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All I can tell you is that the ad says,"Dick Arlen's Duesenberg with its special body". It also says,"Dick Arlen's beautifully appointed 50-foot cruiser with twin engines". He has a $2500 schnauzer dog (1935 value) and a grand estate on Toluca Lake, Cal.
I don't know if he was in King Kong but his claim to fame was "Wings" in 1927. This silent movie won the very first academy award. It was about dogfights in WWI a role he was well suited for as he was a veteran of the Canadian Royal Air Force during that conflict.
I'm surprised Chris hasn't chimed in yet. I don't believe it's a special body but a standard Murphy with some minor updates.
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manifold is a 1926 and will not fit a1927 and up motor i also have a 1926 manifold and sv5 carb from stutzl6
Which manifold is a 1926? The intake & exhaust manifolds I posted were removed from an AA engine by me.
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Hi,
Just wondering if you still have the carburetor for sale, or any spare parts for the SV5D.
Thanks,
Eddie
Carb & intake were sold pretty quickly.
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Chris or Randy will give us the specifics but it looks like a slightly updated Murphy Conv Sedan.
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I believe this is the first Duesenberg. Chris or Randy can correct me of course. The Matags were not branded Duesenberg.
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The 1947 Limo Phaeton customs look like recent jobs to me. There are several on the link. One wonders if a 350/AT drivetrain lurks under that white paint with rollbar. Looks like the work being done on late model Cadillacs & Chrysler 300s? (That is not to say the car looks bad, though.)
I agree. Minus the roll bar it would actually look pretty good. The give away to most later custom jobs is the windshield frame. The easiest path is to use the sedan frame which most do.
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Here is a direct link.
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What transmission does the car have?
What a great car. Generally when you have to ask it's an automatic.
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Yes it is. Looks rather odd, actually. The car still exists. John Mozart owned it last I heard, and is perfectly restored. Dark blue.
It looks good in the picture! Perhaps not as good in person?
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I'm not sure what LSR stands for, but I'm sure that once it's completed, you'll find several concours that would love to have you show it. It is definitely historical. You may want to contact AACA's vice president in charge of class judging and see if he has any ideas on how it could be entered in AACA events. In my opinion, it should at least be allowed to be displayed in a certain class, even if it can't be judged.
Sorry, LSR = Land Speed Racer or straight line speed car. I'm not interested in having it judged as I'm not sure what the standard would be. Hopefully we'll be able to show as a display at some of the AACA or CCCA venues.
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Al
There used to be a race-car class in the CCCA up through the 1960s, but I believe they have dissolved that.
West, As far as I can tell, the car was not intended to be a race car. I have seen "sprint car for the street" used by both the previous owner and the builder's son so I think it was intended as a street car. My dad still believes it was supposed to be some kind of LSR. It may have started off as some sort of LSR in 1928 but was obsolete pretty quick. Hopefully I can find some shows to bring it to.
A.J.
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Hmmm, I thought I would get a rise out of someone with the Norrmalm 745. OK, I went looking for photos and here are a few Rollstons that I like. One is already on the thread I think, but now an old photo.
Does the Dual Cowl still survive?
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At that price- Duesey's must have depreciated by at least 50% in the last 10 years.
Don't forget the value of a dollar in that equation either, the dollar has dropped by about half in that time also.
Bargains everywhere!
Early open quarter limos have never brought that much. Maybe 500 at the height of the market for a nice one. Although the chassis are identical, there are huge variations in price based on a number of factors:
1. Coachwork
2. Early vs. Late
3. condition
4. originality of engine/body/chassis.
5. Pedigree
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How do you join the CCCA for $35.00? What am I missing? Am I a rube, or missing the joke. If Duesey was carted off in a Packard hearse, he wasn't the only one. Henry Ford went to his grave in a 1942 Packard. I never heard the story about the Packard hearse from Freds ride lasting until the 70's only to be destroyed. Were short sided political policies of AACA and CCCA responsible doe the distruction of this hearse?
Sorry, I just sent another club's check in and it was 35 and confused them. Given the level of the publications, 60 is still a bargain in my mind.
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Alsancle: The domain says classiccarlink with the banner saying classiccarlink with the tag line "linking the past and present" !!!
Laurie, I don't want to send your thread off on a tangent (believe me it would go there) if I elaborated more but I would have perfered collectorCarLink.com or something like that. The word "classic" is at loaded term in these parts
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Surprised that A J Duesenberg can be bought for 300k....
I'm going to start saving my pennies!
Probably a bit closer to 400k but definitely not 500k.
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I think that's a 300K - 400K car.
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I would love to have that car but it's not going to bring a million dollars.
1. Open rear quarter limo with high roof line is at the back of the pack for body style desirability.
2. Older restoration with incorrect interior and questionable paint color.
3. Sitting for many years puts it's mechanical state in doubt. If you can get a J engine rebuilt for 50k you are lucky.
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Steve, I'm a member of a dozen or so clubs and I can say the CCCA is a tremendous value for 35 bucks. Well worth joining.
Seems logical to me, Al. I wonder if most of the professional type cars are on Jr. or in non Packard-specific terms non Classic chassis.I do not think I have ever read about a Classic professional car in The Classic Car, but only get my copies here and there as I need to finally pony up the $35 to join yet another club...
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Great car but 500k is very strong money for this body style in this condition - in my humble opinion.
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Slightly different but related issue as this is the original body. My 28 Stutz started as a new chassis bought through the Stutz Dealer on Broadway in NY and was built by an unknown but profession builder from 1928-1932. This builder also completed 4 to 8 other road specials (along with a number of sprint cars). I have loads of period pictures and documentation. I would like to bring it to CCCA events, but because of some of the issues cited in previous posts, I think it would only be entered in the display class, and not for judging. If my car was simply a coach-built body by an unknown builder I would apply for full CCCA status. However, the car was substantially modified for speed and I'm not sure how you could judge it.
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My off the cuff response is that if the body is on a classic chassis (regardless of the intention of the body) then it's a Classic. If the body is intended for commercial use and is on a non-classic chassis then not a Classic.
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I think it looks great on that wheelbase.
I really like this car a lot. I was lucky enough to ride with Bill in it when he drove through to get his award at Meadowbrook that year. I think that the lines and proportions on it are very nice, and work well with the 148" wheelbase. When you look at the photos on Flickr, it makes the Darrin look cramped on the swb. This is a one off built for Williams of Shaving creme fame. -
What's the harm? How could your VIN be used nefariously? It's in nearly all new vehicles windshields. Anything bad ever come of that?
Kind of reminds me of when people blot out license plates in pictures (after driving around in public with them in plain view). I do not see any harm in providing the vin, but I'm not sure the concept will work in any event.
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Sounds like you have a coupe,probably a 5 window.You don't count the windshield. In average condition would sell for $15-25K. A 3 window is sportier and has "suicide" doors.Highly sought after, it would sell for $25-35k in average condition.
Without pictures it's tough but if it is a 5 window you can double these prices. Price guides are worthless.
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I'm confused as that manifold came off a AA. I have the engine number floating around somewhere so I can check if it was an early 27 or not.