheaper but it is like having single pane glass windows in your house.

The weight of an insulated alumium door is handled by heavy duty springs and you will be able to use any size door opener.

You can get a door opener from 1/4 to 1 horse. I buy 1/2 or 3/4 horse unit on a 16 by 7 foot door.

Just be aware the springs will fail based on the number of times the door is opened.

Both doors use the spring that goes above the door opening and use a twist concept to handle the door weight.

Monday of this week, a spring broke on a door 10 years after the last replacement.

This house garage door is opened and closed 6 to 10 times a day.

The door company charged $198 to replace both springs.

As of January 1 2014 they now provide a life time warranty on the springs but like the old Midas Muffler, there is no warranty on labor.

They are gambling we will move before a spring breaks.

I am not sure I have the best setup but it works for me in southern OHIO.

March 7, 2014

GM built a limited number of 1983 Corvettes delivered to plants the made parts. Inland Plant in Dayton built the fiberglass rear spring and the rubber around the windows & doors. When they were finished with the cars, it was recommended to donate that car to the local joint vocational school. It didn't happen because of the potential libality should a car have an accident on the road. Additionally, the 1983 corvette was never certified for emissions, etc. The cars were all crushed. This is according to my next door neighboor who was the manager of R & D.

February 20, 2014

The setup is done after 4:00 Wednesday when they open the swap area gates. The vendors line up starting about noon and deal out of their trucks & trailers. By noon Friday, many of the vendors are packing up. There are very few, if any, post WW II items.

February 20, 2014

Why insure it as an antique?

If you insure a $15,000 car, the price is about 600 to 800 for 1 year for a modern car with unlimited milage.

An antique will be about $125 a year with a set of restrictions including 1,000 mile limit per year. You are limited to no driving only in special events.

If you drive it for 2 months, the insurance will be prorated to somewhere between 2 and 3 months charges when you cancel the policy.

Normally, a modern car insurance amount is calculated using the car make, model and condition using a insurance price book.

When you get into a vehicle not in the book, they are lost.

Have you tried "J.C. Taylor" or "Hagerty Ins"? just do a google search on "antique automobile insurance" and you will get several options.

Also they may want to see the car or photos showing its condition.

If I am leading you in the wrong direction, with any luck, one or more members will jump on this and correct me.

February 17, 2014

Yes, it is the same car/trailer combination. The car is in nice condition but the trailer gets most of the attention.

The county historical invited me to display the car at the Wright Brothers home, Hawthorn Hill, they built after the invented the air plane. It during their annual fund raiser tours of the home. In reality, Orval Wright drove a Franklin.

Five & 1/2 years ago the car was photographed at a local car show & I was contacted for permission to submit them to Hemmings. A couple of months later I was contacted about a time and location to take the photos in the article. There was only a chance they would put publish the photos & article. About three years ago I decided they would not publish the article.

If I have offended anyone with the title line or comments, my defense is is a case of CABIN FEVER. The snow was coming down heavy and I just lost it. Actually the car is at a shop getting new brake shoes. At 40,000 miles the rear set were almost to the rivets and the front were about 30% left. I am inclined to believe the front had been replaced before I purchased it at 23,000 miles.

February 14, 2014

Welcome to the AACA. The club mission statement below does not require a member to own an antique car. We also do not require you to tour in an antique car. In a nut shell the only requirement to be a member is AN INTEREST IN ANTIQUE CARS. I joined the AACA a dozen years ago and one existing member only drove his modern car to the local chapter and region tours for the 7 years. They now drive a 75 car and enjoy it while he does something with the 3 non running antiques.

In most states, if you have a 25 year old car and license it as an antique, you have restrictions to live by. In Ohio you can not drive over 1,000 miles or so, you can only drive to shows, organized tours, to a garage. You cn not drive it as a daily driver, you can not drive it to work, grocery store, shopping, etc. In our state a 15,000 car antique can be inured for about $115 with antique plates. If you put regular plates on to avoid the restrictions, the insurance will be in the range of $500 to $600 or so.

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February 14, 2014

I just went out to the garage for a project item and my car is gone. I went in to see if there were any clues and if found a hand written note. It said:

"I have had enough of this cold weather and will be spending the rest of the winter in south Florida.

When the weather is better I will be back about the first of April.

I had hoped we would go down together and I refuse to spend any more time in OHIO.

Best of wishes till then.

Huppy Hupmobile

Actually, I can't blame him for refusing to stay here but if you should see him, say hello & please let me know.

He likes to visit friends in the the Sarasota and Naples area but will also go over to Ft Lauderdale.

Just 2 weeks ago told him the weather was much worse elsewhere and at least he is dry.

February 3, 2014

IF your mechanical valves are not closing all the way, The engine will start fine and run for a while but loose power and die when the engine slows down like on an exit ramp. My initial fix was to increase the idle. What happens is the valve stem gets hot and expands leaving the valve open when it should closed. Check the compression on all 12 cylendars for a low number both when the engine is cold & again after 15 minutes. I had the problem and had a shop do an "ENGINE CHECK" to identify if the leakage was in the intake, exhaust valve, or ring is leaking. On a 6 cyl, I didn't have a real problem until the 2nd cyl was leaking. Readjusting the exhaust valves fixed the problem.

January 28, 2014

Are you a member of the Mullins Owners Club?

You can reach them at;

P.O. Box 387

Hardy, AR 72542

Phone: 870 710-2886

The dues are $17.00 from July to June.

Wilsonce@aol.com

There will be ads for original and reproduction fiberglass trailers as well as parts and body panels.

January 26, 2014

In Ohio your insurance is based on how you license your car. If you license it as a collector, it must be 25 years old and you are restricted in how you use the car. You can only use it for a collector's vehicle used in participation in club activities, exhibitions, tours, parades, but NOT for general transportation. Going to work, the store, a friends house are restricted by rules of Ohio. The insurance company usually goes by the restrictions plus limits of driving less than 1,000 miles a year. For this your insurance on a $15,000 car is about $120 car.

When you title any car in Ohio as a regular license, you must renew you license every year but you are not restricted to usage or how much you drive it. Heads up, the insurance company will not give you the collector car discount and your plate cost would be the same a a modern $15,000 valued car. In my case, the insurance will be about around $500 a year.

About 4 years ago, the local police warned a friend, he would get a ticket the next time he was going to the store & restaurant. He scrapped the antique plates and converted to regular plates.

January 14, 2014

Please measure you rear hubcap (grease cap) for the number of threads per inch and the width of the opening.

You should come up with a measurement of 16 inches per inch and the width of the opening.

The width in important and multiple car makes used various sizes like; 2 1/8 or 2 1/4 or 2 1/5 or 2 5/8 or 2 9/16 etc.

I believe the one I have is a 2 5/8 and is too big for my Hupmobile with 2 1/2.

January 12, 2014

I have seen very few 5th wheel enclosed trailers used to transport vehicles. Many full time campers are using, gooseneck, 5th wheels but they always ues a 2500/250 or larger. about 4 years ago I talked with a man selling a 3 years old F-150 due to purchasing a F-250. His camper's weight had caused axe bearing failure and the final straw was when the axle broke. Keep in mind, the total hitch weight is directly on the rear springs and axle. The 3/4 ton pickup has a heavier suspension and brakes than a 1/2 ton. If you don't use a 5th wheel unit, my personal preference is a class 3 hitch with a set of equalizer bars and an anti sway unit.

I have pulled with an open trailer and car weighing a total of 5,000 pounds with my Chevy 1500 and 5.3 engine. I always hang way back in traffic for braking reasons. Additionally, I have towed with my brother's Dodge 2500 diesel. Coming across Ohio, on I-70, there is a 4 mile steep hill going east out of Wheeling WV. Traveling at 55, I don't think the diesel engine realized it was towing anything.

My brother & I each drove our trucks, no trailer, the 450 miles to Hershey in October. While diesel cost more than gas, it also gets better mileage. Surprisingly, our total cost for each truck was almost the same. If we would have been towing trailers, he would have been getting about 21 MPG while I would have been getting only 13 and spending much more. I drive the truck less than 2,000 miles a year and elected to go with a gas engine due to it sitting most of the time. Diesel is much better for towing and I have never seen a 1/2 to with a diesel engine.

By the way, the grades in the west will be longer and higher but not as steep as on the east coast. Neither one will be an easy trip coming down, you will definitely need an heavy duty transmission. You didn't say how long it will be till you retire. Have you considered getting a used closed trailer now with idea of saving for the 2500/250 truck and 5th wheel when you retire?

January 6, 2014

Hupmobile introduced their first car in the fall of 1908 as the Model 20 with the 20 horsepower engine.

In the fall of 1910 they added the Model 32 having a more powerful 32 horsepower motor, and a second seat.

In November 1910, 3 men started a around the world sales promotion tour in a Model 32 with no top, windshield, or front doors.

It is interesting that the Hupp Motor Co, in 1910, was seeking to expand their overseas market by driving the car 46,000 miles in 14 months.

This car residences in the Crawford Museum in Cleveland in HPOF condition.

The Hupmobile Club currently has members with cars from 1909 through 1914 in the following countries.

Italy, Switzerland, France, Canada, Scotland, England, Australia, Denmark, and South Africa.

My grandfather's photo was taken in San Francisco or Los Angles in a 1907 or 1908 White Steam Car.

He was in both places between 1908 & 1909.

With CAHARTLEY's post above listing cars and American companies looking to expand.

I believe cars were definably "commonly available" early in the teens.

Early in the history of cars, companies could purchase all the parts required and just assemble the car.

January 6, 2014

A shop that does cars for display at Pebble Beach Concours is D&D Restorations located in Covington, OH. north of Dayton OH.

They are not a cheep shop but will do the work correctly when finished.

Check out their web page.

Google maps says it is 5 hours from Peoria.

http://ddclassic.com/index.html

January 2, 2014

Don't write off your car being judged. There are 3 separate classes to judge a car.

The biggest class is for cars judged against the condition as it left the dealer's showroom "JUDGING". Most are restored and a few are very low mile cars.

The second class are un restored vehicles "HPOF". These usually have not been modified such as painted, different motor, interior. The vehicle is original, including tears in the interior, pealing paint, etc. These vehicles are important as bench marks for people doing a restoration.

The third category is classified as drivers "DPC". This allows the owner to make safety modifications or convenience items for ease of driving.

My 1931 Hupmobile has had a partial restoration including a repaint and new interior, turn signals, modern oil filter, etc. It has been judged as a DRIVER and I have driven it 17,000 miles in the last 14 years. When you go to a meet, submitting it be judged will enhance your visit. At the AACA Meets, you will find people photographing you car for documentation of their restoration. Keep in mind, Your car is original once, once you modify it, is a restored or driver car.

December 13, 2013

Contact Loyd Young at 614 837-7832.

He is just south of Columbus OH.

He can install an overdrive unit in almost any car.

Price depends on car type.

He advertizes in the "Services Offered" section, "Overdrive" in Hemmings.

December 13, 2013

Do your civic duty and forward it to the White House as a contribution.

Then you can deduct it against your healthcare cost charges by the IRS.

November 26, 2013

Photo of Craogslist ad

Buick Charlotte.pdf

November 18, 2013

Are you looking for an original steel trailer or a reproduction fiberglass trailer?

Fiberglass trailers kits can be found on the internet, you will need to assemble and paint one.

Your best bet for an original steel trailer is to join the "Mullins Owners Club".

Send $17.00 for membership dues from July to July.

Mullins Owners Club

P.O. Box 387

Hardy AR 72542

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