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Having access to a 1972 Eldorado with a parade boot, the recommendation is as follows: If they absolutely MUST sit up there, then perch them on the back of the seat with as little weight as possible on the boot itself. However, having said that, the owner stated catagorically that he would not let anyone sit on his. They are relatively fragile and damn hard to fix or replace. Better to be safe than sorry in this one. For what it is worth, that is one owner's opinion. By the way, Keith, that is one extremely handsome car!! Love the red. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Rojo, I appreciate that very much, but I am not offended by his tirade. I have been berated by Peter under his own name several times in the past. He is just a sad individual who cannot operate without being abrasive. I enjoy this forum because aside from these characters, you all really talk the cars and how you enjoy them. Modified or original, V-8 or not. I wish the other forums could be like this. Well by and large the CLC is but we still have our share of 'Hartmans' The name of the game is the marque and the cars. After that its all yak. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Tinindian, I find your post a real inspiration. Do you have any pictures of your Pontiac? Its wonderful! Thank you for sharing it. I've owned my 1977 Eldorado (an antique by definition but hardly a classic...or a Classic ala' PFH).

That is a good question, Brian. I would say that such information is possible but unlikely to have been compiled since he has to register anew each time. The best way to track him is through his MAC address or IP address (MAC tracking requires tracking software...its available but I don't have any). If we could track the MAC which is what each PC has that makes it a unique identifier, we could possibly ban using that, but that would be up to Peter G as webmaster of the AACA Forum, if the software is capable of it. I thought the classic approach wass amusing. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

My only question is, an Edsel may be an antique, but is it a Classic? ;D Unfortunately there is no way to keep someone who is intent on causing problems off of the forum without instigating procedures that would greatly hamper members of the clubs and this forum. As an ex-administrator my best advice is to select the users name and IGNORE that individual. Unless you like the petty, puerile BS; if that gives you a charge then by all means let it go. Personally, as long as I am in the background, it IS rather amusing. Right now I am a moderator of the CCCA site and a member of that club. We take this PFH individual seriously and ban him when he shows up. By the way, good thread. I have a '56 car and had a '47 both had/have drum brakes. As long as the car is driven moderately and defensively, a well maintained drum system is perfectly adequate. No car, even with the sophisticated braking systems and passive restraint protections, should be driven as people drive them today. I have said many times, the best way to be safe is to rely on your driving skills not the car. And know the machine's and your own limitations. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Captain, that is one beautiful Packard you have there. I've often wondered if Alaska would be the perfect place to retire. How is the cost of living up there, aside from petrol prices of course?

Dear God in Heaven....that is FUGLY. Except, hmmmm...I think the holes make the fender. Shouldn't a Roadmaster have 4 holes? Incidentally, wouldn't 4 holes be more fitting for the Ultra, Buicks top of the line? Well either way, they make the fender in MNSHO. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

That is a nice custom...I like it. The '58 grill is interesting, although I think I agree with the general opinion that it does not fit the flow of the rest of the car. But as for the general appearance...I love it! That roof line really takes to the chopped and channeled look. Very handsome. I'd like to see the engine. I hope its the original power plant. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Oh man! I would LOVE to restore that truck!!! Sadly I cannot afford the cars I have. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> It certainly is unique. I hope someone who really wants a neat truck will buy and restore it.

That is an interesting custom, Rojo22. I would be interested in knowing if it was a superior coach build or someone else. I found a similar 1949 Cadillac modification or custom in the Cadillac Database, here , so take a look at it. You might also want to contact Yann Saunders through the Database or the CLC and share your pictures. That is a rare find. Are you going to restore it or mod it? Either way, it will be a spectacular car/truck. These were not unheard of and were often special orders. If you contact Yann, include as much info as you can including the VIN, usually the engine number, and the body tag as you did above. If it is a late model modification, that would be even more interesting!! Heck, I'm getting envious!! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

You have me on this one. According to my source, the trim was changed in '56. I will look into it and see. John Washburn may know the answer to this question. If you are a member of the Cadillac LaSalle Club, look for him in the registry. If I find out the answer to this question, I will certainly post it.

Hi smr3560, The rear axle ratio is 3.07:1 with an optional 3.36:1. These are semifloating type axles; I do not see Positraction as available in 1956. Hope that helps!

Hi there! Have you tried Kanters? They list OEM style carpeting. Also Auto-interior.com has classic Buick carpets. I found these and others when I Googled antique car carpet. I hope this has helped a little. Good luck. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

The only way I was able to do it was through the application for information with a $50.00 check! I did get my information and in a fairly timely manner but I cannot say I ever got them on the phone. There is an online version of the application on the CLC website. I hope that helps. Click here

Collusion or not...this is Capitolism at work, and at its best. There is nothing in the very least altruistic about our form of economy. Capitolism is like nature...there are lots of opportunity to make good and do a whole lot better than survive, and it can be terribly cruel (not to anthropomorphise it) in that those who cannot or will not strive, suffer. Unfettered Capitolism as espoused by the followers of Ayn Rand see this as nothing more than survival of the fittest. Since America is moving away from any form of moderate socialism to aid those who have not, cannot or will not, as a social evil and impediment to progress and fiscal success, the ranks of the poor is bound to expand. What is interesting is, given this trend 200 years ago, one would expect a burgening middle class but today that same middle class, is dwindling, rapidly. As government programs to help the poor, the aged and the disabled are cut, and cut massively, we can expect the numbers of the disposed to rise alarmingly. Social security had been haralded as the saviour of the retired in 1960, saving many from starvation and a lingering death of malnutrition and lack of affordible medical aid. We are very close to returning to that situation as any who pay attention to the news (from other than the entertainment media) can well attest. Are social controls on Capitolism natural or even desirable? What have the past 50 years demonstrated where the government became the leading agent in helping the poor to rise up or at least to survive with some dignity? There a pros and cons but overall those who believe in the Social Contract that the government, any government, holds with its society to provide for those who have not, would say overall it was a success. Capitolism was believed to have more than enough to fund it all with some left over for development. Unfettered Capitolism is more open, less controled and free of responsibility to up hold any contract other than the free and total opportunity to make a dollar multiply. It is up to the community and private funds to offer any aid to those who are rolled under before its progression. What it finally comes down to is, you want the gas, you need the gas...then you find a way to pay for it. You alter your budget and you plan for the increase. There are no quick fixes to supply and demand, and I doubt very much if there will be any long term answers to the oil problem. Calculate how much oil or gas would be saved if 75% of all Americans bought a Prius today. How much would be saved in, say a summer? Would prices go down? If you have been following the water crisis in the west, you might get a feeling for what could happen. In Aurora, CO, the population has been strictly controlled on water usage to save water. They have done so admirably. And what was the response from the utility? They raised the cost of water per unit. Why? Because the saving of water meant a sharp reduction in income to the utility, so it could not meet its requirements of maintenance and pay to workers, etc.. If we save and stop using petrolium, the response will most likely be a sharp increase in cost. If we do NOT save and preserve the current supply we are doomed to losing it sooner (it is inevitable that it is going to be used up because it is a limited commodity). The Unfettered Capitolist would say that this is the true incentive to find another means to power our society. Necessity is the Mother of Invention! And who pays for this R&D is the consumer because in order for the industry to do this inventive work, they must make a profit to pay for it, to draw the scientists to work for them and allow for innovation to occur. Face it....an increase to $3.75 a gallon is just the beginning. America is so far out of phase with the rest of the industrialized world in what she pays for petrolium, we will have to increase it a lot more just to get up to par with Europe. Its the nature of the beast. Enjoy the price as it is...because it will only go higher. Supply and demand rests on what the market will bear. Just how much Americans can afford is yet to be seen. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Dave, I doubt anyone really cares, outside the hobby. And there have been many stories that I have not seen until accidentally switching on BBC America News. Oh my! There IS a world out there! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I wonder what BMW is going to do with MG in England? I cannot imagine Rover no longer being made. But what the hell...times are changing. In retrospect I doubt it will mean any more than Nash swallowing Hudson before the end. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Its called Progress!

You won't be sorry. Its a beauty and the detail is really good, down to the vents and a/c tubes. I liked that Y-job so much that I Googled it, and bought one! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> I just had to have one!!! Harley Earl may, or may not have been as great as he is often portrayed but I think he was a man of singular vision and drive. SO yeah...I had to have one. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Oh and I found the lavender '59 convertible too! But one a month is enough. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Centurian, Norb....those are some wonderful models. I especially like the Y-job! Where did you find that? I have been recently getting more into the polystyrene models from the 50s and 60s (mostly cause I can AFFORD them <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />) but I just added to my small collection of di-cast models with the Franklin Mint's 1955 Cadillac Sixty Special (even though the brown interior is ALL WRONG - and I hate that they are made in China) cause it was so nicely done! But oh my...what a price! I have the 1959 Buick Electra 225 convertible in red and white too. But I like to make and detail my own so I can try and make them accurate. Anyway...these were wonderful shots. Thanks guys!

Oh that did help actually...it is a 1950 Cadillac series 62 sedan. The 1950 had the carry over dagmars from the late 40s, and the rear door vent window is rounded like the Sixty Special, and unlike the squared off series 61 sedan. The body looks solid, too. Hope that helps! Those were really nice cars.

This is so obvious as to be silly but what the hell....check out eBay (if you are a broker I am sure you already do daily), and the many auto trading sites online. Also check the newspapers in the area where the buyer is, to make it easy on him/her (what a concept), or in good dry areas where rust is not a problem. Do beware of sun damage however, as rubber, plastics and fabric succumb very quickly to UV radiation, dryness and heat. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Hope that helps.

I saw that writing on the wall in 1982 at Sanger Harris in Dallas where they had posted on the employee bulliten board a newspaper article written by Stanley Marcus (Of Needless Markups) that said in no indefinite terms....that workers are dispensible. They have no intrinsic value other than doing the job at the time and could be replaced as easily as any cog or battery. The bottom line is God (uh oh...Mammon rising) and if you cannot make it here, then go somewhere else where you CAN make a better profit. That worried me then...now it is economic reality as you say. Nothing kills inventiveness, and entrepenurial spirit better than a bean counter. There are no more careers in industry or business, just jobs that are transitive and fleeting. Now that is reality sadly.

While Fiats are hot little cars in the SCCA, they are parenthetically known as rolling bombs. Their engines, while well designed, are not terribly robust...especially after 30 years. I am sure others have different experiences so don't take this as a knock. Besides we (my son and I) are not exactly one of the crowd...he is now racing a 1973 MG B-GT. He took second at the Nationals in Pueblo this weekend which isn't bad for his maiden race in a new car, and in a car not generally thought to be competitive. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> As far as Bob Lutz and GM are concerned, perhaps this is just the cycle of life and death of the company. Everything has its time. The whole automobile industry is changing rapidly (if you call 20 years rapid) and GM has had its opportunities. That's life...change.

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Hi Rojo22. That would be a 1950 Cadillac from the front grill, light placement and type of 'dagmar'. I would have to see the rear more clearly to tell you whether it is a series 61, 62 or 60 special. It looks like a series 62 sedan. Thanks for the picture. Those are nice cars but I think that shell would take a lot of work to restore. Still it is worth saving if one could. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Great link, Brian. As you know I love the '59 Buicks. And speaking of Buicks, I saw a '60 the other day in white, four door with a round top (6 window) but could not see the badging. It was missing some. I still prefer the '59 as the '60s tail fins are slightly smaller and look odd. Recently I sold my '47 so I could continue the restoration on the '56. We just got the fabric samples from SMS and they are dead on!!! Talk about being excited! Oh, and I love the '56 Buicks too. Sad that GM is even considering dropping Buick. I hope not. But as my son says, it will only make the older ones more valuable! Ha! Now thats a positive attitude for ya.

You might try SMS interiors ... they may have replacements since they create their own materials. Or check on eBay. But I would check with SMS first. Good Luck!