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  1. Why insure it as an antique?

    If you insure a $15,000 car, the price is about 600 to 800 for 1 year for a modern car with unlimited milage.

    An antique will be about $125 a year with a set of restrictions including 1,000 mile limit per year. You are limited to no driving only in special events.

    If you drive it for 2 months, the insurance will be prorated to somewhere between 2 and 3 months charges when you cancel the policy.

    Normally, a modern car insurance amount is calculated using the car make, model and condition using a insurance price book.

    When you get into a vehicle not in the book, they are lost.

    Have you tried "J.C. Taylor" or "Hagerty Ins"? just do a google search on "antique automobile insurance" and you will get several options.

    Also they may want to see the car or photos showing its condition.

    If I am leading you in the wrong direction, with any luck, one or more members will jump on this and correct me.

  2. Yes, it is the same car/trailer combination. The car is in nice condition but the trailer gets most of the attention.


    The county historical invited me to display the car at the Wright Brothers home, Hawthorn Hill, they built after the invented the air plane. It during their annual fund raiser tours of the home. In reality, Orval Wright drove a Franklin.


    Five & 1/2 years ago the car was photographed at a local car show & I was contacted for permission to submit them to Hemmings. A couple of months later I was contacted about a time and location to take the photos in the article. There was only a chance they would put publish the photos & article. About three years ago I decided they would not publish the article.

    If I have offended anyone with the title line or comments, my defense is is a case of CABIN FEVER. The snow was coming down heavy and I just lost it. Actually the car is at a shop getting new brake shoes. At 40,000 miles the rear set were almost to the rivets and the front were about 30% left. I am inclined to believe the front had been replaced before I purchased it at 23,000 miles.

  3. Welcome to the AACA. The club mission statement below does not require a member to own an antique car. We also do not require you to tour in an antique car. In a nut shell the only requirement to be a member is AN INTEREST IN ANTIQUE CARS. I joined the AACA a dozen years ago and one existing member only drove his modern car to the local chapter and region tours for the 7 years. They now drive a 75 car and enjoy it while he does something with the 3 non running antiques.

    In most states, if you have a 25 year old car and license it as an antique, you have restrictions to live by. In Ohio you can not drive over 1,000 miles or so, you can only drive to shows, organized tours, to a garage. You cn not drive it as a daily driver, you can not drive it to work, grocery store, shopping, etc. In our state a 15,000 car antique can be inured for about $115 with antique plates. If you put regular plates on to avoid the restrictions, the insurance will be in the range of $500 to $600 or so.


    Our mission statement: America's premiere resource for the collectible vehicle community!

    Since its inception there has been something about the sight, sound, and feel of the automobile that stirs the imagination and the desire to experience the freedom of the open road. Whether it’s the clatter of the single cylinder brass era car or the heavy thumping of big block Detroit muscle cars that fuels the addiction, we are all kindred spirits. Vintage cars, trucks, buses, and motorcycles are our bond. Since 1935, AACA has had one goal: The preservation and enjoyment of automotive history of all types. From National Meets and Tours to Regional events, AACA is here to bring enthusiasts together through exciting National activities, friendship, and Antique Automobile… an award winning 100-page full color magazine.

    We’re glad you found us. Stay and “nose” around our website and forums. We have something for everyone. You don’t have to own a vehicle or know how to turn a wrench. You can be involved at any level you wish. Whether it’s joining our judging teams, doing research in our vast library, or taking the family through the excitement of a National Meet or Tour, the possibilities are endless. Also make sure you visit the world class AACA Museum here in Hershey, PA the “sweetest city on earth.”

    So, spend time with us and others sharing your passion. Join up. Its less than the price of a tank of gas and lasts all year. Then check out our Regions and Chapters to find one near you. Get behind the wheel of AACA. We know you’re going to love the ride.

  4. I just went out to the garage for a project item and my car is gone. I went in to see if there were any clues and if found a hand written note. It said:

    "I have had enough of this cold weather and will be spending the rest of the winter in south Florida.

    When the weather is better I will be back about the first of April.

    I had hoped we would go down together and I refuse to spend any more time in OHIO.

    Best of wishes till then.

    Huppy Hupmobile


    Actually, I can't blame him for refusing to stay here but if you should see him, say hello & please let me know.

    He likes to visit friends in the the Sarasota and Naples area but will also go over to Ft Lauderdale.

    Just 2 weeks ago told him the weather was much worse elsewhere and at least he is dry.


  5. IF your mechanical valves are not closing all the way, The engine will start fine and run for a while but loose power and die when the engine slows down like on an exit ramp. My initial fix was to increase the idle. What happens is the valve stem gets hot and expands leaving the valve open when it should closed. Check the compression on all 12 cylendars for a low number both when the engine is cold & again after 15 minutes. I had the problem and had a shop do an "ENGINE CHECK" to identify if the leakage was in the intake, exhaust valve, or ring is leaking. On a 6 cyl, I didn't have a real problem until the 2nd cyl was leaking. Readjusting the exhaust valves fixed the problem.

  6. In Ohio your insurance is based on how you license your car. If you license it as a collector, it must be 25 years old and you are restricted in how you use the car. You can only use it for a collector's vehicle used in participation in club activities, exhibitions, tours, parades, but NOT for general transportation. Going to work, the store, a friends house are restricted by rules of Ohio. The insurance company usually goes by the restrictions plus limits of driving less than 1,000 miles a year. For this your insurance on a $15,000 car is about $120 car.

    When you title any car in Ohio as a regular license, you must renew you license every year but you are not restricted to usage or how much you drive it. Heads up, the insurance company will not give you the collector car discount and your plate cost would be the same a a modern $15,000 valued car. In my case, the insurance will be about around $500 a year.

    About 4 years ago, the local police warned a friend, he would get a ticket the next time he was going to the store & restaurant. He scrapped the antique plates and converted to regular plates.

  7. Please measure you rear hubcap (grease cap) for the number of threads per inch and the width of the opening.

    You should come up with a measurement of 16 inches per inch and the width of the opening.

    The width in important and multiple car makes used various sizes like; 2 1/8 or 2 1/4 or 2 1/5 or 2 5/8 or 2 9/16 etc.

    I believe the one I have is a 2 5/8 and is too big for my Hupmobile with 2 1/2.

  8. I have seen very few 5th wheel enclosed trailers used to transport vehicles. Many full time campers are using, gooseneck, 5th wheels but they always ues a 2500/250 or larger. about 4 years ago I talked with a man selling a 3 years old F-150 due to purchasing a F-250. His camper's weight had caused axe bearing failure and the final straw was when the axle broke. Keep in mind, the total hitch weight is directly on the rear springs and axle. The 3/4 ton pickup has a heavier suspension and brakes than a 1/2 ton. If you don't use a 5th wheel unit, my personal preference is a class 3 hitch with a set of equalizer bars and an anti sway unit.

    I have pulled with an open trailer and car weighing a total of 5,000 pounds with my Chevy 1500 and 5.3 engine. I always hang way back in traffic for braking reasons. Additionally, I have towed with my brother's Dodge 2500 diesel. Coming across Ohio, on I-70, there is a 4 mile steep hill going east out of Wheeling WV. Traveling at 55, I don't think the diesel engine realized it was towing anything.

    My brother & I each drove our trucks, no trailer, the 450 miles to Hershey in October. While diesel cost more than gas, it also gets better mileage. Surprisingly, our total cost for each truck was almost the same. If we would have been towing trailers, he would have been getting about 21 MPG while I would have been getting only 13 and spending much more. I drive the truck less than 2,000 miles a year and elected to go with a gas engine due to it sitting most of the time. Diesel is much better for towing and I have never seen a 1/2 to with a diesel engine.

    By the way, the grades in the west will be longer and higher but not as steep as on the east coast. Neither one will be an easy trip coming down, you will definitely need an heavy duty transmission. You didn't say how long it will be till you retire. Have you considered getting a used closed trailer now with idea of saving for the 2500/250 truck and 5th wheel when you retire?

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  9. Hupmobile introduced their first car in the fall of 1908 as the Model 20 with the 20 horsepower engine.


    In the fall of 1910 they added the Model 32 having a more powerful 32 horsepower motor, and a second seat.


    In November 1910, 3 men started a around the world sales promotion tour in a Model 32 with no top, windshield, or front doors.

    It is interesting that the Hupp Motor Co, in 1910, was seeking to expand their overseas market by driving the car 46,000 miles in 14 months.

    This car residences in the Crawford Museum in Cleveland in HPOF condition.


    The Hupmobile Club currently has members with cars from 1909 through 1914 in the following countries.

    Italy, Switzerland, France, Canada, Scotland, England, Australia, Denmark, and South Africa.

    My grandfather's photo was taken in San Francisco or Los Angles in a 1907 or 1908 White Steam Car.

    He was in both places between 1908 & 1909.


    With CAHARTLEY's post above listing cars and American companies looking to expand.

    I believe cars were definably "commonly available" early in the teens.

    Early in the history of cars, companies could purchase all the parts required and just assemble the car.

  10. Don't write off your car being judged. There are 3 separate classes to judge a car.

    The biggest class is for cars judged against the condition as it left the dealer's showroom "JUDGING". Most are restored and a few are very low mile cars.

    The second class are un restored vehicles "HPOF". These usually have not been modified such as painted, different motor, interior. The vehicle is original, including tears in the interior, pealing paint, etc. These vehicles are important as bench marks for people doing a restoration.

    The third category is classified as drivers "DPC". This allows the owner to make safety modifications or convenience items for ease of driving.

    My 1931 Hupmobile has had a partial restoration including a repaint and new interior, turn signals, modern oil filter, etc. It has been judged as a DRIVER and I have driven it 17,000 miles in the last 14 years. When you go to a meet, submitting it be judged will enhance your visit. At the AACA Meets, you will find people photographing you car for documentation of their restoration. Keep in mind, Your car is original once, once you modify it, is a restored or driver

  11. Are you looking for an original steel trailer or a reproduction fiberglass trailer?

    Fiberglass trailers kits can be found on the internet, you will need to assemble and paint one.

    Your best bet for an original steel trailer is to join the "Mullins Owners Club".

    Send $17.00 for membership dues from July to July.

    Mullins Owners Club

    P.O. Box 387

    Hardy AR 72542

  12. A Run-In With A Rodent Turned This Mother Of Two Into A Millionaire!

    Product to run mice off from your vehicle. Go to the following link seen on AOL.

    This product, "Fresh Cab" can be purchased at; John Deer stores, Ace Hardware, Tru Value,, Manards, on Amazon, ebay, & Google.

    Has anyone used or heard of this?

  13. Skinned Knuckles magazines available at Hershey

    I have about 130 magazines from Sept 1983 through April 2008.

    Most years have from 3 to 10 issues and a few in the 2000 to 2007 range have all 12.

    Price will be $2.00 till Friday and then $1.00 as we will be leaving about 3:00 PM.

    First contact, first call back.

    I have friends in the red & green fields and have no idea where the magazines will be located.

    I will put them on display Wednesday morning.

    Send me a PM with your name, phone #, and the best time to contact you.

  14. Skinned Knuckles magazines available at Hershey

    I have about 130 magazines from Sept 1983 through April 2008.

    Most years have from 3 to 10 issues and a few in the 2000 to 2007 range have all 12.

    Price will be $2.00 till Friday and then $1.00 as we will be leaving about 3:00 PM.

    First contact, first call back.

    I have friends in the red & green fields and have no idea where the magazines will be located.

    I will put them on display Wednesday morning.

    Send me a PM with your name, phone #, and the best time to contact you.

  15. I have about 130 magazines from Sept 1983 through April 2008.

    Most years have from 3 to 10 issues and a few in the 2000 to 2007 range have all 12.

    Price will be $2.00 till Friday and then $1.00 as we will be leaving about 3:00 PM.

    First contact, first call back.

    I have friends in the red & green fields and have no idea where the magazines will be located.

    I will put them on display Wednesday morning.

    Send me a PM with your name, phone #, and the best time to contact you.

  16. Put it on ebay with a reserve for the minimum you want and hope for the best.

    If you are too low, the price will rise to the actual value.

    Your risk is a buyer will get it to put a Chevy V8 in it.

    Do an ebay search for 1932 Chevrolet and select all "Completed Listings".

    As of 9/30/2013 there are 3 unsold units in various states of assembly.

    The assembled car did not get above 10,000.

    I have seen very nice cars go for 16,000 to 20,000.

    Estimate the assembly hours, engine rebuild cost, paint, interior and deduct from finished value.

    The unassembled car, coupe, bid was less than $1,900.

    An assembled car cost about 1.25 or so a mile to ship, not sure what a pile of parts will run.

    You will need to keep in mind, the cost to the buyer to move everything.