Ed aka #4

For Sale 1909 Buick model 17 Touring body, fenders, aprons, and complete set of lamps. The original body is complete with perfect wood and solid as a rock, stripped of all upholstery in prep for restoration, complete with windshield and top sockets. Fenders and aprons are in primer and in good condition. All lamps and carbide generator are completely restored to show quality condition, impeccable. Price for the package is $8,000.00 Ed aka #4 email karened4@att.net

Older show quality restoration, dark Blue body, black fenders and chassis, and white striping. Correct original engine, transmission and rear end, Rare Arrometer water temperature gauge and winged radiator cap, clock gear shifting knob, dual wind wings, front and rear bumpers, white wall tires, Chevrolet script spare tire cover. Approx. 2000 miles on a complete engine rebuild. Extremely well restored throughout. More pictures available on request. $23,000.00 or best offer. Please make an offer. Must sell. Asking price reflects the quality of the restoration.

You are all pretty correct. Great looking car, exciting to drive and I incorrectly called it a Super Six engine........and unfortunately for those of you saving your pennies to purchase....it's SOLD! Ed

I'm assuming that your Brush coil box has been sold by now but if it isn't I'm interested in purchasing it. Ed Archer email karened4@att.net

If you're still in need of the 7 inch reflectors, I have 2 matching no mfg. name, in excellent condition. The price is $250.00. Ed aka #4

I need a bumper jack or a good description of what I'm looking for. This is for my 1956 Plymouth. Would appreciate any help. Thanks. Ed aka #4

You guys are great, a wealth of information, thanks for the info. So, if I change carburetors to a smaller bolt spacing does that mean changing the intake manifold or just make an adaptor? Jon, how do I get to your web site? You mentioned that you have "a couple of different conditions" on your web site, what does that mean? Thanks. Ed aka #4

Okay, here's a picture of our Schebler that we're looking for. This carburetor has a couple of missing parts and has been worked on by someone who had no idea what they were doing and did some butchering. The car is a 1908 Haynes Model S Ed aka #4

I need a Schebler carburetor Model RL, 1 5/8" throat, 3 1/4" between mounting studs. I'd probably settle for another brand early bronze/brass updraft with the required measurements. Thanks. Ed aka #4

Okay, I finally got pictures of the coil box. It's a Dayton. You can see the notches on the front of the box where I assume hinges were mounted, but none on the lid. Front mounted hinges make no sense so something has been altered sometime in the "life" of this car. In the bottom of this box are the low tension "boxes" and the 2 high tension coils are visible with the lid up.

Trying to get a 1908 Haynes 4 cyl. 30 HP, running well. The motor runs but only at low rpms. This is a very old restoration and I'm not sure that the ignition system that is currently in the car is original and correct. In the coil box is 4 low tension boxes and 2 high tension tremblor coils, and those 2 tremblor coils are weak at best. The coil box appears to maybe not be original to the car as it has notches in the front where there appears to have been hinges mounted, but no signs of hinge mounting on the lid. I hate spending a lot of time and effort on this system only to find out that it's not even correct for the car. Can anyone help me out with some Haynes electrical info.? Thanks. Ed aka #4

George, that's one of my favorite pictures with me on the running board and Karen just observing. And thanks for the other picture, that's one I haven't seen before. The transmission shifts real easy except for the time that you're on a hill and need to shift from 3rd to 2nd, where you have to move the handle back a bit and across the quadrant (away from the body) and then back and into 2nd, without grinding gears is really a tough one. And if you miss that shift you're stuck in 1st/low gear. The other tough one is starting out on a hill, going from 1st to 2nd is near impossible, so, if the hill is not too steep you learn to start in second slipping the cone clutch a bit and make the best of it. Otherwise you stay in low to the top of the hill! I'm still running with the original radiator core so ever few years I have to pull the radiator and have the leaks soldered up. Other than that it's just a great car. It's not running with the original make and break system and I don't have it. Some time in it's life it got lost. So I'm running Bosch magneto.

Yes Jorge, you've got the right car, it came with the winter "coupe" body, but the side lamps are missing so I'm looking for a pair like the ones in the magazine pictures. There was also a story written in the VCCA magazine, by the same guy/owner. I think all information known on that car is based on what he stated, which I believe, some is incorrect. Don't really know how much but at least some. Maybe due to lack of research, or lack of research materials available at the time of his restoration. I'm all ears and eyes at this time for anything that will help me get this car back to what it was originally/more authentic. I'll be selling off the incorrect items that we remove from the car. So far, the headlights and carbide generator. If I owned the car I would also remove the windshield but I'm not sure the current owner will agree on that, I haven't asked him yet. The runabout body has many age cracks in the painted wood body, no top came with the car and it probably should have a seat on that platform on the back. I don't get the flat rear fenders. Maybe there was a short time between 07 and 08 when Haynes made them flat before they went to the round version seen on all the 08s. At least the car got a good home. He's willing to spend the money to make it correct and he'll probably never drive it so it will remain in nice condition. The driving will be left up to me when and if he want's it to go somewhere. Chasing everything down electrically and fuel related we were able to get it running but at the moment it idles well but on acceleration during a test drive is horrible. So more carb investigating need to be done and maybe a little timing also.

Jorge, thanks so much for the details that I couldn't come up with. Still would like more but this is a lot more than I had. I haven't checked with the AACA research center yet. I'll ad a couple of photographs here of the car. Without writing a book I'll attempt to give you a some details on what I'm trying to accomplish. First off it's not my car. A friend of mine who is as far as you can get from being an antique car guy is married to Elwood Haynes great grand daughter and decided that they should own an early Haynes automobile. So they purchased one that was represented as a 1906 Model O runabout. As soon as I saw it I said "that's not a 1906 and those headlights are definitely 1909 to 12 style.) The car was discovered in nearly complete condition back probably in the late 1950s, and is now at the time of my friends purchase last year, a very nice very old restoration, that does not run but appears to be complete and runnable with some TLC. I told him that I would help correctly date the car, get it running and see if we could improve on the authenticity of all the components. The small amount of Haynes info. that I could come up with told me that it was probably a 1908 Model S runabout or Semi Racer. I realize that lights, windshield, etc. were not standard items and could be any brand from the time period but thought that we should get what Haynes would have offered if they were purchased with the car. My research indicated Atwood lamps (not conclusive) I found a pair of restored Rushmore's that look identical to the Atwood lamps available in 1907/08. So now I really should be looking for a Rushmore carbide generator. I think what's on it is a victor, and the headlights are Castle. The car is now running and I'll continue this in another email later if anyone is interested. Sorry I couldn't get the pictures to go horizontal.???

Long time in this hobby and never knew this Locomobile forum existed. Probably most of you know that I own 1906 Locomobile Model H 7 Passenger Touring #1009. We've traveled many miles in that car with very little maintenance required, just keep things lubricated and enjoy the drive. Their slogan was correct, as advertised, an absolute great car.